WEBVTT - When Do You Know You're Doing Everything Wrong?

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<v KT>Hi everybody. Good morning, Suze.

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<v Suze>It is always a good morning with you, Ms. Travis.

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<v KT>It's July 26, 2026.

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<v Suze>No it's not, no it's not!

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<v KT>Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. OK, so we pre-recorded this

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<v KT>podcast before we left for our trip.

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<v KT>To Italy, Ciao Bella!

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<v Suze>For her birthday. This is another Ask KT and Anything

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<v Suze>combined with Suze School. Now why do I say that?

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<v Suze>Because some questions require more of a detailed explanation. It's

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<v Suze>more like a teaching part.

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<v Suze>And others are just kind of answers to people's questions.

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<v Suze>So therefore we're combining them kind of together. But are

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<v Suze>you ready, KT?

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<v KT>I'm ready. So that's how I'm opening today's podcast. On

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<v KT>the Women and Money app. I got another little series

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<v KT>of questions, but this one

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<v KT>in particular, I think is really important. It says, Suze,

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<v KT>when is the last calendar day I can contribute to

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<v KT>a solo 401k?

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<v Suze>Yeah, I'm kicking myself because KT, I should have had

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<v Suze>that in the master class two weeks ago. What was

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<v Suze>I thinking?

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<v Suze>But here's what you need to get, all right. You

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<v Suze>have to open, and by the way, if you don't

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<v Suze>know what I'm talking about with a solo 401k or

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<v Suze>a SEP IRA, go back two weeks from today and

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<v Suze>listen to the master class on solo 401ks versus SEP IRAs,

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<v Suze>and you'll find out that if you're self-employed, you are

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<v Suze>crazy in most cases not to have a solo 401k. However,

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<v Suze>the last day that you can open a solo 401k,

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<v Suze>is December 31st, let's say this year, if you are

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<v Suze>gonna open up one for 2026, you have to have

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<v Suze>opened it up by December 31st, 2026. However, that doesn't

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<v Suze>mean that you have to fund it by December 31st, 2026.

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<v Suze>But here's what you need to know if you are

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<v Suze>a sole proprietor.

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<v Suze>When you open it up, and it has to be

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<v Suze>opened by December 31st, 2026 if it's for this year,

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<v Suze>you have to elect how much of your own salary

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<v Suze>deferral you are going to put in it. You don't

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<v Suze>have to do it. You just have to make that election.

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<v Suze>And you have for the actual money you have till

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<v Suze>the day that you file your taxes. So KT for

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<v Suze>2026 contributions that would be April 15th, 2027, or all

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<v Suze>the way, by the way, like we do till October 15th,

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<v Suze>2027 if you file an extension. However, here's what everybody

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<v Suze>needs to know because remember when you're self-employed,

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<v Suze>you have two ways to go. You can be a

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<v Suze>sole proprietor, right, KT? Or you could form an S corporation. OK. Now,

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<v Suze>if you're an S corporation, and you pay yourself a paycheck,

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<v Suze>a W-2, which chances are you will,

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<v Suze>then your employee contribution, your employee has to come out

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<v Suze>of that paycheck through your payroll, and that has to

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<v Suze>be done by December 31st of this year. No extension, nothing.

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<v Suze>Your employer hat or your employer contribution

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<v Suze>can still wait until you file. Now how is that

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<v Suze>for complication, KT? That was a little mini Suze School.

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<v KT>Suze, tell everyone what is the difference between an S

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<v KT>corp and a sole proprietorship.

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<v Suze>All right, so before I go to an S corp, everybody,

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<v Suze>let's just start simple.

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<v Suze>A sole proprietorship. I always want you to think of

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<v Suze>the name of something. A sole proprietorship means it is

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<v Suze>just you. So maybe you're a freelance, you consult, you

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<v Suze>sell things, and you've never filed any other special paperwork,

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<v Suze>all right? It's just you and your business, same person.

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<v Suze>The business makes $1.

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<v Suze>And that $1 is yours and it goes right in

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<v Suze>your personal tax return. Now, you may think that's just great, everybody,

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<v Suze>but you probably didn't know that on that money, on

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<v Suze>the profit, you're paying self-employment tax.

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<v Suze>That's Social Security and Medicare, a little over 15% on

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<v Suze>every dollar that you make. That's essentially how it is. So,

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<v Suze>that's a sole proprietorship, very easy. You and your business

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<v Suze>are one. But when you form an S corp,

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<v Suze>you are not one with your business. The S Corp

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<v Suze>is a separate business. It's not just you anymore, and you, everybody,

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<v Suze>you become its employee. So therefore, you have to pay

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<v Suze>yourself a real salary, like a paycheck, a W-2, just

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<v Suze>like you work for anybody else. However, you only pay

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<v Suze>Social Security and Medicare tax on your salary.

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<v Suze>But the profit above your salary that comes to you

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<v Suze>as a distribution, so there is no self-employment tax on it, none.

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<v Suze>So bottom line, if your business is making serious money,

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<v Suze>an S corp saves you thousands in payroll taxes every

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<v Suze>single year.

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<v Suze>So KT, you tell everybody in your opinion, why doesn't

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<v Suze>everybody do that?

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<v KT>S corps aren't that easy. All right, there's benefits, but

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<v KT>it costs you money, everybody. You have to set up

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<v KT>payroll services. You need a separate tax return, and the

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<v KT>IRS really takes a look to make sure your salary

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<v KT>is reasonable, so you can't get away with anything.

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<v Suze>You can't pay yourself $10,000,  everybody and then take

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<v Suze>$200,000 in distributions. They will come after you for that.

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<v Suze>So KT tell everybody who should do in your opinion,

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<v Suze>an S corp versus a sole proprietor.

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<v KT>If you're just starting out, let's say you're a hairdresser,

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<v KT>you're just starting out, you're making modest profits. A sole

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<v KT>proprietor is fine. It's simple. It's clean. It's actually a

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<v KT>whole lot easier.

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<v KT>And, and a little less work in terms of filing

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<v KT>and keeping track of everything.

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<v Suze>You're doing great so far. You're about to get a

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<v Suze>ding ding ding.

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<v KT>Wait a minute. But Suze, if you start out and

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<v KT>let's say you have a great idea for a business

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<v KT>and that business after your first, second year starts to skyrocket,

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<v KT>let's say it goes beyond your wildest dreams.

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<v Suze>Actually, KT, it's if, wait, if it goes beyond what

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<v Suze>a reasonable salary would be for you, that is the key.

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<v Suze>If a reasonable salary for you is X and all

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<v Suze>of a sudden you've made 2 or 3 x, that's

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<v Suze>when you consult a CPA and look into getting an

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<v Suze>S corp. Just that simple KT next question.

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<v KT>OK, Suze, this next question is from Teresa, and I

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<v KT>can tell you something. She watched the Suze Orman show

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<v KT>because after reading this question, it is.

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<v KT>Definitely a can I afford it question.

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<v Suze>Oh well, that's easy, denied.

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<v KT>She said, Suze, I would like to buy a quiet

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<v KT>luxury handbag in a basic color that is timeless, meaning

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<v KT>I will keep it until I die.

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<v KT>She said, I'm 67 years old. I am a teacher.

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<v KT>I plan on retiring next year. I live in California

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<v KT>and will retire with a decent educator's pension. So she said,

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<v KT>right now, I have about $600,000 in a 403B.

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<v KT>And a 457. I have $200,000 in a CD. I

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<v KT>have $30,000 in savings, and my husband and I have

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<v KT>a house fund for emergencies of about $16,000. The most

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<v KT>I have ever spent on a handbag was $259.

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<v KT>And that was for Dooney and Burke, which is a

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<v KT>nice looking bag.

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<v Suze>I personally wouldn't know.

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<v KT>OK, so she said, I would really like to own

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<v KT>a nice designer bag, The Row, a Bottega Venita, Chanel,

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<v KT>anything between $1,500 but no more than $3,000. What is

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<v KT>your advice?

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<v Suze>Really?

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<v KT>What's your advice?

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<v Suze>My advice is let's hear what KT has to say

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<v Suze>to you.

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<v KT>OK, so Suze's asking me to answer this because she

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<v KT>knows I worked in the luxury business for many years

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<v KT>with all of these designer brands, and I have to

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<v KT>tell you something. If I were you, Teresa, I would

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<v KT>go to a consignment store or some of these online secondhand.

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<v KT>You know, um, opportunities where you can get a beautiful

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<v KT>designer bag for pennies on the dollar, and then you

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<v KT>satisfy both needs. You keep saving and you have a

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<v KT>designer bag that you really wanted.

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<v Suze>See, I knew you would give her the best answer.

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<v KT>What do you think?

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<v Suze>Well, I think your answer is absolutely correct, but here's

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<v Suze>my concern. My concern is this, Teresa, you're 67 years

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<v Suze>of age. And you plan on retiring next year. That

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<v Suze>means your income, everything stops.

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<v Suze>And at the time of life when you're retiring, this

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<v Suze>is when you want a designer bag. Usually, especially women,

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<v Suze>when they approach retirement and they know income is going

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<v Suze>to stop, rather than spend, that's when they take their

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<v Suze>money and they wanna save, save, save.

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<v Suze>But not you. So it makes me wonder why, why

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<v Suze>at this point in your life, why is now the

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<v Suze>time that you want a designer bag? Hey, if you

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<v Suze>were 40, 50 right now, I'd say, yeah, go ahead.

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<v Suze>But at 67, I'm just wondering why.

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<v Suze>So I'd like you to answer that question for yourself,

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<v Suze>and if you come up with the reason that makes

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<v Suze>sense that you want to spend that kind of money

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<v Suze>one year before you retire, OK, if it were me,

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<v Suze>I would not be doing it, but more important than

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<v Suze>you buying the bag, I want you to understand why.

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<v Suze>Why at this point in your life do you want

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<v Suze>to do that? Next question, KT.

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<v KT>OK, from Stacy. Hi, Suze. I saw where you mentioned

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<v KT>that paying off your mortgage is the most important thing

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<v KT>for retirement. I agree.

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<v Suze>One of them, yes.

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<v KT>OK, so here is my dilemma. I am 63 years old.

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<v KT>I owe $130,000 on my condo.

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<v KT>I make $110,000 per year and I have $300,000 in

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<v KT>my 401k. I only have $15,000 in saving because I

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<v KT>just put a big down payment on a car. I

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<v KT>also have about $60,000 in gold and silver that I

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<v KT>can sell. I am still working and don't plan to

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<v KT>retire anytime soon.

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<v KT>Any advice as to how to pay off my mortgage?

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<v Suze>Yes, stop spending money you don't have simply to impress

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<v Suze>people you don't even know or like, because anybody who

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<v Suze>buys a big car and they have to put a

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<v Suze>down payment on it, that's exactly why they're doing it.

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<v Suze>But that's besides the point. Here's my concern for you.

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<v Suze>You say that you want to own your home outright,

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<v Suze>all right, by the time you retire, even though you

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<v Suze>don't plan to retire any time soon. Number one, you

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<v Suze>want to make God laugh. Have you ever heard this?

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<v Suze>Show her your plan. You don't know. Are you in

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<v Suze>a car accident? Are you sick? What happens? Does your

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<v Suze>company close? You don't know how long you have to work.

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<v Suze>You don't know that. That's an unknown.

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<v Suze>So I always tell you invest in the known versus

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<v Suze>the unknown. The known is most likely you're still going

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<v Suze>to need a home to live in, whether you are

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<v Suze>working or not. The known is your biggest monthly expense

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<v Suze>is your mortgage payment. Therefore, if you know that you

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<v Suze>want to stay in that house for the rest of

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<v Suze>your life, then that should have been a long time now.

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<v Suze>That should have been for a long time your number

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<v Suze>one priority to have it paid off by the time

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<v Suze>you retire. But no, you decided to take money even

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<v Suze>though all you have is $15,000 in an emergency fund. Really?

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<v Suze>All right. You decided to take emergency fund money from

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<v Suze>savings to put a large down payment on a car. Why?

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<v Suze>So your monthly payments could be smaller. Are you kidding me?

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<v Suze>And, you have $60,000 in gold and silver. Do what

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<v Suze>it already has gone up. Here's the bottom line. If

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<v Suze>it were me, this is what I would do. I

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<v Suze>would sell the gold and the silver, all of it.

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<v Suze>Maybe you have a capital gain. Maybe you don't. I

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<v Suze>don't know. You'll have to check that out before you

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<v Suze>sell it. If you could take that money and put

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<v Suze>it into your mortgage.

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<v Suze>That you currently have towards principal, make sure it goes

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<v Suze>towards principal. Now all you owe is $70,000 and if

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<v Suze>you continue to pay your monthly mortgage like you do

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<v Suze>right now or do it on a biweekly schedule where

0:14:58.429 --> 0:15:00.789
<v Suze>you actually do it every two weeks, which means you

0:15:00.789 --> 0:15:02.989
<v Suze>make one extra payment a year.

0:15:03.940 --> 0:15:07.859
<v Suze>You will have that mortgage paid off sooner than you

0:15:07.859 --> 0:15:13.539
<v Suze>have any idea. That is number one. Number two, you

0:15:13.539 --> 0:15:16.179
<v Suze>make $110,000 a year.

0:15:16.780 --> 0:15:20.859
<v Suze>And you're 63 years of age and you only have

0:15:20.859 --> 0:15:26.340
<v Suze>now $15,000 in savings. You need to take a hard

0:15:26.340 --> 0:15:30.799
<v Suze>look at yourself and what are you spending your money

0:15:30.799 --> 0:15:35.179
<v Suze>on because you don't say you're married, you don't say

0:15:35.179 --> 0:15:38.489
<v Suze>that you have kids, you use the word I throughout

0:15:38.489 --> 0:15:39.919
<v Suze>this entire thing.

0:15:40.570 --> 0:15:45.650
<v Suze>You know, and so therefore, you also have $300,000 in

0:15:45.650 --> 0:15:49.750
<v Suze>a 401k. It's not even a Roth 401k.

0:15:50.780 --> 0:15:54.739
<v Suze>So that means you don't have $300,000 in there because

0:15:54.739 --> 0:15:56.309
<v Suze>when you go to take it out you're going to

0:15:56.309 --> 0:16:00.409
<v Suze>owe ordinary income tax on it. So you have done

0:16:01.659 --> 0:16:05.309
<v Suze>everything wrong. You just have, and that is me standing

0:16:05.309 --> 0:16:09.070
<v Suze>in your truth for you because you wrote in and

0:16:09.070 --> 0:16:11.830
<v Suze>you didn't write in to get me to tell you

0:16:11.830 --> 0:16:15.309
<v Suze>what you could do. You already knew you need to

0:16:15.309 --> 0:16:16.489
<v Suze>stand in your truth.

0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.250
<v Suze>And you need to make you and your life and

0:16:20.250 --> 0:16:25.109
<v Suze>your money in savings and investment your number one priority

0:16:26.039 --> 0:16:27.750
<v Suze>over flashy things.

0:16:28.820 --> 0:16:32.739
<v Suze>Such as a car. All right, KT, next.

0:16:33.299 --> 0:16:38.140
<v KT>OK, this is from Maria, a simple one liner which

0:16:38.140 --> 0:16:43.299
<v KT>I love everybody. Maria asks Suze, does a living revocable

0:16:43.299 --> 0:16:47.010
<v KT>trust need to be registered at the county you live in?

0:16:47.340 --> 0:16:51.140
<v Suze>No, it does not, never has and never will. Now

0:16:51.140 --> 0:16:53.659
<v Suze>maybe there's some places that do, but not that I

0:16:53.659 --> 0:16:55.299
<v Suze>know of. All right, go on next.

0:16:55.780 --> 0:16:59.289
<v KT>So, from Diane. I don't have a trust because I

0:16:59.289 --> 0:17:03.690
<v KT>don't have any executor for my estate. I have no

0:17:03.690 --> 0:17:07.670
<v KT>family members, and most of my friends are older or gone.

0:17:07.969 --> 0:17:10.770
<v KT>I tried to hire an attorney, and she did not

0:17:10.770 --> 0:17:15.010
<v KT>want to be the executor. I'm leaving my entire estate

0:17:15.010 --> 0:17:19.209
<v KT>to charity, and I'm 76 years old. I don't know

0:17:19.209 --> 0:17:23.369
<v KT>what to do, and I'm very concerned. So, Suze, how

0:17:23.369 --> 0:17:26.889
<v KT>will the documents work if I don't have any one

0:17:27.489 --> 0:17:29.729
<v KT>to distribute my assets.

0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.310
<v KT>So I think, and she wrote, please enlighten me. So

0:17:33.310 --> 0:17:35.079
<v KT>can you please enlighten her?

0:17:35.180 --> 0:17:38.390
<v Suze>I can. And here's the first thing I'm gonna tell you.

0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.959
<v Suze>You don't have a will. You don't have a trust

0:17:40.959 --> 0:17:43.599
<v Suze>because of this excuse that you don't have an executor.

0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.479
<v Suze>Guess what? You have one. If you die, and this

0:17:47.479 --> 0:17:50.959
<v Suze>is true for everybody, if you die without a will,

0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:55.959
<v Suze>without a trust, the state that you live in deems

0:17:55.959 --> 0:17:59.399
<v Suze>that you have died intestate succession.

0:18:00.030 --> 0:18:05.109
<v Suze>And your assets will pass according to the succession rules

0:18:05.109 --> 0:18:09.130
<v Suze>of the state that you live in plus probate fees, OK?

0:18:09.510 --> 0:18:12.390
<v Suze>So let's just say your mother was still alive and

0:18:12.390 --> 0:18:14.900
<v Suze>you had kids, all right, maybe half would go to

0:18:14.900 --> 0:18:15.829
<v Suze>your mother or

0:18:15.979 --> 0:18:18.430
<v Suze>father, half would go to your kids. If you don't

0:18:18.430 --> 0:18:21.189
<v Suze>have any relatives or anybody, maybe they're going to look

0:18:21.189 --> 0:18:26.109
<v Suze>for cousins, uncles, aunts, but you already have one, whether

0:18:26.109 --> 0:18:29.000
<v Suze>you know it or not. You want to take power

0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.969
<v Suze>over your money. There's a few things you can do,

0:18:32.550 --> 0:18:36.709
<v Suze>depending on where your assets are. I'm assuming you have

0:18:36.709 --> 0:18:39.550
<v Suze>bank accounts, maybe you have a brokerage account, maybe you

0:18:39.550 --> 0:18:40.810
<v Suze>have a retirement account.

0:18:41.689 --> 0:18:46.379
<v Suze>You could designate right here and right now upon your

0:18:46.380 --> 0:18:50.729
<v Suze>death what's known as a pay on death account. You die,

0:18:51.060 --> 0:18:55.359
<v Suze>name the charities now that you want to get your money.

0:18:56.030 --> 0:18:58.109
<v Suze>You own a home. You could do a transfer on

0:18:58.109 --> 0:19:00.589
<v Suze>death account if you want. Who is to get your

0:19:00.589 --> 0:19:03.270
<v Suze>home if you have one? If that's to go to

0:19:03.270 --> 0:19:08.189
<v Suze>a charity, then do that. But you name it now

0:19:08.189 --> 0:19:12.069
<v Suze>while you still can, and that's the easiest way to

0:19:12.069 --> 0:19:15.879
<v Suze>take care of it. But I'm actually not that concerned

0:19:16.229 --> 0:19:18.989
<v Suze>about where your money goes when you have died.

0:19:19.709 --> 0:19:24.250
<v Suze>I'm concerned about what happens if something happens to you

0:19:24.420 --> 0:19:28.050
<v Suze>and how do we use your money to pay your bills,

0:19:28.180 --> 0:19:30.540
<v Suze>write your checks if you even write checks any more,

0:19:30.869 --> 0:19:34.420
<v Suze>to pay for a nursing home, to do all those things. Who,

0:19:34.550 --> 0:19:37.469
<v Suze>Diane is going to do that for you? All of

0:19:37.469 --> 0:19:41.589
<v Suze>a sudden you become incapacitated. You have a stroke. Anything

0:19:41.589 --> 0:19:42.599
<v Suze>can happen.

0:19:43.369 --> 0:19:47.849
<v Suze>So, you need to designate a durable power of attorney

0:19:47.849 --> 0:19:50.770
<v Suze>for health care, who can make health care decisions for you.

0:19:51.089 --> 0:19:56.250
<v Suze>So the must-have documents really can serve you well now.

0:19:57.209 --> 0:20:00.449
<v Suze>If you really don't have any friends, if you don't

0:20:00.449 --> 0:20:04.050
<v Suze>have anybody in your life, then you're in a situation

0:20:04.050 --> 0:20:08.890
<v Suze>where you need to hire a professional trustee, and there

0:20:08.890 --> 0:20:12.930
<v Suze>are firms that do that. Many banks will do that

0:20:12.930 --> 0:20:16.689
<v Suze>for you. Many brokerage firms may be will do that

0:20:16.689 --> 0:20:20.810
<v Suze>for you. You never know, but you will find somebody,

0:20:20.849 --> 0:20:24.188
<v Suze>but you need to get on it right now. But

0:20:24.770 --> 0:20:26.790
<v Suze>not taking action now.

0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.708
<v Suze>Just because you have an excuse of I don't have

0:20:30.709 --> 0:20:35.510
<v Suze>an executive for my estate just doesn't hold water with me.

0:20:35.900 --> 0:20:39.709
<v Suze>So tomorrow you are to make calls and you are

0:20:39.709 --> 0:20:43.270
<v Suze>to make pay on death accounts, find a trustee, and

0:20:43.270 --> 0:20:47.909
<v Suze>get yourself the must-have documents and do this now. Go

0:20:47.910 --> 0:20:50.260
<v Suze>to musthavedocs.com. Yes, KT.

0:20:51.060 --> 0:20:54.349
<v KT>OK, this next one and my final question.

0:20:54.650 --> 0:20:59.410
<v KT>It is fabulous, Suze. I love this. It's from Mary.

0:20:59.530 --> 0:21:03.510
<v KT>She said, KT KT, KT, please, please, please pick me.

0:21:03.969 --> 0:21:08.400
<v KT>And then she said, Help our beautiful 94 year old mom.

0:21:08.890 --> 0:21:14.729
<v KT>Love this question. My 94-year-old mom has about $10,000 in

0:21:14.729 --> 0:21:18.010
<v KT>credit card debt and has only been able to make

0:21:18.010 --> 0:21:22.889
<v KT>the minimum payments. Suze, the account is not delinquent, but

0:21:22.890 --> 0:21:24.449
<v KT>it's becoming a burden.

0:21:24.949 --> 0:21:28.300
<v KT>She has no other debt. She does have a reverse

0:21:28.300 --> 0:21:33.140
<v KT>mortgage and lives on Social Security and a teacher's pension.

0:21:33.660 --> 0:21:38.180
<v KT>She has early memory loss from multiple mini strokes, but

0:21:38.180 --> 0:21:42.579
<v KT>she's still remarkably independent. I moved in with her this

0:21:42.579 --> 0:21:47.180
<v KT>year to help care for her, though she's amazingly physically

0:21:47.180 --> 0:21:49.369
<v KT>capable for her age.

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:54.260
<v KT>The five of us kids help with expenses when needed,

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.520
<v KT>but we're at a point where we need to prioritize

0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:02.000
<v KT>our own financial future. If she doesn't have this credit

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:06.599
<v KT>card debt, she could cover her monthly expenses. What do

0:22:06.599 --> 0:22:07.420
<v KT>you recommend?

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.699
<v Suze>So you know, I'm a little confused here because $10,000

0:22:10.699 --> 0:22:12.219
<v Suze>of credit card debt is nothing.

0:22:12.810 --> 0:22:15.968
<v Suze>I have a feeling that Mary meant to say she

0:22:15.969 --> 0:22:21.290
<v Suze>has about $100,000 in credit card debt and, and yes,

0:22:21.530 --> 0:22:25.729
<v Suze>because $10,000 in credit card debt, KT, the minimum payment

0:22:25.729 --> 0:22:28.410
<v Suze>due would be like $200 a month, $300 a month.

0:22:28.650 --> 0:22:31.540
<v Suze>It's a burden when it's $2,000 or $3,000 a month.

0:22:32.050 --> 0:22:34.530
<v Suze>All right, so Mary, I'm just going to make the

0:22:34.530 --> 0:22:38.530
<v Suze>assumption that when you wrote this, you wanted to put

0:22:38.530 --> 0:22:41.849
<v Suze>down $100,000 and instead you put down $10,000.

0:22:42.194 --> 0:22:47.395
<v Suze>If you really did mean $10,000 then something is radically

0:22:47.395 --> 0:22:50.395
<v Suze>wrong and the five kids should each come up with

0:22:50.395 --> 0:22:54.915
<v Suze>$2,000 each and pay off that debt. But I just

0:22:54.915 --> 0:22:59.675
<v Suze>can't believe that $10,000 of credit card debt is that

0:22:59.675 --> 0:23:02.025
<v Suze>big of a burden. So I'm going to go with

0:23:02.025 --> 0:23:06.675
<v Suze>my feelings, KT, and say it's $100,000. So you need

0:23:06.675 --> 0:23:10.974
<v Suze>to listen to me here, which is this first of all.

0:23:12.060 --> 0:23:17.060
<v Suze>You know, mama has already a reverse mortgage. She's been

0:23:17.060 --> 0:23:22.699
<v Suze>living far beyond her means for a long, long time.

0:23:23.020 --> 0:23:26.239
<v Suze>You say she has no other debt. Well, that's great.

0:23:26.420 --> 0:23:30.459
<v Suze>$100,000 of credit card debt, a reverse mortgage, lives on

0:23:30.459 --> 0:23:34.449
<v Suze>Social Security and a teacher's pension, and blah, blah blah blah.

0:23:34.739 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Suze>My real concern is here.

0:23:37.989 --> 0:23:41.469
<v Suze>She has memory loss and it could get bad and

0:23:41.469 --> 0:23:46.310
<v Suze>even though you moved in with her, that doesn't mean

0:23:46.310 --> 0:23:48.869
<v Suze>necessarily that you're going to be able to take care

0:23:48.869 --> 0:23:49.929
<v Suze>of her really.

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Suze>It just does because sometimes they wander, they'll leave the

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.979
<v Suze>house in the middle of the night, all kinds of things,

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:01.680
<v Suze>and you'll find that even though you love her, you

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.880
<v Suze>moved in with her, you might not be able to

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:09.030
<v Suze>let her stay there, all right, so you should number one,

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Suze>be looking at a memory care facility just in case

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:16.659
<v Suze>you have to move her into one, all right.

0:24:17.199 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Suze>That's number one. If you do have to move her

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.660
<v Suze>into one now, you may need to sell the house,

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:28.619
<v Suze>but because she has a reverse mortgage on the home,

0:24:29.199 --> 0:24:32.479
<v Suze>I don't know how long she has had this home

0:24:32.479 --> 0:24:36.479
<v Suze>for on a reverse mortgage. There may be equity in

0:24:36.479 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Suze>her home, and there may not be very much equity

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:40.739
<v Suze>in her home.

0:24:41.260 --> 0:24:44.139
<v Suze>So it just depends how long she has had a

0:24:44.140 --> 0:24:48.419
<v Suze>reverse mortgage, and given that she is 94, why do

0:24:48.420 --> 0:24:50.979
<v Suze>I think she's had one for at least 15 or

0:24:50.979 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Suze>20 years already.

0:24:53.239 --> 0:24:57.729
<v Suze>So we have a very, very serious situation here, Mary,

0:24:58.130 --> 0:25:02.449
<v Suze>and this is where the kids, all the kids, the

0:25:02.449 --> 0:25:06.699
<v Suze>five of you, need to get together and really look

0:25:06.699 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Suze>at what is the current equity in her home if

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Suze>the reverse mortgage was to be paid off. How much

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Suze>does a memory care facility really cost? And if, in fact,

0:25:20.199 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Suze>now listen to me closely.

0:25:22.780 --> 0:25:25.530
<v Suze>You've done that and they can't really attach a home

0:25:25.530 --> 0:25:28.659
<v Suze>or take anything away from her or whatever. You've sold

0:25:28.660 --> 0:25:32.698
<v Suze>the home. She has no assets. If she really has

0:25:32.699 --> 0:25:40.314
<v Suze>$100,000 of credit card debt after you have arranged everything

0:25:40.314 --> 0:25:42.899
<v Suze>for her and you know what's really going on.

0:25:44.140 --> 0:25:48.188
<v Suze>If that was my mother, I would consider claiming bankruptcy.

0:25:49.510 --> 0:25:53.250
<v Suze>Only if they can't take the house away from her,

0:25:53.869 --> 0:25:58.410
<v Suze>because the rules of bankruptcy is once you owe more

0:25:58.589 --> 0:26:04.089
<v Suze>than what you make, you are already technically bankrupt now.

0:26:04.390 --> 0:26:06.698
<v Suze>That debt is not going to pass down to the

0:26:06.699 --> 0:26:10.219
<v Suze>five kids. You could very easily, believe it or not,

0:26:10.270 --> 0:26:13.410
<v Suze>just stop paying it, and what are they going to do.

0:26:14.060 --> 0:26:18.929
<v Suze>Really it's unsecured debt. It's not secured by the house.

0:26:19.290 --> 0:26:22.969
<v Suze>Will it ruin her FICO score? Absolutely it will. But

0:26:22.969 --> 0:26:27.459
<v Suze>the truth of the matter is, who cares? Who cares

0:26:27.459 --> 0:26:31.569
<v Suze>about a FICO score when you are 94 years of age?

0:26:31.900 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Suze>So there are many things that you can do here.

0:26:35.939 --> 0:26:38.900
<v Suze>But if she really can't afford it.

0:26:39.780 --> 0:26:44.329
<v Suze>And she probably used that money to live on, so

0:26:44.329 --> 0:26:46.270
<v Suze>she didn't go on and buy all these fancy things

0:26:46.270 --> 0:26:47.188
<v Suze>and everything.

0:26:48.010 --> 0:26:51.569
<v Suze>Those are some ideas that you might want to think

0:26:51.569 --> 0:26:56.790
<v Suze>about again. Listen to my answer. Do you sell the home?

0:26:57.089 --> 0:27:00.199
<v Suze>Do you claim bankruptcy? Will they allow her to keep

0:27:00.199 --> 0:27:03.650
<v Suze>the home? Is there any equity in the home, or

0:27:03.650 --> 0:27:06.729
<v Suze>does it just make sense? And you should see a

0:27:06.729 --> 0:27:12.449
<v Suze>bankruptcy lawyer to claim bankruptcy or just stop paying the

0:27:12.449 --> 0:27:16.489
<v Suze>credit card and let it go into default ruins her

0:27:16.489 --> 0:27:17.469
<v Suze>FICO score.

0:27:18.130 --> 0:27:20.819
<v Suze>But there's nothing really much more they can do about

0:27:20.819 --> 0:27:25.698
<v Suze>that really because it's unsecured debt. Now maybe they could

0:27:25.699 --> 0:27:27.859
<v Suze>sue her, who knows, but they're not going to at

0:27:27.859 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Suze>this point in time. Those are some of your alternatives

0:27:33.459 --> 0:27:37.979
<v Suze>that you're going to have to decide what you should do.

0:27:38.959 --> 0:27:41.670
<v Suze>All right, KT, and that was kind of heavy, huh?

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Suze>It's been years since I suggested possible bankruptcy.

0:27:45.959 --> 0:27:49.020
<v KT>But I'm glad you did because I think that's probably

0:27:49.479 --> 0:27:53.760
<v KT>the best solution right now. But, she won't, the, the mother,

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.629
<v KT>like she's 94 and she's racked up that much credit card debt?

0:27:58.209 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Suze>Maybe we don't know how she's lived for the past

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Suze>x amount of years, and this goes back to what

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:09.229
<v Suze>I think I said in last Sunday's, right, podcast. Kids

0:28:09.229 --> 0:28:14.890
<v Suze>get involved with your parents' money sooner than later. Parents,

0:28:15.260 --> 0:28:20.260
<v Suze>let your kids get involved with your money, because this

0:28:20.260 --> 0:28:25.188
<v Suze>situation never should have happened ever. And again, Mary, if

0:28:25.189 --> 0:28:29.540
<v Suze>it is only $10,000 of credit card debt, great. Each

0:28:29.540 --> 0:28:32.270
<v Suze>of you can put in $2,000 each, get rid of

0:28:32.270 --> 0:28:36.369
<v Suze>the debt, and you're fine, but no way is $10,000

0:28:36.890 --> 0:28:39.670
<v Suze>doing this to your mother. No way.

0:28:40.290 --> 0:28:41.430
<v Suze>All right, KT.

0:28:41.530 --> 0:28:42.670
<v KT>That's a wrap, Suze.

0:28:42.770 --> 0:28:47.930
<v Suze>That's a wrap. And listen, next week, August 2nd, I'm

0:28:47.930 --> 0:28:52.670
<v Suze>gonna be doing a master class on required minimum distributions.

0:28:52.949 --> 0:28:57.349
<v Suze>You will love it, so make sure you tune in.

0:28:57.939 --> 0:29:00.979
<v Suze>We love you all, and there's only one thing we

0:29:00.979 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Suze>want you to remember when it comes to your money,

0:29:03.140 --> 0:29:03.619
<v Suze>and it is this:

0:29:04.380 --> 0:29:06.760
<v KT>People first, then money, then things.

0:29:06.859 --> 0:29:10.359
<v Suze>Now you stay safe. All right, bye bye.