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Speaker 1: Patrick Madrid show on relevant radio,

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Speaker 2: Buenos Dias and everybody. Good to be with you again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the Patrick Madrid show. I

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Speaker 2: share with you a great uplifting, encouraging hopeful article. This

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Speaker 2: is uh from Catholic news agency. It's about the,

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Speaker 2: the fabled Norbert community, the Saint Michael's Abbey community just

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Speaker 2: outside of uh Orange County. Well, it's in Orange County,

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Speaker 2: and I'll just share it with you. I've let me

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Speaker 2: take a step back. I've known about the Norbert Fathers

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Speaker 2: for a long time since I was about 10 years old.

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Speaker 2: And it was either that year, it was either, hm,

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Speaker 2: I grew up just like five miles from where the

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Speaker 2: the New Saint Michael's Abbey, which is outside Los Angeles in,

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Speaker 2: Um The very reverend Chris Dumberer B A er, he's

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Speaker 2: the prior of Saint Michael's Abbey. He said that it

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Speaker 2: for him, it's like heaven on earth. It's filled with

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Speaker 2: the Catholic truth and the solemn celebration of the liturgy.

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Speaker 2: It's a place to work out your salvation, to grow

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Speaker 2: Despite the recent decline in religious vocations in many parts

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Speaker 2: of the world. Saint Michael's Abbey has 42 men studying

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Speaker 2: for the priesthood and many more waiting to enter

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Speaker 2: this past summer. The order established a new priory in Springfield,

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Speaker 2: Illinois where seven of the California, no team priests now live.

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Speaker 2: Father Chris believes young men are being drawn to the

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Speaker 2: We say our prayers, we wear our religious habit. We

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Speaker 2: And that's why this uh this Norbert Father says, and

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Speaker 2: The abbey follows the Canons of the Norbert Teams which

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Speaker 2: was founded in 11 21 by Saint Norbert in France.

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Speaker 2: The order's mother abbey is called the abbey of which

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Speaker 2: strange land, a land that thinks that it's gone beyond

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Speaker 2: happy to recommend them. And Cyrus will get the link

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Speaker 2: which is, uh, um, I'm sorry, I'm to think about

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning Pat. Um Well, this is in regards

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Speaker 2: And it's all based on love.

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Speaker 2: good to hear them. Oh, no, IIII. I any advice.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Jimena now in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Jimena.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Um, I'm gonna ask you a question. I have

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Speaker 2: I want to help my grandchildren to deal with this.

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Speaker 2: No. Or, or, or they are fighting each other and

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Speaker 2: is a me that I'm back. Something that I can

440
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Speaker 2: do myself to help them to see

441
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: and to follow my example. I don't know. But it's,

442
00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 2: every time it's more difficult, it, it doesn't, it was

443
00:23:56,969 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: not happening. It never happened with my daughters. Uh, like

444
00:24:01,689 --> 00:24:05,849
Speaker 2: you say, with one little thing, they listen and they obey.

445
00:24:06,329 --> 00:24:09,530
Speaker 2: But this, the reason is like, are you talking, talking, talking,

446
00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:15,310
Speaker 2: talking and they, it doesn't think in them. I don't know.

447
00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:17,949
Speaker 2: I have a few thoughts about that. Number one is,

448
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:22,459
Speaker 2: have you shared this frustration with your son and daughter

449
00:24:22,469 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: in law or daughter and son-in-law, the parents of these Children?

450
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,729
Speaker 2: They are the ones who say I can't do it.

451
00:24:29,150 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: That's why they say they want, they are very strict,

452
00:24:33,810 --> 00:24:36,369
Speaker 2: they want to do the best for them. They try

453
00:24:36,380 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 2: to do a good job for them,

454
00:24:41,150 --> 00:24:44,060
Speaker 2: but that's good. So, so let me just jump in.

455
00:24:44,069 --> 00:24:47,139
Speaker 2: So their good parents are trying to do a good job.

456
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,020
Speaker 2: You have to be the babysitter during some times of

457
00:24:51,030 --> 00:24:51,669
Speaker 2: the day

458
00:24:52,439 --> 00:24:56,250
Speaker 2: and during the times that you're babysitting them, they are

459
00:24:56,260 --> 00:24:58,448
Speaker 2: acting up and aggravating you,

460
00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:03,329
Speaker 2: right? So tell your tell your, is it your son

461
00:25:03,339 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: and daughter-in-law or daughter and son-in-law?

462
00:25:06,589 --> 00:25:10,419
Speaker 2: Uh OK. So just tell them, listen, this isn't working out.

463
00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:13,629
Speaker 2: I love you. I love your kids. I I want

464
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,930
Speaker 2: to be there for you. But unless you get a

465
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Speaker 2: grip on these kids and make them behave or at

466
00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:22,099
Speaker 2: least put some teeth into this situation where they will,

467
00:25:22,109 --> 00:25:24,339
Speaker 2: they will be punished if they don't behave. It's driving

468
00:25:24,349 --> 00:25:25,060
Speaker 2: me crazy

469
00:25:25,660 --> 00:25:28,430
Speaker 2: and it's affecting my own mental hygiene

470
00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: and I need your support because if you, if you're,

471
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Speaker 2: if you as dad

472
00:25:35,449 --> 00:25:40,099
Speaker 2: are not going to exert some authority into this situation,

473
00:25:40,109 --> 00:25:41,780
Speaker 2: I can't, they won't listen to me.

474
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,949
Speaker 2: You know, let him know that you already did that.

475
00:25:46,829 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: And what happened?

476
00:25:49,420 --> 00:25:53,449
Speaker 2: That's why they, they control the kids control more and

477
00:25:53,459 --> 00:25:57,599
Speaker 2: they are more quiet about it. They are like hiding.

478
00:25:57,609 --> 00:26:03,849
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're feeling because this, this sounds like something, this

479
00:26:03,859 --> 00:26:06,500
Speaker 2: sounds like something beyond what I might be able to

480
00:26:06,510 --> 00:26:10,739
Speaker 2: offer advice for. Maybe the, maybe the thing to do

481
00:26:10,750 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: is to get some family counseling here

482
00:26:14,810 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: and to get these kids into, um, a counseling situation.

483
00:26:18,569 --> 00:26:21,389
Speaker 2: So this can be brought to the surface. I mean,

484
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,099
Speaker 2: let's face it. Kids, kids being kids, they tend to

485
00:26:25,109 --> 00:26:28,300
Speaker 2: be rowdy and they, you know, they're mean to their

486
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:31,609
Speaker 2: little brothers and sisters. It's a fairly common thing. It's

487
00:26:31,619 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: not like they're doing something super unusual,

488
00:26:35,459 --> 00:26:37,989
Speaker 2: but if it's driving you crazy, why don't you just

489
00:26:38,010 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: tell your son? I'm sorry. I can't, I can't watch

490
00:26:40,689 --> 00:26:43,949
Speaker 2: them anymore because it's making my life miserable. What do

491
00:26:43,959 --> 00:26:44,869
Speaker 2: you think he would say?

492
00:26:47,050 --> 00:26:52,219
Speaker 2: No, he's gonna be very upset with them because he already,

493
00:26:52,239 --> 00:26:55,910
Speaker 2: he already step up he already say to them straight.

494
00:26:55,989 --> 00:26:59,129
Speaker 2: You have to respect, you have to listen, you, you

495
00:26:59,140 --> 00:27:02,688
Speaker 2: have to because he loves you and he wants to

496
00:27:02,699 --> 00:27:05,140
Speaker 2: take care of you, but you have to listen and

497
00:27:05,150 --> 00:27:08,579
Speaker 2: obey your grandma. They are very

498
00:27:09,310 --> 00:27:13,209
Speaker 2: good in that point. They are, they are very,

499
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,609
Speaker 2: they want somebody to take care of. Now, the system

500
00:27:18,619 --> 00:27:22,889
Speaker 2: is crazy and they know if it's like that with me,

501
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:27,130
Speaker 2: imagine outside they don't care about them. All right. I,

502
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:30,489
Speaker 2: I understand exactly what you're saying. And I'm very empathetic

503
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,390
Speaker 2: to your situation. Jimena, completely empathetic to you.

504
00:27:34,089 --> 00:27:37,300
Speaker 2: So a few things I can recommend. Number one,

505
00:27:37,910 --> 00:27:42,949
Speaker 2: Doctor James Dobson has written wildly not widely widely

506
00:27:43,849 --> 00:27:46,790
Speaker 2: on this topic. He's got a number of books, one

507
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: is called Love Must Be Tough. He's got another book

508
00:27:50,449 --> 00:27:53,379
Speaker 2: called The Dare. It's called Dare To Discipline.

509
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 2: He's got another book called The Strong Will Child. I mean,

510
00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:01,349
Speaker 2: any one of these books would address some of the

511
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,989
Speaker 2: problems that you're experiencing.

512
00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 2: So the the moral to the story is his his

513
00:28:08,250 --> 00:28:12,650
Speaker 2: theory and it works is you make the situation

514
00:28:13,589 --> 00:28:16,739
Speaker 2: such that they will want to be better behaved because

515
00:28:16,750 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 2: they don't want the punishments that come when they're not

516
00:28:18,969 --> 00:28:22,339
Speaker 2: well behaved. So if, if there's a cell phone involved,

517
00:28:22,349 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: I hope there's not. But let's say that one of

518
00:28:23,890 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 2: the older kids has a cell phone. Well, that goes away,

519
00:28:27,219 --> 00:28:29,670
Speaker 2: you want to be able to use this device the tablet,

520
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,630
Speaker 2: you want to be able to watch your show on TV,

521
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,589
Speaker 2: you want to be able to play uh playstation or whatever.

522
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:37,930
Speaker 2: You don't get to do that if you are going

523
00:28:37,939 --> 00:28:43,050
Speaker 2: to act this way. So you, you employ behavior modification

524
00:28:43,060 --> 00:28:46,780
Speaker 2: techniques in a way that disciplines the kids. So they

525
00:28:46,790 --> 00:28:49,150
Speaker 2: realize that you're in charge, not them,

526
00:28:50,050 --> 00:28:51,900
Speaker 2: their parents are in charge, not them.

527
00:28:52,750 --> 00:28:57,979
Speaker 2: So, Doctor James Dobson is his name. And if you

528
00:28:57,989 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: look him up on Amazon, you'll find all of his books.

529
00:29:00,569 --> 00:29:03,339
Speaker 2: I would, I would recommend just pick one and, and

530
00:29:03,349 --> 00:29:05,469
Speaker 2: get it, start reading it and I'm sure they're in

531
00:29:05,479 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: Spanish too if you prefer to read in Spanish. But

532
00:29:08,569 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: certainly your son and daughter-in-law, you know, give them a

533
00:29:11,650 --> 00:29:12,380
Speaker 2: copy and,

534
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,910
Speaker 2: and, and that will help them focus their minds on

535
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,109
Speaker 2: how do they go about fixing the problem as opposed

536
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:20,390
Speaker 2: to just dealing with it and putting up with it.

537
00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:23,380
Speaker 2: I hope that's helpful to you. And I realized we

538
00:29:23,390 --> 00:29:26,209
Speaker 2: didn't really talk much about your own situation, going to confession.

539
00:29:26,219 --> 00:29:29,420
Speaker 2: But I, I know that the Lord understands if you're

540
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:33,150
Speaker 2: frustrated and your hands are tied and you're not getting

541
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,550
Speaker 2: the kind of support that you need from their parents. Well,

542
00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,739
Speaker 2: it's no wonder that you have these feelings or, you know,

543
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:44,790
Speaker 2: anger and frustration that if you're bringing those to confession,

544
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,650
Speaker 2: it seems that there's no wonder for that. Keep going

545
00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:48,979
Speaker 2: to confession. Obviously,

546
00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: keep doing the good things that you already do and

547
00:29:52,170 --> 00:29:55,489
Speaker 2: maybe try one of these books. Thanks. You, let's go

548
00:29:55,500 --> 00:30:00,140
Speaker 2: to Teresa now in Chicago. Hi, Teresa. Hello. Hi, Patrick.

549
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Speaker 2: I have a question about holy water. I was listening

550
00:30:02,949 --> 00:30:09,050
Speaker 2: to an audio, um, presentation on holy water and they

551
00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:12,599
Speaker 2: said that holy water is no longer exercised

552
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,489
Speaker 2: and used to be but it isn't. So, I'm wondering, well,

553
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:20,770
Speaker 2: what's that about? And should, uh, should people be asking

554
00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:24,020
Speaker 2: their priests to exercise the holy water?

555
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Yeah. Tra traditionally, yes. In fact,

556
00:30:29,530 --> 00:30:33,689
Speaker 2: in the, the longer rite of baptism before the baby

557
00:30:33,699 --> 00:30:36,250
Speaker 2: is baptized, the priest exercises the water.

558
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:40,119
Speaker 2: So that is a common custom, a traditional custom, but

559
00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:43,170
Speaker 2: it's not required in order for the water to be

560
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,619
Speaker 2: truly holy water. And you're not getting like, oh, this

561
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:52,310
Speaker 2: is the not so holy holy water. If you're busting

562
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:54,449
Speaker 2: yourself with water that has not been exercised,

563
00:30:55,089 --> 00:30:59,260
Speaker 2: um, that's not required for it to be holy water.

564
00:30:59,959 --> 00:31:03,489
Speaker 2: And if the priest is willing to use the longer formula,

565
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:05,869
Speaker 2: there is a longer formula that the priest would use

566
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,689
Speaker 2: when he blesses the water to make it holy water.

567
00:31:08,699 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: And that longer formula does include the exorcism. It's a

568
00:31:11,810 --> 00:31:12,790
Speaker 2: minor exorcism

569
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,209
Speaker 2: and, and you could just request it if you wanted to,

570
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,359
Speaker 2: to say father, when you make the holy water, could

571
00:31:19,369 --> 00:31:22,079
Speaker 2: you use this longer, more traditional formula? I wouldn't be

572
00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:23,869
Speaker 2: surprised if he says sure, happy to.

573
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,989
Speaker 2: But you don't need to be fearful of it. You

574
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,130
Speaker 2: don't need to be worried if the holy water that

575
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:32,290
Speaker 2: you dip your fingers in to make the sign of

576
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:34,790
Speaker 2: the cross. When you enter into the church, if it

577
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,130
Speaker 2: has not been exercised, it's not putting you at any risk.

578
00:31:38,369 --> 00:31:41,260
Speaker 2: If that's what you're concerned about. And, I don't know,

579
00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:43,619
Speaker 2: I just thought it was odd that, you know, well,

580
00:31:43,630 --> 00:31:48,189
Speaker 2: why isn't it exercise and should we be having exercise? Water?

581
00:31:48,199 --> 00:31:51,829
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just thought it was, uh, you know,

582
00:31:52,569 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: odd that the change was made so well, along with

583
00:31:57,890 --> 00:32:00,030
Speaker 2: a lot of other odd things that took place in

584
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,439
Speaker 2: the church after the council,

585
00:32:02,140 --> 00:32:05,949
Speaker 2: among them were, it was a tendency to kind of

586
00:32:06,619 --> 00:32:10,150
Speaker 2: minimalize, take a minimalist approach to some things

587
00:32:10,849 --> 00:32:12,989
Speaker 2: and you could see it in different ways. I mean, there,

588
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,540
Speaker 2: there was even in terms of like the new architecture

589
00:32:16,550 --> 00:32:20,609
Speaker 2: that was emerging in those days, the stripping of the altars,

590
00:32:20,619 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: the removal of statues trying to make churches look as

591
00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:28,290
Speaker 2: plain and severe as possible. That was a strange mindset

592
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:32,030
Speaker 2: that crept into the church during and after the council

593
00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: and other things too, like, let's relax the fast before

594
00:32:37,219 --> 00:32:40,319
Speaker 2: uh receiving holy communion. It used to be from midnight

595
00:32:40,329 --> 00:32:42,670
Speaker 2: on and then it went to, there might have been

596
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: an interim of certain, maybe it's five hours and then

597
00:32:45,890 --> 00:32:48,069
Speaker 2: it went to three hours. Now it's an hour before

598
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:50,930
Speaker 2: receiving holy communion. So that's what I mean, examples of

599
00:32:50,939 --> 00:32:55,010
Speaker 2: kind of minimizing things. That's a mindset that you'll find

600
00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:55,930
Speaker 2: in some cases.

601
00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:59,310
Speaker 2: But a parish priest who

602
00:32:59,969 --> 00:33:04,060
Speaker 2: is more traditional would be happy and probably already does

603
00:33:04,069 --> 00:33:05,939
Speaker 2: use the longer formula for

604
00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:07,750
Speaker 2: making holy water.

605
00:33:08,819 --> 00:33:12,709
Speaker 2: Ok. All right. I hope that's about that. Thank you.

606
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: You're welcome. I'm glad. Thank you. Why don't we take

607
00:33:15,930 --> 00:33:17,670
Speaker 2: a break and we'll come straight back to phone calls

608
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:24,989
Speaker 2: and your emails too. I got a ton of those 88891491498889149149.

609
00:33:25,130 --> 00:33:26,630
Speaker 2: I got a little bit of uh

610
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Speaker 2: drinking alcohol and marijuana news

611
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Speaker 2: in the uh upcoming segment

612
00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:38,270
Speaker 2: and it affects a particular age group and it's not

613
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Speaker 2: young people. I'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I get it. I see what you're doing. Cyrus. I,

619
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about because I'm gonna

620
00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:18,870
Speaker 2: talk about marijuana.

621
00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:23,129
Speaker 2: Oh, and that has something to do with weed as

622
00:34:23,139 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: the kids call it. Nobody called it weed. When I

623
00:34:25,370 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: was young, it was always pot.

624
00:34:27,729 --> 00:34:30,010
Speaker 2: Nobody called it weed but now you don't, nobody calls

625
00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:34,639
Speaker 2: it pot anymore. Now it's called Weed Out Far Out man. Ok.

626
00:34:34,649 --> 00:34:36,489
Speaker 2: So I get the song connection. That's good. I thought

627
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:39,049
Speaker 2: you would have played Doby Brothers. I mean, that, that's

628
00:34:39,060 --> 00:34:42,929
Speaker 2: like a more blatant three dimensional chess music call. But

629
00:34:42,939 --> 00:34:46,370
Speaker 2: you didn't, well, I didn't want to be blunt about it. Mm.

630
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:50,340
Speaker 2: Uh You're playing the game? That's good. But your, your

631
00:34:50,350 --> 00:34:53,149
Speaker 2: pun went up in smoke, I'm afraid so. I can't,

632
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 2: I cannot compete with you. All right. Here we go.

633
00:34:59,909 --> 00:35:05,350
Speaker 2: New research finds that binge drinking and marijuana use are

634
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,259
Speaker 2: higher than ever among, here's the age group, middle aged

635
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:13,100
Speaker 2: adults in the East United States. The study comes from

636
00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:17,409
Speaker 2: the University of Michigan's monitoring the future panel. It was

637
00:35:17,419 --> 00:35:20,699
Speaker 2: funded by the National Institute on drug abuse. Here's what

638
00:35:20,709 --> 00:35:21,300
Speaker 2: they found.

639
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,850
Speaker 2: They found that binge drinking and marijuana use and hallucinogenic consumption.

640
00:35:26,860 --> 00:35:30,810
Speaker 2: I presume that's what is that magic mushrooms or,

641
00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:34,819
Speaker 2: I mean, I know what hallucinogens are. I know what

642
00:35:34,830 --> 00:35:36,699
Speaker 2: they do, but I wouldn't know

643
00:35:37,389 --> 00:35:40,449
Speaker 2: because I've never taken one. I wouldn't know exactly. Maybe

644
00:35:40,459 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: they're magic mushrooms. I don't know. But marijuana

645
00:35:44,209 --> 00:35:47,379
Speaker 2: uh has reached record levels. It says

646
00:35:49,409 --> 00:35:53,629
Speaker 2: among adults between the ages of 35 and 50. Doctor

647
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: Harris Strat Strainer, a licensed New York state psychologist and

648
00:35:58,409 --> 00:36:02,469
Speaker 2: addiction specialist. He told the local uh Fox Five New

649
00:36:02,479 --> 00:36:06,199
Speaker 2: York affiliate station, I'm seeing a tremendous increase in my practice,

650
00:36:06,209 --> 00:36:08,570
Speaker 2: not only among men but among women. I think a

651
00:36:08,580 --> 00:36:10,580
Speaker 2: lot of it has to do with the relaxed laws

652
00:36:10,590 --> 00:36:11,780
Speaker 2: about marijuana.

653
00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: I also think that a lot of people are micro

654
00:36:15,010 --> 00:36:19,049
Speaker 2: dosing hallucinogens and that other people are doing it because

655
00:36:19,060 --> 00:36:20,679
Speaker 2: it goes back to their generation.

656
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: We really should play that song in the background right

657
00:36:24,370 --> 00:36:29,459
Speaker 2: now because it fits softly softly. My generation. No, not that,

658
00:36:29,469 --> 00:36:30,929
Speaker 2: that's the, that's the Who

659
00:36:32,510 --> 00:36:35,030
Speaker 2: Purple Haze man. You just played it a second ago.

660
00:36:35,590 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: What is with you?

661
00:36:38,530 --> 00:36:40,100
Speaker 2: Softly, softly.

662
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:42,820
Speaker 2: Uh He says, I also think a lot of people

663
00:36:42,830 --> 00:36:46,100
Speaker 2: are micro dosing hallucinogens and that older people are doing

664
00:36:46,110 --> 00:36:48,219
Speaker 2: it because it goes back to their generation

665
00:36:48,820 --> 00:36:53,729
Speaker 2: when they were using things like ecstasy, LSD and other hallucinogens. Oh,

666
00:36:53,739 --> 00:36:54,699
Speaker 2: that's what they mean.

667
00:36:55,739 --> 00:36:58,339
Speaker 2: He also noted that heavy drinking and drug use can

668
00:36:58,350 --> 00:37:02,780
Speaker 2: cause harm and physical harm and mental health harm. He

669
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 2: says that fat soluble substances like marijuana can affect your

670
00:37:06,489 --> 00:37:08,590
Speaker 2: heart and your cardiovascular system.

671
00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: Harry Nelson, a health care attorney and the author of

672
00:37:14,050 --> 00:37:15,679
Speaker 2: the United States of opioids.

673
00:37:16,689 --> 00:37:19,350
Speaker 2: He says that the COVID-19 pandemic may have played a

674
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,830
Speaker 2: role in this upward trend. I kind of think it

675
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,459
Speaker 2: probably did.

676
00:37:23,129 --> 00:37:26,069
Speaker 2: He says, I think there was a pandemic effect that

677
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,629
Speaker 2: the stress and isolation of COVID-19 definitely drove an upward

678
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:33,649
Speaker 2: trend and got us to the all time highs. I

679
00:37:33,659 --> 00:37:34,699
Speaker 2: see what he did there.

680
00:37:35,330 --> 00:37:37,929
Speaker 2: We have work to do on public health and education

681
00:37:37,939 --> 00:37:42,989
Speaker 2: and hopefully addressing the problems that we're facing in healthy ways. Well, yeah,

682
00:37:46,110 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: it's not good for you, man.

683
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: Were you into Cheech and Chong back in the day. Cyrus,

684
00:37:52,659 --> 00:37:56,909
Speaker 2: I have seen the first movie and I think I

685
00:37:56,919 --> 00:38:00,379
Speaker 2: had listened to one of the records but I remember

686
00:38:00,389 --> 00:38:02,658
Speaker 2: the skit about Dave's not home. Do you remember that one?

687
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,570
Speaker 2: That's off the record? I had heard that. That is

688
00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:09,649
Speaker 2: a funny skit. I didn't check into any of their

689
00:38:09,659 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: other stuff though, but, you know, they're out there promoting

690
00:38:13,050 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: the pot gummies now. I think it's a line of

691
00:38:16,330 --> 00:38:17,620
Speaker 2: chi and Chong pot gummies.

692
00:38:18,030 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 2: These guys are like 100 years old now. I bet

693
00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:23,850
Speaker 2: they're making a lot of money on it. Probably, you know,

694
00:38:23,860 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: any time I drive by the local pot dispensary

695
00:38:27,729 --> 00:38:31,449
Speaker 2: in my vicinity, it's, the parking lot is always full. Always,

696
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,429
Speaker 2: we have to drive by one on our way to

697
00:38:33,439 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 2: church on Sunday

698
00:38:35,729 --> 00:38:39,139
Speaker 2: and it's always full. The, the streets can be entirely

699
00:38:39,149 --> 00:38:43,020
Speaker 2: empty and then the parking lot for the pot dispensary

700
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:47,020
Speaker 2: 678 cars in it all the time. So

701
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:52,169
Speaker 2: I think it's, I think it's becoming bigger, more people

702
00:38:52,179 --> 00:38:55,899
Speaker 2: are consuming these things and more problems will ensue. So

703
00:38:55,909 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: my footnote to all of this is just, just say no,

704
00:38:59,459 --> 00:39:01,949
Speaker 2: hey, that's a catchy phrase. Just say no to drugs.

705
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,010
Speaker 2: Let's trademark that. What's different from when I was growing

706
00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:10,138
Speaker 2: up and when you were growing up is now there's

707
00:39:10,149 --> 00:39:12,679
Speaker 2: no smell to it because they are,

708
00:39:13,399 --> 00:39:17,550
Speaker 2: it's edible. Oh, they're in gummies. But don't they have,

709
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,780
Speaker 2: doesn't it have a kind of pot

710
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,330
Speaker 2: I don't know, a weedy kind of aroma. That's what

711
00:39:24,340 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 2: I always assumed. I've never smoked, I've never smoked, I've

712
00:39:26,969 --> 00:39:30,550
Speaker 2: never smoked marijuana. I don't think so. I don't know.

713
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,790
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been around it but I've never actually

714
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,489
Speaker 2: toked as the kids used to say I would, I'm

715
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:39,469
Speaker 2: really against vapes and I drove my mom across the

716
00:39:39,479 --> 00:39:42,429
Speaker 2: country and she was trying to quit cigarettes, which I

717
00:39:42,439 --> 00:39:44,729
Speaker 2: was really happy about. But then she had taken to

718
00:39:44,739 --> 00:39:46,109
Speaker 2: the nicotine Vape.

719
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:48,899
Speaker 2: And so I was like, don't, don't smoke that in here.

720
00:39:48,909 --> 00:39:51,969
Speaker 2: I don't want to smell it. And so when we

721
00:39:51,979 --> 00:39:54,729
Speaker 2: got done with this three day drive, she's like, I

722
00:39:54,739 --> 00:39:56,510
Speaker 2: was smoking, I was vaping the whole time in the

723
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 2: car and you had no idea.

724
00:39:58,620 --> 00:40:01,679
Speaker 2: And she's setting. Yeah. But she's sitting right next to

725
00:40:01,689 --> 00:40:05,009
Speaker 2: me and she was right. I had no idea why

726
00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:07,589
Speaker 2: because it's odorless. It was, it was, there's no odor.

727
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,389
Speaker 2: I couldn't, there's no smoke. It was going out the window,

728
00:40:10,399 --> 00:40:12,899
Speaker 2: I guess. I don't, I don't know, but she pulled

729
00:40:12,909 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: a fast one on me. And so if she can

730
00:40:14,610 --> 00:40:18,299
Speaker 2: do that with NCO Aine, I imagine what they can

731
00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:22,290
Speaker 2: do with marijuana now. So if there's no tell there's not,

732
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be on your jack. You know, you

733
00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:24,810
Speaker 2: come home and you,

734
00:40:25,169 --> 00:40:27,199
Speaker 2: you've been smoking and it's on your, you have to

735
00:40:27,209 --> 00:40:31,250
Speaker 2: take the random drug test, then you have to take

736
00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: the random drug test.

737
00:40:34,090 --> 00:40:38,469
Speaker 2: Yes. Correct. Correct, sir. Uh Well, I mean, I'm not

738
00:40:38,479 --> 00:40:41,060
Speaker 2: trying to shame anybody. No heat, no judgment, but just

739
00:40:41,070 --> 00:40:44,929
Speaker 2: common sense says, just don't do that. It's, it's bad

740
00:40:44,939 --> 00:40:47,379
Speaker 2: for you. It causes more problems than it, than it solves.

741
00:40:47,389 --> 00:40:50,009
Speaker 2: I don't know that it solves any problems. Now, if

742
00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:53,540
Speaker 2: you have glaucoma or there's some other medical need for,

743
00:40:53,550 --> 00:40:56,830
Speaker 2: for this as a treatment. I have no objection to

744
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,469
Speaker 2: that whatsoever. Please understand. I'm not saying that there can't

745
00:40:59,479 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: be a legitimate reason for using it medically. Speaking, of course,

746
00:41:03,179 --> 00:41:05,629
Speaker 2: I think I showed you Cyrus the video of a,

747
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: of a man probably about 60 if I had to guess.

748
00:41:10,149 --> 00:41:13,669
Speaker 2: And he had like out of control Parkinson's symptoms, you know,

749
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:17,530
Speaker 2: just hands shaking and moving back and forth his head,

750
00:41:17,540 --> 00:41:19,659
Speaker 2: his body, did I show you this? Did I send

751
00:41:19,669 --> 00:41:22,550
Speaker 2: this to you? It was striking they gave him was,

752
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,270
Speaker 2: it was a gummy, I think, wasn't it? They gave

753
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:30,169
Speaker 2: him a gummy and within minutes he had completely stopped shaking.

754
00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:34,189
Speaker 2: He could speak. Normally his hands, were he? In fact, he,

755
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,070
Speaker 2: he holds his hands out like palm down

756
00:41:37,939 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: and they,

757
00:41:39,209 --> 00:41:41,500
Speaker 2: they're steady. I mean, they're not shaking at all. There

758
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:42,419
Speaker 2: are no tremors.

759
00:41:43,129 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: I had never seen that before. And so I'm all

760
00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:47,949
Speaker 2: in favor of that kind of treatment. If it will

761
00:41:47,959 --> 00:41:50,310
Speaker 2: help people like this. I don't know how much, how

762
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: much time of relief it gives, but it was dramatic.

763
00:41:54,850 --> 00:41:56,549
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm looking at, I was just looking up that

764
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: video because I know you had sent it to me.

765
00:41:58,250 --> 00:42:00,339
Speaker 2: I was just gonna see how long it took, but

766
00:42:00,350 --> 00:42:02,689
Speaker 2: it is dramatic. I, I think it was like 20

767
00:42:02,699 --> 00:42:08,589
Speaker 2: minutes and then his hand completely stopped shaking and he's

768
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: able to speak full sentences.

769
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,659
Speaker 2: So almost like a different person when you see the

770
00:42:14,669 --> 00:42:19,149
Speaker 2: before and after, and they ask, they ask him if he's,

771
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,810
Speaker 2: if he's like, I'm hungry and the guy laughs. Yeah,

772
00:42:22,820 --> 00:42:25,219
Speaker 2: it was, it was a happy ending and I don't,

773
00:42:25,229 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how long that effect lasts, but I

774
00:42:28,050 --> 00:42:30,149
Speaker 2: just want to add that in there and maybe Cyrus,

775
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:31,979
Speaker 2: you can post that on Twitter for people who might

776
00:42:31,989 --> 00:42:33,870
Speaker 2: want to see that. It is, it is quite amazing

777
00:42:34,489 --> 00:42:36,750
Speaker 2: what this one gummy did for him. So I just

778
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,659
Speaker 2: want to add that for emphasis. I am opposed to

779
00:42:40,669 --> 00:42:45,060
Speaker 2: recreational use of marijuana. I mean, certainly people who go,

780
00:42:45,070 --> 00:42:48,850
Speaker 2: go out and get drunk with alcohol, same thing. But

781
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,300
Speaker 2: I do want to go on record saying that there

782
00:42:52,310 --> 00:42:58,270
Speaker 2: are medical situations where it can be a good beneficial therapy.

783
00:42:58,530 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to that, but the average guy just

784
00:43:01,129 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 2: getting high in his living room,

785
00:43:03,139 --> 00:43:05,939
Speaker 2: that's not medical marijuana, that's just getting high in your

786
00:43:05,949 --> 00:43:10,689
Speaker 2: living room. That's my take on it. 8889149149. Let's go

787
00:43:10,699 --> 00:43:16,110
Speaker 2: to Allen now in Chaska, Minnesota. Hi Alan. Hello. Sir. Hey,

788
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,790
Speaker 2: you know, I have a question as far as the

789
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,909
Speaker 2: use of marijuana and perhaps uh LSD, if a person

790
00:43:22,919 --> 00:43:26,679
Speaker 2: was really serious about it being, getting in a, uh

791
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:32,009
Speaker 2: a higher state of consciousness to uh to do prayer,

792
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,500
Speaker 2: what is that opening up a dark channel or what

793
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:38,408
Speaker 2: do you think? I think so. I think so because

794
00:43:38,419 --> 00:43:41,689
Speaker 2: one of the problems of, and I'm,

795
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,750
Speaker 2: I'm not speaking as somebody who has like clinical expertise,

796
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 2: I don't have that kind of expertise. I don't have,

797
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,449
Speaker 2: I don't have a drug history of my own to,

798
00:43:51,459 --> 00:43:55,129
Speaker 2: to even draw upon. But what I do know is

799
00:43:55,139 --> 00:43:59,109
Speaker 2: that among the problems is that those kinds of drugs,

800
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,770
Speaker 2: they dramatically lower your inhibitions.

801
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,530
Speaker 2: And so you may be in a higher state of

802
00:44:05,540 --> 00:44:10,699
Speaker 2: consciousness or, or, or you know, some super focused state

803
00:44:10,709 --> 00:44:14,750
Speaker 2: or something. But if you lower your inhibitions, not only

804
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,909
Speaker 2: can you fall into sin, but you can also be

805
00:44:18,919 --> 00:44:22,169
Speaker 2: an open portal for the devil for that matter.

806
00:44:22,979 --> 00:44:26,948
Speaker 2: Um What I understand these drugs to do is to

807
00:44:26,959 --> 00:44:29,830
Speaker 2: distort reality like LSD, for example,

808
00:44:30,580 --> 00:44:33,850
Speaker 2: dropping acid and bad acid trips and things that we've

809
00:44:33,860 --> 00:44:38,610
Speaker 2: all heard people talk about. Um it distorts reality. It can,

810
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:43,010
Speaker 2: it can lead to things like paranoia and, and exacerbate

811
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:47,590
Speaker 2: existing maybe modest mental health issues. It can greatly exacerbate

812
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,409
Speaker 2: those things.

813
00:44:49,090 --> 00:44:54,299
Speaker 2: They can open people up to suggestion and influences that

814
00:44:54,310 --> 00:44:57,379
Speaker 2: could be very, very terrible for them.

815
00:44:58,020 --> 00:45:02,070
Speaker 2: So my, my instinctive reaction is to say, no, I

816
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,870
Speaker 2: don't need an altered reality or I don't need,

817
00:45:05,649 --> 00:45:09,739
Speaker 2: you know, a higher mental state that's artificially created in

818
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:10,739
Speaker 2: order to pray,

819
00:45:11,620 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: I'll pray as best I can with all the distractions

820
00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:14,969
Speaker 2: that I have.

821
00:45:15,659 --> 00:45:20,270
Speaker 2: But to go to a synthetic opioid or some other

822
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,229
Speaker 2: type of drug to induce this altered state. I, I

823
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,370
Speaker 2: wanna stay far, far away from that.

824
00:45:26,580 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 2: Ok. Thank you. And then now I've heard some saints

825
00:45:29,969 --> 00:45:35,159
Speaker 2: being in the state of ecstasy while they pray. Now,

826
00:45:35,169 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 2: can you explain that, please? I'll try. I've never been

827
00:45:38,810 --> 00:45:41,419
Speaker 2: in that state that I'm aware of. But saints like

828
00:45:41,429 --> 00:45:45,969
Speaker 2: Saint Teresa of Avila, uh Saint Joseph of Cupertino and

829
00:45:45,979 --> 00:45:50,540
Speaker 2: many others that great saints reach a level of deep prayer.

830
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: This is what's called mental prayer

831
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:56,830
Speaker 2: where you're not saying words and you're not necessarily thinking

832
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:02,629
Speaker 2: in an, in an um intellect way about God. But

833
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:08,330
Speaker 2: you are practicing a contemplation where you are just seeing

834
00:46:08,729 --> 00:46:11,929
Speaker 2: the things of God in your mind. It's like basking

835
00:46:11,939 --> 00:46:13,669
Speaker 2: in the glow of a beautiful sunset.

836
00:46:14,530 --> 00:46:18,469
Speaker 2: And at these deeper states of prayer and ecstasy is

837
00:46:18,479 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: where as they themselves describe it, they become unaware of time,

838
00:46:22,570 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: they become completely absorbed in their love for God and

839
00:46:27,850 --> 00:46:30,060
Speaker 2: their awareness of God's love for them

840
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 2: that they just lose, they lose all track of time.

841
00:46:34,290 --> 00:46:42,060
Speaker 2: And it's an intensely beautiful, intensely, um spiritually refreshing

842
00:46:43,899 --> 00:46:45,669
Speaker 2: period of time for them.

843
00:46:46,469 --> 00:46:50,060
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's accompanied with things like levitation. I mean,

844
00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:52,209
Speaker 2: it's been known in the lives of many great saints

845
00:46:52,219 --> 00:46:56,429
Speaker 2: that when they pray and they reach that ecstasy of

846
00:46:56,439 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 2: just sheer um contact with God. I'm trying to find

847
00:47:01,489 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: the right words for this, that their bodies just levitate

848
00:47:05,830 --> 00:47:09,339
Speaker 2: Saint Joseph of Cupertino. They had to pull him down,

849
00:47:09,350 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, like put a rope around his ankle and

850
00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: pull him down to the ground because he would levitate

851
00:47:14,370 --> 00:47:15,699
Speaker 2: 34 or 5 ft in the air

852
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:19,389
Speaker 2: after mass when he was in ecstasy, after receiving holy communion.

853
00:47:19,399 --> 00:47:23,389
Speaker 2: So I'm not somebody who can explain all the specifics

854
00:47:23,399 --> 00:47:26,610
Speaker 2: about what happens in an ecstasy. But the saints who

855
00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:31,459
Speaker 2: have them tell us that it's not something for only

856
00:47:31,469 --> 00:47:34,429
Speaker 2: for a certain group of people, the deeper people go

857
00:47:34,439 --> 00:47:39,229
Speaker 2: in prayer, the more they too can experience those constellations

858
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:39,790
Speaker 2: of prayer.

859
00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:42,850
Speaker 2: So that's that much I can tell you, Alan.

860
00:47:44,350 --> 00:47:47,270
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, sir. You're welcome. Thank you

861
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,379
Speaker 2: Sa Teresa. A by the way, wrote a classic work

862
00:47:50,389 --> 00:47:53,489
Speaker 2: on the topic of spirituality in general. And she does

863
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:58,129
Speaker 2: talk about this phenomenon. It's called the Interior Castle. And

864
00:47:58,139 --> 00:48:01,159
Speaker 2: so if you ever read that book when she gets

865
00:48:01,169 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: to the innermost castle, the innermost mansion, that's where she

866
00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: talks a lot about these mystical phenomena.

867
00:48:09,770 --> 00:48:12,859
Speaker 2: Let's go now to John and Dubuque. Good morning John.

868
00:48:14,399 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: Good morning, sir. How are you? Uh Never mind. Don't

869
00:48:17,129 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: answer that.

870
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: OK. Um I just wanted to, uh, add a comment, uh,

871
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:27,290
Speaker 2: to that. Uh, I know, uh, you had said that you, uh, condone.

872
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:30,629
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the right word that you use. But, uh, uh, the,

873
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:35,270
Speaker 2: the use of, uh, marijuana for someone who, uh, needs

874
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:41,310
Speaker 2: it for pain relief and, uh, for medical, uh, situations. Um, my, uh,

875
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,689
Speaker 2: my wife for, for years has had, uh, uh, several

876
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:49,780
Speaker 2: surgeries, spinal surgeries and when she couldn't get any relief

877
00:48:49,790 --> 00:48:55,179
Speaker 2: through a pain medication prescribed, my son had,

878
00:48:57,129 --> 00:48:59,750
Speaker 2: you know, more or less uh gotten her to uh

879
00:48:59,780 --> 00:49:02,750
Speaker 2: uh use uh some gummies and stuff and I just

880
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,479
Speaker 2: want to add that she uses as minimal as possible,

881
00:49:05,489 --> 00:49:08,790
Speaker 2: even to the extent of cutting them in half if

882
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 2: she needs to just to relieve the pain. So I

883
00:49:11,290 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: just want kind of want to throw that in there. Yeah,

884
00:49:13,850 --> 00:49:16,570
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that she's suffering this way. I

885
00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:19,339
Speaker 2: imagine it's probably a great relief to you to know

886
00:49:19,350 --> 00:49:21,419
Speaker 2: that there are these things that can help her with

887
00:49:21,429 --> 00:49:21,959
Speaker 2: the pain.

888
00:49:22,889 --> 00:49:26,409
Speaker 2: Um I, I would never want to see my wife

889
00:49:26,419 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: in a situation like that and I would definitely want

890
00:49:28,850 --> 00:49:29,739
Speaker 2: to make use of

891
00:49:31,169 --> 00:49:34,500
Speaker 2: if, if, if this were necessary, if this was helpful to,

892
00:49:34,510 --> 00:49:36,679
Speaker 2: to reduce or eliminate her pain, I would be all

893
00:49:36,689 --> 00:49:38,259
Speaker 2: in favor of it. So.

894
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,699
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Thank you so much. Yeah, you're welcome. I

895
00:49:41,709 --> 00:49:46,790
Speaker 2: appreciate that. Uh We don't have time this. Let's try

896
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,070
Speaker 2: this one real quick. Uh, now we, we don't have time.

897
00:49:49,229 --> 00:49:52,299
Speaker 2: If I take your call now, then we'll run out

898
00:49:52,310 --> 00:49:53,610
Speaker 2: of time and I don't want to do that to you.

899
00:49:53,929 --> 00:49:55,949
Speaker 2: So we'll just kind of hit reset right now if

900
00:49:55,959 --> 00:49:58,290
Speaker 2: you want to call and be on the program with limitations.

901
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,659
Speaker 2: Where have I heard that before? If you, if you

902
00:50:00,669 --> 00:50:07,790
Speaker 2: want to call and be on the program? 88891491498889149149.

903
00:50:08,070 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: If you want to send me an email, go to

904
00:50:10,010 --> 00:50:12,659
Speaker 2: the show page, relevant radio dot com slash Patrick, you

905
00:50:12,669 --> 00:50:14,529
Speaker 2: can send me a note there if you want to

906
00:50:14,540 --> 00:50:17,110
Speaker 2: do it straight. They all come straight to me in

907
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,590
Speaker 2: any case. Uh Patrick at relevant radio dot com. Also,

908
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,179
Speaker 2: once again, I want to say a quick thank you

909
00:50:23,189 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: to all of you who participated in our pledge drive

910
00:50:25,770 --> 00:50:29,138
Speaker 2: last week. It was a success. Thanks to you and

911
00:50:29,149 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 2: God's mercy on us. We had a $3 million need

912
00:50:32,409 --> 00:50:34,939
Speaker 2: and we surpassed it by a couple of percentage points.

913
00:50:34,949 --> 00:50:36,259
Speaker 2: So thank you again for that.

914
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Speaker 2: If you didn't have a chance to participate because you

915
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: were traveling or otherwise occupied or preoccupied, you can always

916
00:50:43,370 --> 00:50:45,669
Speaker 2: go to relevant radio dot com or use the relevant

917
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Speaker 2: radio app and make a pledge. I think maybe today

918
00:50:48,879 --> 00:50:51,169
Speaker 2: will be the last day that will count it toward

919
00:50:51,179 --> 00:50:53,610
Speaker 2: this past week's pledge drive. So, if that's something you

920
00:50:53,620 --> 00:50:56,009
Speaker 2: want to do, the door is still open, I'll be

921
00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:58,229
Speaker 2: back with our two of the Patrick Madrid show right

922
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.