1 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:38,750 Suze: October 29, 2022. Welcome everybody to the Women and Money 2 00:00:38,750 --> 00:00:42,909 Suze: podcast as well as everyone. And I do mean everyone 3 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,180 Suze: smart enough to listen. All right, Suze O here. 4 00:00:48,850 --> 00:00:49,570 Suze: Now 5 00:00:50,210 --> 00:00:57,330 Suze: The I bond frenzy is over. If you didn't purchase 6 00:00:57,340 --> 00:01:02,680 Suze: an I bond, a Series I bond prior to really 7 00:01:02,690 --> 00:01:06,050 Suze: October 26, 27th, right in there. 8 00:01:07,069 --> 00:01:12,840 Suze: You do not qualify for the 9.62% annualized interest rate anymore. 9 00:01:12,850 --> 00:01:18,460 Suze: That will change on November 1 of this year, probably 10 00:01:18,459 --> 00:01:25,960 Suze: to 6.48%. Remember those are annualized yields. Interest rate on 11 00:01:25,970 --> 00:01:29,870 Suze: I bonds are only really good for six months because 12 00:01:29,870 --> 00:01:32,179 Suze: they change every six months. 13 00:01:32,690 --> 00:01:38,110 Suze: So you always divide whatever the current yield is by 2, 14 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:43,160 Suze: to know exactly what your money will earn. One of 15 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,020 Suze: the questions that I've been asked is Suze. If I 16 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:52,880 Suze: purchased an I bond $10,000 of an I bond and locked 17 00:01:52,890 --> 00:01:58,310 Suze: in the 7.12% interest rate annualized. 18 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:05,560 Suze: Which was what was offered November of 2021. 19 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,200 Suze: How much money would I actually earn in interest? If 20 00:02:10,210 --> 00:02:18,329 Suze: I qualified for the 7.12%, the 9.62% and the 6.48%, 21 00:02:18,340 --> 00:02:20,200 Suze: that is coming up? 22 00:02:20,910 --> 00:02:23,530 Suze: Just to make it easy on you and not go 23 00:02:23,530 --> 00:02:27,419 Suze: through all the calculations after you have owned that I bond 24 00:02:27,580 --> 00:02:33,780 Suze: for 18 months. And if you invested $10,000, you will 25 00:02:33,780 --> 00:02:40,139 Suze: have earned $1,208 on your I bond. 26 00:02:41,389 --> 00:02:44,750 Suze: That is what you need to know, how did I 27 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,450 Suze: get at that number? 28 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:52,950 Suze: If you invested November 1, 2021 all the way through 29 00:02:52,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Suze: about April 28, 2022 you would have locked in 7.12. 30 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Suze: Half of that is 3.56%. So for those six months 31 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:13,850 Suze: you would have earned $356. You need to know that 32 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:19,100 Suze: interest compound semi annually on an I. Bond. 33 00:03:19,770 --> 00:03:25,730 Suze: So now you would have $10,356 in there. 34 00:03:26,610 --> 00:03:33,770 Suze: To earn for the next six months, 9.62% interest annualized 35 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:44,890 Suze: or 4.81% actual interest. 4.81% interest on your $10,356. You 36 00:03:44,890 --> 00:03:50,710 Suze: will earn $500 of interest for those next six months. 37 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:58,500 Suze: If you stay in there and then you earn 6.48% annualized. 38 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:05,670 Suze: Which is 3.24 actual interest you will earn for those 39 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:12,790 Suze: six months, $352. So in totality for the 18 months 40 00:04:12,790 --> 00:04:15,140 Suze: you would have owned this bond. 41 00:04:15,730 --> 00:04:21,790 Suze: You will have earned $1,208. So I hope 42 00:04:22,310 --> 00:04:27,529 Suze: that solves that question. Why was it so hard for 43 00:04:27,529 --> 00:04:31,880 Suze: you to buy an I bond lately? Why was treasury 44 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,010 Suze: direct dot gov crashing? 45 00:04:34,570 --> 00:04:37,859 Suze: I just want you to know that in the past week. 46 00:04:37,860 --> 00:04:55,330 Suze: Not even a week. Right. Almost $1.9 billion 2021. 47 00:04:56,350 --> 00:05:01,040 Suze: So all of you finally got on the I bond 48 00:05:01,050 --> 00:05:06,580 Suze: bandwagon now I just want you to slow down with 49 00:05:06,580 --> 00:05:12,150 Suze: your I bond purchases while it is true that 6.48% 50 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,770 Suze: is a great interest rate still. 51 00:05:15,290 --> 00:05:19,120 Suze: We do not know what the interest rates are going 52 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:24,300 Suze: to be come May of 2023. 53 00:05:24,930 --> 00:05:28,890 Suze: So I bonds have been fabulous for the past few 54 00:05:28,890 --> 00:05:33,859 Suze: years depending on inflation, we will have to see where 55 00:05:33,860 --> 00:05:36,590 Suze: they go. So I have to tell you, I am 56 00:05:36,589 --> 00:05:41,200 Suze: not as gung ho right now on I bonds as 57 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,390 Suze: I was starting a few years ago when I first 58 00:05:45,390 --> 00:05:47,270 Suze: started to talk about them. 59 00:05:47,860 --> 00:05:51,460 Suze: So I don't have a problem if you buy this 60 00:05:51,470 --> 00:05:53,950 Suze: series at 6.48 61 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,210 Suze: but just let's watch where interest rates go after this 62 00:05:59,390 --> 00:06:03,970 Suze: because if inflation goes down but interest rates still stay 63 00:06:03,980 --> 00:06:04,630 Suze: up 64 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Suze: in Treasuries and other investments, if the market happens to 65 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,839 Suze: go seriously down and dividend yielding stocks are paying you 66 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,170 Suze: more than what an I bond possibly can be giving 67 00:06:16,170 --> 00:06:20,890 Suze: you in the future. We may change course. So just 68 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:24,860 Suze: because I have loved series, I bonds now for a 69 00:06:24,860 --> 00:06:26,010 Suze: long time 70 00:06:26,380 --> 00:06:29,920 Suze: doesn't mean that I'm always going to love them. So 71 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:36,360 Suze: you have to stay tuned. Got that everybody? Next. I 72 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,950 Suze: have been asking all of you to consider Treasury bills 73 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:45,339 Suze: and notes as a possible alternative to even investing in 74 00:06:45,339 --> 00:06:49,830 Suze: the stock market. Because many of you could absolutely get 75 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,520 Suze: 4 4.5% on your money 76 00:06:54,310 --> 00:06:58,680 Suze: safe and sound guaranteed by the authority of the United 77 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Suze: States government state tax free. Fabulous. Why would many of 78 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,640 Suze: you want to go into the stock market with all 79 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,480 Suze: of its fluctuations and then I'm sure given what's happened 80 00:07:13,490 --> 00:07:15,410 Suze: in the past week or so 81 00:07:15,730 --> 00:07:17,730 Suze: You're like Oh my God, I've got to get back 82 00:07:17,730 --> 00:07:20,190 Suze: in the stock market. Are you kidding me? Look at 83 00:07:20,190 --> 00:07:23,450 Suze: what it's done like the Dow Jones industrial average is 84 00:07:23,450 --> 00:07:27,450 Suze: up almost 15% just for this month alone 85 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:31,240 Suze: as you know, a week or so ago, maybe two 86 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,900 Suze: weeks ago. I said it would not surprise me if 87 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:38,340 Suze: this market went up and it went up that week. 88 00:07:38,350 --> 00:07:40,820 Suze: I then said to you, it would not surprise me 89 00:07:40,820 --> 00:07:45,490 Suze: if it continued up for two, three or four weeks, it 90 00:07:45,490 --> 00:07:48,430 Suze: is probable that it will most likely do that. Which 91 00:07:48,430 --> 00:07:50,890 Suze: it is doing and it has done. 92 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:57,220 Suze: However, I will reiterate that even though it is going 93 00:07:57,230 --> 00:08:00,260 Suze: up right now and could continue to go up 94 00:08:01,420 --> 00:08:06,810 Suze: Eventually. I still believe that it will come back down 95 00:08:06,810 --> 00:08:10,950 Suze: now listen, I hope I am 100% wrong. I hope 96 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:13,900 Suze: this market goes up and up and up and that 97 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:16,520 Suze: many of you make a whole lot of money and 98 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,500 Suze: you feel secure all over again because your 401K. Plans 99 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:24,090 Suze: have come back your iras are back. You just are 100 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:25,620 Suze: happy again that way. 101 00:08:26,380 --> 00:08:28,850 Suze: I'll have to believe it to see it because I 102 00:08:28,850 --> 00:08:31,090 Suze: personally think long term 103 00:08:31,810 --> 00:08:36,470 Suze: the bias of the stock market will be down. A 104 00:08:36,470 --> 00:08:38,380 Suze: lot of you may be noticing 105 00:08:39,070 --> 00:08:42,640 Suze: that yeah the markets have gone up but your stocks 106 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,350 Suze: have not gone up at all. In fact many of 107 00:08:45,350 --> 00:08:50,550 Suze: your stocks have actually gone down considerably this past week. 108 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,220 Suze: Are you invested in meta which is the new name 109 00:08:54,220 --> 00:08:58,500 Suze: for facebook, one of the more disastrous weeks I've ever 110 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:05,700 Suze: seen was down 29% in just one day. Amazon was 111 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:08,750 Suze: down the only stock that was up a little bit. 112 00:09:08,750 --> 00:09:11,550 Suze: Technology stock was apple. 113 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:16,950 Suze: But most technology stocks that many of you made a 114 00:09:16,950 --> 00:09:23,220 Suze: fortune in over the past years are totally out of 115 00:09:23,220 --> 00:09:25,150 Suze: favor right now. 116 00:09:25,660 --> 00:09:30,059 Suze: The reason that you see the Dow Jones industrial average, 117 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:34,670 Suze: which is really only 30 stocks, it is not a 118 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:41,410 Suze: massive index by any means 30 really large blue chip 119 00:09:41,410 --> 00:09:46,429 Suze: stocks that is up is because it's not made up 120 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,390 Suze: of a whole lot of technology stocks. 121 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:54,840 Suze: It's made up of conservative blue chip stocks that are 122 00:09:54,850 --> 00:10:01,089 Suze: all over the place. But is that how your investment portfolio? 123 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:05,319 Suze: Is that how you are invested? Are you mainly invested 124 00:10:05,330 --> 00:10:05,530 Suze: in 125 00:10:05,554 --> 00:10:15,665 Suze: technology stocks like Salesforce, Crowdstrike, Amazon, Alphabet. All those stocks 126 00:10:15,705 --> 00:10:19,724 Suze: that were really the bedrock of all the gains in 127 00:10:19,725 --> 00:10:25,385 Suze: the stock market over the past few years. One of 128 00:10:25,385 --> 00:10:30,065 Suze: the crazy things about our indexes is that it is 129 00:10:30,065 --> 00:10:34,295 Suze: possible like what the Standard and Poor's 500 index 130 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,829 Suze: that the top few stocks mainly technology stocks, the top 131 00:10:40,830 --> 00:10:46,120 Suze: holdings in those indexes account for the majority of the 132 00:10:46,130 --> 00:10:50,820 Suze: increase or decrease of that index. Which is why it 133 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:56,290 Suze: is extremely important when I talk about diversification that you 134 00:10:56,290 --> 00:11:02,030 Suze: are diversified across the entire area of stocks 135 00:11:02,650 --> 00:11:07,080 Suze: that you do have technology stocks but you also have 136 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:14,730 Suze: stocks that are really invested in every day. Things All right. 137 00:11:14,740 --> 00:11:18,110 Suze: And so you might as an experiment and I could 138 00:11:18,110 --> 00:11:21,099 Suze: do it for you right here. But I want you 139 00:11:21,270 --> 00:11:24,910 Suze: to start to be independent where you know how to 140 00:11:24,910 --> 00:11:28,220 Suze: make decisions on your own. I want you to go 141 00:11:28,220 --> 00:11:31,730 Suze: and just look what are the stocks that make up 142 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:35,990 Suze: the Dow Jones industrial average that cause that index to 143 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:39,699 Suze: go up so high. What are the stocks that make 144 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:44,290 Suze: up the standard and poor's 500 index? The top stocks 145 00:11:44,460 --> 00:11:47,300 Suze: compare the top 30 stocks of that 146 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,790 Suze: to the top 30 stocks of the Dow Jones Industrial average, 147 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:58,089 Suze: then also the third index that we always quote is 148 00:11:58,090 --> 00:12:03,750 Suze: the NASDAQ and the NASDAQ especially 100. Look at the 149 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:08,510 Suze: top 30 stocks that are made up of that index 150 00:12:09,150 --> 00:12:13,240 Suze: and then you will get a feeling of essentially what 151 00:12:13,250 --> 00:12:16,349 Suze: is happening right now in the stock market 152 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,010 Suze: now. Do I think if you are heavily invested in 153 00:12:21,010 --> 00:12:21,670 Suze: tech 154 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,110 Suze: that it's just over for now, I kind of do, 155 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,700 Suze: I have to tell you, I think it's possible that 156 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:30,930 Suze: Amazon could come back somewhat. 157 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,490 Suze: Apple, they're loving Apple stock. But the other stocks, if 158 00:12:36,490 --> 00:12:41,449 Suze: you're heavily invested in tech, you may have to wait 159 00:12:41,450 --> 00:12:46,949 Suze: a while quite a while that includes the AK Innovation fund. Everybody, 160 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,599 Suze: you may have to wait a while to recapture any 161 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,470 Suze: losses that you have in those companies, 162 00:12:55,820 --> 00:13:00,460 Suze: we are approaching the end of this year, believe it 163 00:13:00,470 --> 00:13:05,469 Suze: or not, we have two months left. So what many 164 00:13:05,470 --> 00:13:09,020 Suze: people are doing right now that will affect all of 165 00:13:09,020 --> 00:13:12,670 Suze: these indexes by the way is they are doing something 166 00:13:12,670 --> 00:13:16,660 Suze: called tax lost harvesting 167 00:13:17,260 --> 00:13:22,290 Suze: and what that is, they are selling their stocks right 168 00:13:22,290 --> 00:13:22,900 Suze: now 169 00:13:23,820 --> 00:13:28,790 Suze: or their index funds whatever they're invested in and they 170 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,939 Suze: are taking a loss on their taxes and many of 171 00:13:33,940 --> 00:13:39,309 Suze: them are also selling their stocks that they have tremendous 172 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,679 Suze: gains in 173 00:13:41,220 --> 00:13:46,329 Suze: and they are offsetting their gains so they don't have 174 00:13:46,330 --> 00:13:51,960 Suze: to pay taxes on them with the losses that they have, 175 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:58,100 Suze: then they most likely will reinvest again in the companies 176 00:13:58,100 --> 00:14:02,280 Suze: that they want to own. What you have to know 177 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:05,790 Suze: is if you sell anything and this is all outside 178 00:14:05,790 --> 00:14:09,520 Suze: of a retirement account just so you know retirement accounts, 179 00:14:09,530 --> 00:14:12,420 Suze: you don't get to take losses. 180 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,620 Suze: So outside of a retirement account, what you have to 181 00:14:16,620 --> 00:14:21,410 Suze: know is that if you sell any stock that you 182 00:14:21,410 --> 00:14:24,680 Suze: have a loss in because you want to use that 183 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:30,580 Suze: loss to offset any gain that you have, you cannot 184 00:14:30,580 --> 00:14:34,330 Suze: buy that stock or even a similar stock really 185 00:14:35,260 --> 00:14:40,410 Suze: Within a 30 day period of time. So the government 186 00:14:40,410 --> 00:14:43,410 Suze: does not allow you to sell a stock 187 00:14:44,170 --> 00:14:48,320 Suze: and let's say you have a stock such as metal 188 00:14:48,730 --> 00:14:52,840 Suze: and you have a significant loss in that stock 189 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:55,430 Suze: and you sell it, 190 00:14:56,620 --> 00:15:02,800 Suze: You cannot buy back meta for at least 30 days. Alright, 191 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:08,400 Suze: everybody that's called the 30 day wash rule. 192 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:12,460 Suze: So these are little things that you need to know. 193 00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:17,340 Suze: So even in my own portfolio right now I am 194 00:15:17,340 --> 00:15:23,390 Suze: selling stocks that I have losses in to offset some 195 00:15:23,390 --> 00:15:27,820 Suze: of the stocks that I have tremendous gains in still 196 00:15:28,580 --> 00:15:32,490 Suze: And once I have done that then I will go 197 00:15:32,490 --> 00:15:36,640 Suze: back in and I can immediately go back in and 198 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,880 Suze: buy the stocks that I sold that had gains and 199 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Suze: there is no 30 day wash rule for gains. So 200 00:15:45,190 --> 00:15:48,530 Suze: it only applies to stocks that you are selling for 201 00:15:48,530 --> 00:15:52,740 Suze: a loss. So you're taking that off taxes when you 202 00:15:52,740 --> 00:15:55,860 Suze: have a gain that is offset by a loss 203 00:15:56,700 --> 00:16:00,340 Suze: you can go back in and immediately that same day 204 00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:03,150 Suze: buy that stock back. 205 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,780 Suze: So that is what I am currently doing in my 206 00:16:07,780 --> 00:16:12,530 Suze: own portfolio just so you know for those of you 207 00:16:12,530 --> 00:16:16,340 Suze: that it may apply to, you may want to consider 208 00:16:16,350 --> 00:16:18,750 Suze: doing that as well. 209 00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:24,690 Suze: Treasuries as you know, I've told many of you that 210 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:27,160 Suze: I really like Treasuries 211 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:31,700 Suze: and should you be buying them or should you not 212 00:16:31,710 --> 00:16:34,860 Suze: at this point in time. So many of you are 213 00:16:34,860 --> 00:16:38,190 Suze: writing me and saying is now the time to buy 214 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,940 Suze: a 20 or 30 year Treasury bond and lock in 215 00:16:42,940 --> 00:16:50,100 Suze: those interest rates if you are purchasing Treasury bills and notes, 216 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,670 Suze: I don't mind if you do so. In fact, I 217 00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:57,170 Suze: would love if you do so, but do not go 218 00:16:57,170 --> 00:17:01,600 Suze: out a lot further than five years if you're going 219 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,330 Suze: to buy Treasuries, I do believe you are going to 220 00:17:05,330 --> 00:17:10,490 Suze: see the interest rates on Treasuries start to come down 221 00:17:11,050 --> 00:17:13,950 Suze: and possibly the 10 year could go all the way 222 00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:19,870 Suze: down to 3.5%. But I think eventually interest rates will 223 00:17:19,869 --> 00:17:24,010 Suze: once again turn around and you could very easily see 224 00:17:24,010 --> 00:17:30,470 Suze: long term Treasuries at 5.5% when you see them possibly 225 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,420 Suze: around there, that is when you would go in and 226 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:38,080 Suze: purchase a 30 year Treasury bond, 227 00:17:38,530 --> 00:17:41,970 Suze: there are more ways for you to make money than 228 00:17:41,970 --> 00:17:46,030 Suze: just simply buying stocks and watching them go up or 229 00:17:46,030 --> 00:17:48,010 Suze: down or whatever it may be. 230 00:17:48,609 --> 00:17:51,730 Suze: When interest rates go down, 231 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:58,670 Suze: the price of bonds will go up. The longer the 232 00:17:58,670 --> 00:18:02,880 Suze: maturity of the bond, Listen closely to me, 233 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:08,180 Suze: the longer the maturity of the bomb, the more it 234 00:18:08,180 --> 00:18:10,720 Suze: moves up or down. 235 00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:15,210 Suze: So if interest rates go up in the world, bond 236 00:18:15,210 --> 00:18:20,240 Suze: prices go down. If interest rates go down, bond prices 237 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,189 Suze: go up. 238 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,970 Suze: But what determines how much they go up or down 239 00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:31,210 Suze: is dependent on the length of the bomb. A 30 240 00:18:31,210 --> 00:18:34,400 Suze: year bond will go up and down more depending on 241 00:18:34,410 --> 00:18:39,399 Suze: interest rates than a one year Treasury note. And many 242 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,850 Suze: of you saw that happen in the bond funds that 243 00:18:42,850 --> 00:18:47,760 Suze: you owned that had long term maturity ease in that 244 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,740 Suze: bond fund. 245 00:18:50,050 --> 00:18:53,610 Suze: Therefore I want you to remember this lesson because there 246 00:18:53,609 --> 00:18:57,600 Suze: will come a day when interest rates go up again 247 00:18:57,609 --> 00:19:02,430 Suze: in my opinion, and you can get a long term Treasury, 248 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,949 Suze: meaning 20 or 30 years for about 5.5% or so 249 00:19:08,810 --> 00:19:15,330 Suze: when that happens and eventually interest rates will come back down. 250 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,440 Suze: Not only did you lock in a great interest rate 251 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,180 Suze: on that Treasury, but as interest rates go down, the 252 00:19:23,180 --> 00:19:27,679 Suze: price of that bond will go up and up and up. 253 00:19:27,859 --> 00:19:32,040 Suze: And then you have a decision if you want. Do 254 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,780 Suze: you want to sell that bond in the open market 255 00:19:34,790 --> 00:19:37,629 Suze: and take your gain there? Like you would a stock 256 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,209 Suze: or do you just want to hold it and keep 257 00:19:41,220 --> 00:19:46,280 Suze: the 5.5% interest or whatever interested is that you locked in. 258 00:19:46,290 --> 00:19:50,570 Suze: I always go back and tell you the story about 259 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:53,950 Suze: how back in the early eighties when 30 year Treasury 260 00:19:53,950 --> 00:19:57,260 Suze: bonds were like selling for 14.5%. 261 00:19:57,740 --> 00:20:02,780 Suze: I had my clients by 30 year Treasury bonds. So 262 00:20:02,780 --> 00:20:09,020 Suze: for 30 years they would have made 14.5% interest. And 263 00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:13,369 Suze: remember Treasuries are state income tax free. 264 00:20:14,010 --> 00:20:19,220 Suze: So as interest rates went down and down and down, 265 00:20:19,230 --> 00:20:24,590 Suze: the price of those Treasuries skyrocketed. There was a time 266 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,410 Suze: when people almost could double their money 267 00:20:27,940 --> 00:20:32,950 Suze: And they sold the 30-year Treasury bonds and repurchased them 268 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,640 Suze: and locked in like a 6% yield. But on almost 269 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,510 Suze: twice the amount of money. So really 270 00:20:41,180 --> 00:20:43,990 Suze: they were making almost as much as if they had 271 00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:46,970 Suze: just kept it. So there are many things that you 272 00:20:46,970 --> 00:20:49,869 Suze: can do with Treasuries. So I want you to start 273 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:55,950 Suze: educating yourself on them. Now again, I do not have 274 00:20:55,950 --> 00:21:00,219 Suze: a problem for right now, if you do a Treasury ladder, 275 00:21:00,230 --> 00:21:03,389 Suze: maybe you buy a three month, a six month or 276 00:21:03,390 --> 00:21:07,850 Suze: one year, two year, maybe up to five years, but 277 00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:09,980 Suze: don't go out further than five, 278 00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:15,220 Suze: five years. Okay, preferably you would stick about the two 279 00:21:15,220 --> 00:21:20,680 Suze: year note length currently by the way, their pain about 4.5%. 280 00:21:20,690 --> 00:21:24,780 Suze: Which brings me to another question Many of you are 281 00:21:24,790 --> 00:21:25,950 Suze: asking me, 282 00:21:26,770 --> 00:21:36,650 Suze: you are being offered single premium deferred annuities for about 4.5% 283 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,840 Suze: and you really think that is a really great deal. 284 00:21:40,020 --> 00:21:44,330 Suze: Somebody wrote in Kimberly. You know that's you and you 285 00:21:44,330 --> 00:21:46,570 Suze: asked me the question 286 00:21:46,830 --> 00:21:51,510 Suze: That you were considering buying a single premium deferred annuity 287 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,720 Suze: with 70% of your i. r. a rollover that had 288 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,830 Suze: $1 million dollars in it. 289 00:21:59,470 --> 00:22:04,590 Suze: You had a choice of buying a 34 or five 290 00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:09,129 Suze: year single premium deferred annuity and the rates would have 291 00:22:09,130 --> 00:22:15,649 Suze: been 4.64.8 and 5% respectively. 292 00:22:16,430 --> 00:22:19,239 Suze: Now you say in this email that you know I'm 293 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,240 Suze: not a big fan of annuities. Well that's not exactly true. 294 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,399 Suze: I actually love single premium deferred annuities but it makes 295 00:22:28,410 --> 00:22:34,670 Suze: absolutely really very little sense to buy a single premium 296 00:22:34,670 --> 00:22:39,350 Suze: deferred annuity. Again an annuity is a contract with an 297 00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:40,929 Suze: insurance company 298 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,770 Suze: and as long as that money is in there, you 299 00:22:44,770 --> 00:22:48,560 Suze: do not pay income taxes on it. The income taxes 300 00:22:48,570 --> 00:22:55,110 Suze: are deferred. Also most annuities come with a surrender charge 301 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,409 Suze: which means you cannot get at your money without a 302 00:22:59,410 --> 00:23:02,740 Suze: penalty before the surrender charges up. 303 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:09,869 Suze: But to buy a single premium deferred annuity within an I. R. A. 304 00:23:09,869 --> 00:23:14,680 Suze: That is a tax deferred account doesn't make a whole 305 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:21,609 Suze: lot of sense given what interest rates currently are with treasuries. 306 00:23:21,670 --> 00:23:25,670 Suze: But this person wanted to know is this a good 307 00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:30,890 Suze: investment because she wants her investment to be safe and 308 00:23:30,890 --> 00:23:31,620 Suze: sound 309 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:37,260 Suze: what all of you have to really understand if this 310 00:23:37,260 --> 00:23:41,840 Suze: kind of investment is being proposed to you. Is that 311 00:23:41,850 --> 00:23:47,230 Suze: unlike a Treasury that is guaranteed by the authority of 312 00:23:47,230 --> 00:23:51,960 Suze: the United States government or even a certificate a deposit 313 00:23:52,510 --> 00:23:57,840 Suze: that's guaranteed by F. D. I. C. Insurance or a 314 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,490 Suze: certificate of deposit that happens to be at a credit 315 00:24:01,490 --> 00:24:05,810 Suze: union that is also insured by N. C. U. A. 316 00:24:05,890 --> 00:24:09,419 Suze: But annuities also are protected 317 00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:17,600 Suze: and regulated by nonprofit insurance guaranteed associations at the state level. 318 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:23,730 Suze: Now listen to me closely. Kimberly wanted to put 70% 319 00:24:23,740 --> 00:24:30,810 Suze: of her million dollars or $700,000 in this annuity 320 00:24:32,050 --> 00:24:38,780 Suze: annuities that are guaranteed by the state guaranteed association will 321 00:24:38,780 --> 00:24:43,680 Suze: pay claimants in the unlikely event that insurance company becomes 322 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,070 Suze: insolvent and can't pay you. But their coverage is limited 323 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Suze: and it varies by state by the way to only 324 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:58,210 Suze: $250,000 just like the N. C. U. A. And the F. D. I. C. 325 00:24:58,510 --> 00:25:03,899 Suze: So nobody under any circumstance whether it's a certificate of 326 00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:11,119 Suze: deposit or an annuity should put more than about 225,000 327 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,389 Suze: or $230,000 in there so it can earn interest and 328 00:25:15,390 --> 00:25:17,560 Suze: maybe build up to 250 329 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:24,859 Suze: 2000. But on no level should you be putting $700,000 330 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,060 Suze: into what into one company. Would I tell you that 331 00:25:30,060 --> 00:25:35,380 Suze: you were able to put $700,000 in 21 Treasury note. 332 00:25:35,380 --> 00:25:41,379 Suze: You bet. As you know myself, I have put millions 333 00:25:41,380 --> 00:25:43,990 Suze: to keep my money safe and sound 334 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,170 Suze: into one Treasury Note, I don't have a problem with 335 00:25:48,170 --> 00:25:52,350 Suze: that guaranteed by the authority of the United States government. 336 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,609 Suze: So why would any of us take a chance on 337 00:25:57,609 --> 00:26:02,310 Suze: putting more than 200 and some odd 1000 into any vehicle. 338 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:09,670 Suze: When right now, interest rates on Treasuries are seriously almost 339 00:26:09,670 --> 00:26:13,409 Suze: the same as what everybody else is offering you or 340 00:26:13,410 --> 00:26:15,130 Suze: maybe even better. 341 00:26:15,550 --> 00:26:19,150 Suze: So all of you before you do anything. I really 342 00:26:19,150 --> 00:26:22,490 Suze: want you to go and check out what is the 343 00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:28,580 Suze: current interest rates today of Treasuries and you'll find that 344 00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:31,300 Suze: one year there at 4.5%. 345 00:26:32,410 --> 00:26:37,410 Suze: Number one, number two. Remember what I just taught you. 346 00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:41,330 Suze: If you lock in a high interest rate and interest 347 00:26:41,330 --> 00:26:45,410 Suze: rates start to go down eventually the value of that 348 00:26:45,410 --> 00:26:48,660 Suze: Treasury will go up and you can sell it in 349 00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:53,080 Suze: the secondary market. Very easy to do. Especially if you 350 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,410 Suze: have an account at a discount brokerage firm 351 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:01,330 Suze: and therefore you could absolutely make money on this investment 352 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,750 Suze: again with a Treasury. What can you do? You can buy, 353 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:09,449 Suze: you can sell it anytime you want, no surrender fees, 354 00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:12,570 Suze: no danger of them defaulting on you. 355 00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:18,500 Suze: So can you just look at your alternatives? 356 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:24,210 Suze: Oh God, I'm already almost out of time. However, I 357 00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:26,859 Suze: briefly just want to tell you 358 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:31,010 Suze: what you need to know now about inherited IRAs Now 359 00:27:31,010 --> 00:27:34,619 Suze: this is a topic I could take all 30 minutes 360 00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:38,649 Suze: of this podcast up with. However, a little bit ago. 361 00:27:38,650 --> 00:27:41,570 Suze: I don't remember the exact date. I'm sorry but I 362 00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:48,330 Suze: did an extensive podcast on inherited IRAs and here is 363 00:27:48,330 --> 00:27:50,240 Suze: what you need to know. 364 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,879 Suze: There had been a law that was passed in 2019 365 00:27:55,030 --> 00:27:59,310 Suze: known as the Secure Act. And the Secure Act simply 366 00:27:59,310 --> 00:28:03,209 Suze: said you can no longer if you inherit an IRA 367 00:28:03,210 --> 00:28:08,820 Suze: a stretch that ira over your life expectancy 368 00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:12,270 Suze: the most that you could leave it in. There would 369 00:28:12,270 --> 00:28:17,510 Suze: be for 10 years now there were five exceptions to 370 00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:21,930 Suze: that rule. The five exceptions were if you were older 371 00:28:21,930 --> 00:28:25,350 Suze: or not more than 10 years younger than the person 372 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:27,910 Suze: who you had inherited the IRA from. 373 00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:31,200 Suze: If you were surviving spouse, if you are chronically ill, 374 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,210 Suze: if you were disabled you were a minor child of 375 00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:37,280 Suze: that owner of the account. And that was until you 376 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:42,240 Suze: were only 21 years of age. And those were the 377 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,880 Suze: five what they called eligible designated beneficiaries. Which means this 378 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,040 Suze: did not apply to you. Also if you inherited an 379 00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:58,010 Suze: IRA before 2020 this does not apply to you. 380 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,740 Suze: And so everybody was fine with that. They thought they 381 00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:04,990 Suze: would inherit an IRA, and they would just leave it 382 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,390 Suze: in there for 10 years and then take it out 383 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,990 Suze: if they wanted to. Then on February 23rd of this year. 384 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:19,560 Suze: The I. R. S. in its wisdom totally changed things. 385 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,990 Suze: And they said 386 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:29,810 Suze: that if you inherited an IRA a fter 2019 and the 387 00:29:29,820 --> 00:29:36,950 Suze: owner of the IRA was already taking required minimum distributions 388 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:42,370 Suze: from it or they were of age to take required 389 00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:45,520 Suze: minimum distributions but hadn't started yet 390 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:50,780 Suze: that when you inherited it you had to take out 391 00:29:50,790 --> 00:30:00,040 Suze: the required minimum distribution for 2021 as well as 2022. 392 00:30:01,230 --> 00:30:04,920 Suze: Many of you did not know about that. And if 393 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,240 Suze: you didn't take out the required minimum distribution according to 394 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,530 Suze: the I. R. S. 395 00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:16,730 Suze: They were going to assess you a 50% tax penalty 396 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:22,170 Suze: and you didn't even know about this until this year 397 00:30:22,190 --> 00:30:25,510 Suze: and you're thinking to yourself nobody told me about it. 398 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,310 Suze: So all of you and many people there was a 399 00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:31,950 Suze: total uproar about this. All right. Here's what you need 400 00:30:31,950 --> 00:30:35,440 Suze: to know on October seven of this year. 401 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:41,230 Suze: They came out with a new bill. It's called 2022-53 402 00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:46,989 Suze: which waves the 50% penalty for all of you who 403 00:30:46,990 --> 00:30:51,510 Suze: did not take out the required minimum distributions on your 404 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,930 Suze: inherited IRA, where required minimum distributions from the owner had 405 00:30:56,940 --> 00:31:01,760 Suze: already started to occur or the owner 406 00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:06,750 Suze: needed to start taking required minimum distributions because they were 407 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,490 Suze: of age to do so. 408 00:31:09,530 --> 00:31:12,450 Suze: So all of you are safe you just need to 409 00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:18,360 Suze: know about that. You don't have a 50% penalty. So that's the good news. The bad news is they're not going to come out with final regulations until 2023. 410 00:31:38,770 --> 00:31:39,140 Suze: So at that time, I will do an entire podcast on inherited IRAs and how they absolutely, definitely work and what you need to know about them. Until then, there's really only one thing that I want for you and your money, and it's for you to be safe, strong and secure. See ya Wednesday night. Bye bye, everybody.