1 00:00:00,580 --> 00:00:03,540 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to Beauty IQ the podcast. 2 00:00:03,550 --> 00:00:04,950 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Joanna Fleming. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,111 Speaker 1: And I am your co host, Hannah Furst. So what is 4 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: on today's episode? 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: Ok, so today we are talking about ear wax because you've had 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,329 Speaker 2: a recent experience that you'd like to share, very kindly. And we don't have any guests today 7 00:00:22,860 --> 00:00:26,350 Speaker 2: because the guest is me. And I'm talking about how to structure a 8 00:00:26,350 --> 00:00:27,180 Speaker 2: skin care routine 9 00:00:27,620 --> 00:00:28,950 Speaker 1: A lot of people have asked about this 10 00:00:29,410 --> 00:00:32,449 Speaker 2: yeah lots of people. So yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 11 00:00:32,450 --> 00:00:34,350 Speaker 2: And then obviously our products we didn't know we needed it. 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,870 Speaker 2: Hannah started the week off a little rough. She she 13 00:00:40,870 --> 00:00:44,121 Speaker 2: had a blocked ear, and I did say to her 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,940 Speaker 2: that maybe she needed to go to the doctor and 15 00:00:45,940 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: have it checked 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,340 Speaker 1: I tried to get it out myself 17 00:00:49,930 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: We do not advise 18 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:51,820 Speaker 2: Yeah, you push it in further. 19 00:00:52,970 --> 00:00:54,150 Speaker 2: Yes, so Hannah tell us what happened. 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,850 Speaker 1: So I think that I produce a little bit more 21 00:00:58,860 --> 00:01:00,420 Speaker 1: ear wax than most people 22 00:01:00,690 --> 00:01:01,250 Speaker 1: same 23 00:01:01,250 --> 00:01:04,699 Speaker 1: Oh, well maybe we just produce a normal amount of wax... 24 00:01:05,150 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: I feel like I produce more than normal people. 25 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:12,150 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. And basically, every few years, it gets completely blocked. 26 00:01:12,209 --> 00:01:14,050 Speaker 1: I probably have to get it cleared out every two or 27 00:01:14,050 --> 00:01:14,230 Speaker 1: three years 28 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,179 Speaker 2: I've never had mine cleared out, but I really want to. 29 00:01:16,180 --> 00:01:18,750 Speaker 2: So the last time I had to get it cleared out, 30 00:01:19,590 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: I was in Thailand and because of the humidity it 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,540 Speaker 2: ended up getting super infected. And as you know, I 32 00:01:24,540 --> 00:01:26,571 Speaker 2: like to travel places where there's like, no... 33 00:01:26,860 --> 00:01:27,260 Speaker 2: no healthcare 34 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:29,819 Speaker 2: No healthcare. So I had to get a boat to the main 35 00:01:29,819 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: island and I went to like, one of those clinics 36 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,950 Speaker 2: in Ko Pha Ngan and had to go on antibiotics and they 37 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:39,819 Speaker 2: flushed out my ear. It was just an awful experience, so I 38 00:01:39,819 --> 00:01:43,370 Speaker 2: would not recommend getting it to that point. So what happened 39 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:46,970 Speaker 2: in the last few weeks is... slowly, it's just been 40 00:01:46,970 --> 00:01:49,430 Speaker 2: building up and building up, and then all of a sudden, 41 00:01:49,430 --> 00:01:52,300 Speaker 2: I stopped being able to hear out of my right ear. Well, 42 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:54,090 Speaker 2: I was trying to clear it out myself. 43 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,330 Speaker 2: I thought that you just might have had an ear infection. 44 00:01:56,340 --> 00:01:59,010 Speaker 1: No...So I was trying to clear it out, and basically 45 00:01:59,010 --> 00:02:01,101 Speaker 1: I've been doing a little bit more research on it. 46 00:02:01,110 --> 00:02:03,310 Speaker 1: What can happen is, if you're using cotton buds, you 47 00:02:03,310 --> 00:02:05,660 Speaker 1: can push the wax further in. And once it... 48 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,950 Speaker 1: haven't you seen those ads with ear stuff? And the 49 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:11,500 Speaker 1: the buds are like pushing it? Haven't you seen those? 50 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:16,421 Speaker 1: Yeah well, No. And that's basically what happened. And so I've pushed the ear wax 51 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: right into my ear and it's fully blocked. And so I 52 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,731 Speaker 1: couldn't hear anything. So this week I was like, Jo I 53 00:02:21,730 --> 00:02:24,950 Speaker 1: actually can't record the podcast because I can't hear anything 54 00:02:24,950 --> 00:02:25,410 Speaker 1: out of my ear. 55 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,300 Speaker 1: Yeah. 56 00:02:27,450 --> 00:02:30,020 Speaker 1: Anyway, So I finally went to the doctor and they had a look 57 00:02:30,020 --> 00:02:33,530 Speaker 1: in my ear and it was completely blocked. She actually said 58 00:02:33,530 --> 00:02:35,780 Speaker 1: that I had a small ear canal 59 00:02:35,790 --> 00:02:37,209 Speaker 1: which is such a compliment. Who doesn't want to hear they have small ear canals? 60 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:46,230 Speaker 1: Yeah, really sexy. That's what you want. And, so basically she... So if 61 00:02:46,230 --> 00:02:49,669 Speaker 1: you've never had a blocked ear before, this is what happens- 62 00:02:49,669 --> 00:02:52,290 Speaker 1: So you go to the doctor, they have a look in, 63 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:54,950 Speaker 1: they check that it's fully blocked and I guess not infected. 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,139 Speaker 1: Then you go to the nurse and the nurse then flushes 65 00:03:00,139 --> 00:03:03,470 Speaker 1: it out with this like, syringe. It puts quite a 66 00:03:03,470 --> 00:03:04,941 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on your ear. 67 00:03:04,940 --> 00:03:06,350 Speaker 1: Is it just a saline... in the syringe 68 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: Yes, I think so. But the only thing that you 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: need to do, if you go to the doctor with 70 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,940 Speaker 1: a blocked ear, you have to use that Waxsol stuff for three 71 00:03:16,940 --> 00:03:17,951 Speaker 1: nights before 72 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,171 Speaker 1: and you were already using that weren't you? 73 00:03:19,570 --> 00:03:21,910 Speaker 1: So I have.. because I've already had it done before. I 74 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: had been using it for three nights, but only my 75 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,389 Speaker 1: right ear. And then they looked in my left ear 76 00:03:25,389 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: and they're like 'um, your left is almost blocked too' 77 00:03:29,940 --> 00:03:32,510 Speaker 1: No wonder she's... Whenever you say anything to her she's like 'What?' She could never hear anything. 78 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: Well, the left ear was also partially blocked. So they tried. 79 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:36,450 Speaker 1: Ok. That explains a lot. 80 00:03:36,790 --> 00:03:39,300 Speaker 1: Yes. So they tried to get the left one, but they 81 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:43,090 Speaker 1: couldn't because it wasn't soft enough. So...yeah so just make 82 00:03:43,090 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: sure that if you're going to go to the doctor 83 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,210 Speaker 1: to get your ears flushed out, you need to... 84 00:03:46,210 --> 00:03:46,951 Speaker 1: Do you have to lay down? 85 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,620 Speaker 1: No, you sit up. You just hold like, a thing under your chin 86 00:03:49,620 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: Ohh. You know what I was pissed off about guys? She didn't even take a photo of all the gunk that came out of her ear. 87 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,420 Speaker 1: honestly I couldn't. It was too embarrassing. Like honestly, that's my limit. 88 00:03:59,340 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Hannah, you know I love this stuff. It's the one thing you could have done for me. 89 00:04:01,180 --> 00:04:03,410 Speaker 1: Actually, what she said to me was, she was like, 90 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:04,650 Speaker 1: 'Do you want to have that?' Most people want to 91 00:04:04,650 --> 00:04:07,190 Speaker 1: see what came out of the ear and I was like, 'Yeah'. 92 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: So quite a lot of like wax had come out 93 00:04:10,130 --> 00:04:13,330 Speaker 1: of the right ear. It's kind of floating around in the water. 94 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:13,900 Speaker 1: Delicious. 95 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: Pretty gross. Yeah so, but the thing that I wanted to 96 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: say was that she, the nurse, recommended she said, It's 97 00:04:22,570 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: actually because of... because it's been happening more regularly for me what 98 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:33,420 Speaker 1: she recommended was a ear suction place. So you can... Yeah so there's these places... 99 00:04:34,050 --> 00:04:34,500 Speaker 1: Love the sound of that 100 00:04:34,980 --> 00:04:37,220 Speaker 1: Yeah so they've gotten... and what they can do is they 101 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: can actually look inside your ear and suction out all of 102 00:04:40,970 --> 00:04:43,089 Speaker 1: the wax because she said, what happens is we're going 103 00:04:43,089 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: in blind, so we're just like pushing water in there and 104 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,550 Speaker 1: we're not getting it all out. So the nurse recommended 105 00:04:48,550 --> 00:04:53,089 Speaker 1: this place where they suction out all your ear wax. So go to your 106 00:04:53,089 --> 00:04:54,891 Speaker 1: doctor and have it... If you struggle with ear wax 107 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:55,391 Speaker 2: I've watched videos of that before. 108 00:04:56,460 --> 00:04:57,849 Speaker 2: Have you? I haven't 109 00:04:57,860 --> 00:05:00,940 Speaker 2: Yeah I've always loved to watch these videos on facebook of like, really gross stuff 110 00:05:00,950 --> 00:05:01,831 Speaker 2: like pimple popper? 111 00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:04,570 Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's not even gross enough for me. I want to 112 00:05:04,570 --> 00:05:07,180 Speaker 2: see someone get like, a bird eating spider out of their ear 113 00:05:07,190 --> 00:05:08,210 Speaker 1: You've got some weird fetishes 114 00:05:09,050 --> 00:05:09,730 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 115 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: I think next time I'm going to do is actually 116 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: go to the ear suction place. Apparently, they... it's much more effective 117 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: at getting all the wax out of your ear. 118 00:05:17,570 --> 00:05:18,550 Speaker 2: That's good to know. 119 00:05:18,540 --> 00:05:22,870 Speaker 2: The other thing that we've both talked about... We were at our desks 120 00:05:23,070 --> 00:05:25,109 Speaker 2: the other day, and I'm like, 'Do you get like, 121 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,380 Speaker 2: heaps of wax built up on your airpods?' 122 00:05:27,390 --> 00:05:33,910 Speaker 2: Yeah I think it's cause we've both got really waxy ears. And we both have Airpods cause we're bougie bitches. And we can't clean our Airpods. Biggest first world problem you could possibly have. 123 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:40,979 Speaker 1: I know. So, Joanna and I talked about this a lot, about the fact 124 00:05:40,980 --> 00:05:47,620 Speaker 1: that we have waxy Airpods so the other thing about Airpods is that 125 00:05:47,620 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: they're pushing the wax further into your ears. So that 126 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,461 Speaker 1: might be another thing I used to use, like wireless 127 00:05:55,460 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: headphones 128 00:05:56,420 --> 00:05:56,660 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're probably better. 129 00:05:57,580 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: They're probably better. But I just love the Airpods 130 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:00,951 Speaker 1: Same. 131 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,820 Speaker 1: So the way to clean the Airpods is with a toothbrush. 132 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: Can't you just put like... like what if you just get an ear 133 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,540 Speaker 1: bud and put some micellar water on the end.. 134 00:06:11,870 --> 00:06:12,100 Speaker 1: no... 135 00:06:13,010 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: Like, without turning the Airpod upside down. 136 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,670 Speaker 1: No, don't do that. I don't think Apple would recommend using micellar water 137 00:06:16,779 --> 00:06:18,670 Speaker 1: No, but not like, not drench it just a tiny bit to make it moist 138 00:06:19,150 --> 00:06:23,490 Speaker 1: Um, Joanna I think you should stick to skin care advice, not technical advice. 139 00:06:23,650 --> 00:06:28,940 Speaker 1: Please go to your Apple shop to ask for correct advice on how to clean 140 00:06:28,940 --> 00:06:29,510 Speaker 1: your Apple Airpods. 141 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: Don't blame me if you ruin your Airpods. 142 00:06:32,270 --> 00:06:34,341 Speaker 1: I actually think, I looked on the website and it was...you use a toothbrush. 143 00:06:34,350 --> 00:06:34,850 Speaker 1: Is that what they said? 144 00:06:36,850 --> 00:06:40,270 Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. I think we're getting into bad territory now. 145 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,669 Speaker 1: I don't think Apple would say that. 146 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:43,989 Speaker 1: I think we should not give medical advice and also 147 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:47,409 Speaker 1: not give advice on your tech. 148 00:06:47,420 --> 00:06:48,250 Speaker 1: We apologise 149 00:06:49,940 --> 00:06:54,510 Speaker 1: Yes. If you... If you struggle with wax, just remember 150 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: that if you get a fully blocked ear, make sure you 151 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: use the Waxsol and then go to the doctor and 152 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,529 Speaker 1: get it flushed out. But an alternative... 153 00:07:00,540 --> 00:07:01,310 Speaker 1: I think that was medical advice. 154 00:07:01,730 --> 00:07:02,110 Speaker 1: Sorry 155 00:07:02,110 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: We just said we weren't going to... 156 00:07:04,490 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: But you do need to get a doctor. But the 157 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,420 Speaker 1: other option that I've just found out that I'm going 158 00:07:09,420 --> 00:07:11,950 Speaker 1: to do is get it suctioned out. I'm really excited for my next block ear. 159 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:14,530 Speaker 2: and you're going to film it or I'm going to come. 160 00:07:14,540 --> 00:07:17,260 Speaker 1: You'll have to come to film it. We'll just be like, 161 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:21,170 Speaker 1: 'I've got my friend, can she come in, she's just filming. We do a podcast'. 162 00:07:21,180 --> 00:07:22,250 Speaker 1: She wants to watch this later at home 163 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,170 Speaker 1: I had a friend message me. She's been listening to 164 00:07:31,170 --> 00:07:35,660 Speaker 1: the podcast and she had a question which was 'I 165 00:07:35,660 --> 00:07:38,730 Speaker 1: just always feel a bit confused about the right skin 166 00:07:38,730 --> 00:07:41,850 Speaker 1: care routine. What products do you need in your thirties, 167 00:07:41,860 --> 00:07:44,090 Speaker 1: what order to apply them in and what to spend your 168 00:07:44,090 --> 00:07:48,060 Speaker 1: money on on?' I guess I thought routines was such 169 00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: a basic topic, but really, it's probably the most important topic 170 00:07:51,830 --> 00:07:54,750 Speaker 2: Yeah I said to Hannah 'Can we do routine?' She was like 'No, boring'. 171 00:07:54,740 --> 00:07:59,550 Speaker 1: I just get saying 'No, no, no, not doing it'. But actually 172 00:07:59,550 --> 00:08:00,170 Speaker 1: I think it's really... 173 00:08:00,740 --> 00:08:02,151 Speaker 1: I hear you guys. I'm here to help. 174 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah I feel like you're more in touch with the consumers than I am. 175 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,410 Speaker 1: I am. 176 00:08:05,410 --> 00:08:09,030 Speaker 1: I'm just like, 'What do I want to know?'. So this is, 177 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,130 Speaker 1: I think a really good topic, to talk about skincare routine. 178 00:08:12,130 --> 00:08:15,940 Speaker 1: I think that if you have specific concerns like pigmentation 179 00:08:15,940 --> 00:08:19,380 Speaker 1: or acne, we have already covered that off or we 180 00:08:19,380 --> 00:08:21,670 Speaker 1: will be covering that off later and the podcast. So really, 181 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:26,100 Speaker 1: we're going to focus on a really basic standard anti 182 00:08:26,100 --> 00:08:30,430 Speaker 1: ageing routine, that if you're in your late twenties or early thirties or older, 183 00:08:30,430 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: and haven't got onto an anti ageing skincare routine. This 184 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,580 Speaker 1: hopefully will be really helpful to you. So, why don't you start with the basics 185 00:08:38,809 --> 00:08:44,100 Speaker 1: So I want to start off talking about how to structure a routine because I often 186 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:46,910 Speaker 1: get questions about where the... 'I've bought this new product and 187 00:08:46,910 --> 00:08:48,270 Speaker 1: I don't know where to put it in my routine 188 00:08:48,270 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: and when do I apply it?' So the lens that I 189 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,291 Speaker 1: like to apply, and the analogy that I use is 190 00:08:53,290 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: that your cleanser and your sunscreen are the bookends to 191 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,990 Speaker 1: your routine. So if you don't have either of these 192 00:08:57,990 --> 00:09:01,699 Speaker 1: two essential products, everything else in the middle can't be 193 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:04,630 Speaker 1: as effective. So those two products of the most important 194 00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:06,910 Speaker 1: things in your routine. Because if you're not cleansing a 195 00:09:06,910 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: skin properly, those serums you're applying afterwards can't be as effective. 196 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,590 Speaker 1: And if you're not using a sunscreen, you're then exposing 197 00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:16,590 Speaker 1: your skin to more damage. So those two were the most 198 00:09:16,590 --> 00:09:18,500 Speaker 1: important things to start with, and then you can start 199 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:20,709 Speaker 1: to build out your routine in the middle. So my 200 00:09:20,710 --> 00:09:22,801 Speaker 1: advice for building out the routine in the middle is 201 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: to become a bit more familiar with ingredients and products 202 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,179 Speaker 1: that are targeted to your skin concerns. Forget what influences 203 00:09:30,179 --> 00:09:33,309 Speaker 1: are talking about. Forget what I'm using. We don't have 204 00:09:33,309 --> 00:09:37,090 Speaker 1: the same skin type. Do your own research if you can, 205 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:40,041 Speaker 1: and go back to Episode one if you need to, there's 206 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: a lot of chatter about ingredients in there that will 207 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,270 Speaker 1: help you to kind of narrow down the products that 208 00:09:44,270 --> 00:09:46,620 Speaker 1: are suitable for you and the concerns that you want 209 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:47,950 Speaker 1: to target with your routine. 210 00:09:48,140 --> 00:09:50,330 Speaker 1: And so, in this episode, I think we really want 211 00:09:50,330 --> 00:09:53,181 Speaker 1: to focus on- Let's talk about anti ageing and the 212 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:56,790 Speaker 1: standard anti-ageing, without going crazy. Like this person doesn't want 213 00:09:56,790 --> 00:09:59,850 Speaker 1: a 10 step routine. They don't want to use five 214 00:09:59,850 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: different serums, and they don't want to rotate everything. So what 215 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: would you recommend as like a really basic anti ageing 216 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,660 Speaker 1: routine in between their cleanser and their SPF. 217 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:12,370 Speaker 2: I don't recommend a ten step routine. I don't think that's 218 00:10:12,370 --> 00:10:14,811 Speaker 2: necessary for anyone. I think that's what people get scared 219 00:10:14,809 --> 00:10:17,510 Speaker 2: off by when starting on skin care. You really don't 220 00:10:17,510 --> 00:10:19,609 Speaker 2: need to complicate it that much. You just need a 221 00:10:19,610 --> 00:10:21,500 Speaker 2: few key things that are really targeted 222 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: just really quickly, don't you think also, if they... say 223 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,030 Speaker 1: they introduce a couple of the products that you're going 224 00:10:26,030 --> 00:10:29,700 Speaker 1: to talk about now. I, from my experience, and from 225 00:10:29,740 --> 00:10:33,369 Speaker 1: people that I know, they basically get... they introduce a 226 00:10:33,370 --> 00:10:36,730 Speaker 1: couple of really effective products then they're like 'oh I want to learn more 227 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: about this now' 228 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:37,850 Speaker 1: absolutely. 229 00:10:37,850 --> 00:10:40,489 Speaker 1: And then they start to do their own research afterwards. And 230 00:10:40,490 --> 00:10:42,510 Speaker 1: then that's when the whole interest starts to ignite 231 00:10:43,090 --> 00:10:46,090 Speaker 2: Exactly. You've got to show them that they can get results. Yes, 232 00:10:46,100 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: because they're probably used to using supermarket or chemist skin 233 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,100 Speaker 2: care and they're not seeing those amazing results that you 234 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: can get from active ingredients. So I think once they're 235 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,650 Speaker 2: seeing those results, they're much more open to going 'Oh 236 00:10:56,650 --> 00:10:59,110 Speaker 2: my God, what do I need next'. So I think starting 237 00:10:59,110 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: off small and then going from there. 238 00:11:00,929 --> 00:11:01,901 Speaker 2: Very good advice. 239 00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:05,340 Speaker 2: So when it comes to products to use in an 240 00:11:05,340 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: anti ageing skin care routine if you're starting off- I would always say vitamin 241 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,460 Speaker 2: C in the morning with your sunscreen, and then at 242 00:11:13,460 --> 00:11:17,630 Speaker 2: night you would be probably rotating a retinol and a B 243 00:11:17,630 --> 00:11:20,340 Speaker 2: serum or a HA serum and then have a good night 244 00:11:20,340 --> 00:11:23,750 Speaker 2: cream as well and obviously an eye cream, so that's 245 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:25,850 Speaker 2: not too many products. As long as you've got your 246 00:11:25,850 --> 00:11:29,819 Speaker 2: cleanser and your sunscreen in there as well. That should kind 247 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:31,100 Speaker 2: of get you pretty good results 248 00:11:31,100 --> 00:11:36,510 Speaker 1: and our guest on episode two he said, he's a scientist, 249 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,830 Speaker 1: and he said that he called it CSA- Vitamin C, Vitamin 250 00:11:39,830 --> 00:11:42,709 Speaker 1: A and SPF. He actually made a really good point, 251 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: which is, if you want to look 40 at 50 start 252 00:11:45,370 --> 00:11:47,819 Speaker 1: using this at 30. Was that what he said? 253 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,179 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. 254 00:11:49,340 --> 00:11:49,900 Speaker 1: Something along those lines. 255 00:11:51,450 --> 00:11:52,811 Speaker 1: Something like that. You can look like J.Lo 256 00:11:54,410 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, just, look like J.lo. Like go back to Episode two, he had a really, the 257 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,020 Speaker 1: way that he described it really- it'll sell you. And 258 00:12:01,020 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: then if you don't get any other products, you start 259 00:12:04,170 --> 00:12:09,910 Speaker 1: on those three SPF vitamin C Vitamin A. And see what happens. The 260 00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: world will be your oyster. 261 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:16,051 Speaker 1: And I know that people listening to this are probably like, 'So what do I buy then?' So 262 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:18,470 Speaker 1: the kit that I recommend to a lot of people 263 00:12:18,470 --> 00:12:21,150 Speaker 1: and I just recommended it to one of my really 264 00:12:21,150 --> 00:12:22,740 Speaker 1: good friends and she's been using it for quite a 265 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:26,479 Speaker 1: few weeks now is the asap platinum collection. That's got all 266 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,179 Speaker 1: of their serums and their night cream and a moisturiser, 267 00:12:29,179 --> 00:12:31,780 Speaker 1: and there's a limited edition pack that has the eye 268 00:12:31,780 --> 00:12:34,311 Speaker 1: serum as well. So she had been using that for 269 00:12:34,309 --> 00:12:36,561 Speaker 1: a week. She sent me a before and after, and she 270 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,209 Speaker 1: was like, 'Oh my God, look how radiant I am. Look 271 00:12:39,210 --> 00:12:41,590 Speaker 1: at my under eyes'. Like she couldn't believe it, but 272 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:44,390 Speaker 1: she'd never used good quality skin care before. So you 273 00:12:44,390 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: also recommended that to your sister 274 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,541 Speaker 1: I did. So I....we actually, we've never spoken about this before was the platinum collection. 275 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:56,270 Speaker 1: We genuinely have both recommended this to friends and family. 276 00:12:56,270 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: So my sister, she wanted to. She's like, 'I'm ready, 277 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,390 Speaker 1: I'm ready for better skin care'. And so I said, 278 00:13:03,390 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: I think you should get this pack because she- basically 279 00:13:06,809 --> 00:13:10,350 Speaker 1: the pack comes with a little sheet that says, AM PM, 280 00:13:10,740 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: an alternate nights and it's so clear, it doesn't talk 281 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,551 Speaker 1: about ingredients, and it's really, really clear. 282 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,429 Speaker 1: It's fool proof. 283 00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:21,051 Speaker 1: Totally. You cannot stuff this up people. And, also it's 284 00:13:21,050 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: really high quality skin care. Asap is one of Joanna's favourite brands. 285 00:13:24,410 --> 00:13:27,030 Speaker 1: I also love the brand. The only thing that you'll need 286 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:31,230 Speaker 1: is a cleanser and also an SPF. But basically everything 287 00:13:31,230 --> 00:13:35,390 Speaker 1: that you need is in that kit with a instruction manual. 288 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,730 Speaker 1: So I would recommend that to anyone that's just like 'I 289 00:13:38,730 --> 00:13:41,550 Speaker 1: don't care. I don't know just whatever', and that's a 290 00:13:41,550 --> 00:13:44,370 Speaker 1: really good one. But I think a couple of other products, 291 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,730 Speaker 1: if you just wanted to get individual products. I think 292 00:13:46,730 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: the vitamin C that we always recommend is C E Ferulic. 293 00:13:50,809 --> 00:13:51,970 Speaker 2: Yep. I really like Dermalogica BioLumin-C as well. 294 00:13:53,620 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: I actually Aspect Extreme C. 295 00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:56,551 Speaker 1: Oh, do you? 296 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,100 Speaker 1: Yes I do, I mix that with my new pigmentation products for all my sun damage 297 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:04,370 Speaker 2: Actually- something that I want to mention if you do 298 00:14:04,370 --> 00:14:07,270 Speaker 2: buy the platinum pack is to mix the asap C with 299 00:14:07,270 --> 00:14:10,641 Speaker 2: the B serum. Because that's something that people are like 'oh 300 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,390 Speaker 2: the C serum, it's just pilling on my skin'. You need to mix 301 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:14,140 Speaker 2: it with the B. That is my trick. 302 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:14,910 Speaker 1: I always mix my B and my C. 303 00:14:15,670 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Good. Oh, proud of you. 304 00:14:18,010 --> 00:14:22,260 Speaker 1: Yeah, always. I... It's called cocktailing. Serum cocktailing. 305 00:14:23,570 --> 00:14:25,431 Speaker 1: oh my goodness. It's a new Hannah. Who is this girl? Get her out of the room. 306 00:14:30,250 --> 00:14:32,980 Speaker 1: didn't you see my instagram story on Friday night? it was like 10 p.m. 307 00:14:32,980 --> 00:14:35,270 Speaker 1: And I was like... it was like, I had a 308 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,740 Speaker 1: new instructions- my new skin care routine that Aspect have 309 00:14:37,740 --> 00:14:39,550 Speaker 1: given me for my sun damage and it was like 310 00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:44,181 Speaker 1: cocktailing on a Friday. I was mixing the serums together. So yes, 311 00:14:44,180 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: now we've talked about you can mix the serums together, 312 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,100 Speaker 1: talk us through layering 313 00:14:48,110 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: OK, so when you are layering products, and I get 314 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,290 Speaker 2: a lot of questions about this too, use the framework 315 00:14:55,370 --> 00:15:00,300 Speaker 2: of applying it lightest to heaviest. This goes across your whole routine. 316 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:02,811 Speaker 2: So what I mean by that is you apply your 317 00:15:02,810 --> 00:15:06,301 Speaker 2: water based serums and things first than any oil products 318 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:09,141 Speaker 2: and then your creams. So a trick for me though, 319 00:15:09,140 --> 00:15:12,300 Speaker 2: is that I actually mix my facial oil with my 320 00:15:12,310 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: moisturiser because I don't like the feeling of dry oils 321 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,330 Speaker 2: on my skin. So I like to mix them, mix 322 00:15:18,330 --> 00:15:20,010 Speaker 2: it in my hands and then apply it. And then 323 00:15:20,010 --> 00:15:21,911 Speaker 2: you don't get that oily finished that you can get 324 00:15:21,910 --> 00:15:22,780 Speaker 2: from using a facial oil. 325 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: I find facial oils pill on my skin 326 00:15:25,130 --> 00:15:27,940 Speaker 2: Yeah, same. But I don't have any issues with it when 327 00:15:27,940 --> 00:15:28,610 Speaker 2: I mix it in with my moisturiser 328 00:15:28,610 --> 00:15:32,620 Speaker 1: I am going to try that. I have this really nice facial oil sitting at home that 329 00:15:32,620 --> 00:15:33,580 Speaker 1: just never gets used. 330 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:36,021 Speaker 2: I love a facial oil, but I have to mix it 331 00:15:36,020 --> 00:15:40,860 Speaker 2: with moisturiser. It's usually Phytostat 9. And then when it comes to sunscreen 332 00:15:40,860 --> 00:15:43,350 Speaker 2: that is always the last step in your skin care 333 00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:45,590 Speaker 2: routine before you will apply makeup. 334 00:15:46,590 --> 00:15:48,450 Speaker 1: So this morning, I actually ran into a little bit of a 335 00:15:48,450 --> 00:15:53,010 Speaker 1: routine issue where I... don't usually use a tinted moisturiser. 336 00:15:53,020 --> 00:15:56,270 Speaker 1: But today for some reason I decided to and I 337 00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:59,870 Speaker 1: put on my I put on my last serum then 338 00:15:59,870 --> 00:16:04,050 Speaker 1: I put on the tinted moisturiser and was like, 'Oh, wait, 339 00:16:04,060 --> 00:16:06,770 Speaker 1: should I put...?' and then I was confused. And so I just 340 00:16:06,770 --> 00:16:08,911 Speaker 1: didn't put SPF on and then I'm in the car and 341 00:16:08,910 --> 00:16:13,060 Speaker 1: the suns on my face. 23 degrees today, suns on my face. 342 00:16:13,070 --> 00:16:14,490 Speaker 1: Naughty. What were you thinking? 343 00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:17,940 Speaker 1: I actually freaked out because now, if I don't have SPF on 344 00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:22,850 Speaker 1: and the sun hits my right eye in the car, I'm like 'nooo!' And I... 345 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,010 Speaker 1: you know the visor on your car I have to 346 00:16:28,010 --> 00:16:30,790 Speaker 1: move it like every time I turn a corner I move it 347 00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:33,510 Speaker 1: and turned back, move it, so that the sun does not 348 00:16:33,510 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: hit my face. I become crazy. 349 00:16:34,210 --> 00:16:38,590 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want any sun. I feel like getting into skin care and SPF makes 350 00:16:38,590 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: you crazy. 351 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: It does. 352 00:16:40,130 --> 00:16:45,020 Speaker 2: But in a good way. So in that situation, your sunscreen should 353 00:16:45,020 --> 00:16:49,340 Speaker 2: have come prior to your tinted moisturiser because the tinted moisturiser 354 00:16:49,340 --> 00:16:51,980 Speaker 2: has a pigment in it like a foundation does. So 355 00:16:51,980 --> 00:16:53,910 Speaker 2: you should put your SPF phone before that. 356 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,561 Speaker 1: When do you apply your eye cream? 357 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,130 Speaker 2: So this is... it's a topic of contention because... 358 00:17:00,140 --> 00:17:02,690 Speaker 1: and I also want to say I didn't know this until 359 00:17:02,690 --> 00:17:05,300 Speaker 1: a few months ago. You actually shouldn't put your active 360 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: serums around your eye unless they're specifically formulated for the eye area. 361 00:17:09,609 --> 00:17:11,831 Speaker 2: And I'm naughty and probably do take them a bit 362 00:17:11,830 --> 00:17:14,899 Speaker 2: too close. But it does depend on the formula of 363 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: your eye creams, So if you're using a cream, gel or a serum. 364 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,290 Speaker 2: You know, you kind of applied in the order of 365 00:17:20,290 --> 00:17:22,710 Speaker 2: how you would play your other products. So if I'm 366 00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: using a really light weight eye serum, I would probably 367 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,291 Speaker 2: apply that at the same time that I do my 368 00:17:28,290 --> 00:17:31,429 Speaker 2: other serums, like at the end before I put on moisturiser. 369 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: But if I'm using a cream based product, I would 370 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,109 Speaker 2: apply that after I've done my moisturiser. So that wraps 371 00:17:37,109 --> 00:17:40,570 Speaker 2: up our chat about structuring and layering. But if you 372 00:17:40,570 --> 00:17:42,420 Speaker 2: do you have any other questions, you can always hit us 373 00:17:42,420 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: up @AdoreBeauty on insta. 374 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: and also you may not know this, but the Adore 375 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: Beauty customer service team is always there if you're actually confused 376 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,030 Speaker 1: about what serum should I get for my skin 377 00:17:52,030 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: They're actually really highly trained in skin care, so if 378 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,621 Speaker 2: you've got like, 'I really need a routine , I don't 379 00:17:56,619 --> 00:17:58,929 Speaker 2: know what to use', One of those questions, you can 380 00:17:58,930 --> 00:18:00,810 Speaker 2: just shoot us an email and they literally give you 381 00:18:00,810 --> 00:18:02,121 Speaker 2: a routine so yeah... 382 00:18:02,369 --> 00:18:03,660 Speaker 2: live chat on the site. 383 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: So this weeks products we didn't know we needed 384 00:18:12,910 --> 00:18:15,350 Speaker 1: Can I say that we both choose, random products every 385 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:18,531 Speaker 1: single week. There's like, never a theme anymore 386 00:18:18,540 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we started with a theme and we were like 'f**k it'let's just talk about shit we use. 387 00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:27,130 Speaker 2: So you talk about tan a lot, so I wanted to talk 388 00:18:27,130 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 2: about my favourite face tan because we have differing products 389 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,850 Speaker 2: that we use. So my favourite is the EcoTan face water. 390 00:18:34,340 --> 00:18:38,460 Speaker 2: It's almost like a toner like it 's literally water, 391 00:18:38,690 --> 00:18:42,060 Speaker 2: but it's a gradual tanner. So I put my moisturiser 392 00:18:42,060 --> 00:18:43,770 Speaker 2: down and then I apply that over the top with a cotton pad 393 00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: over the top of moisturiser? 394 00:18:46,910 --> 00:18:50,550 Speaker 2: I find it goes on evenly, so if I don't put moisturiser on and just put it 395 00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:52,910 Speaker 2: straight onto my skin I find it gets a bit 396 00:18:52,910 --> 00:18:55,950 Speaker 2: patchy and like, kind of doesn't look quite right the 397 00:18:55,950 --> 00:18:58,660 Speaker 2: next day. I put moisturiser down first and then I 398 00:18:58,660 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: swipe it on with a cotton pad. 399 00:19:00,290 --> 00:19:01,420 Speaker 1: Is that after all your serums though? 400 00:19:02,020 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 2: I don't really... on the nights that I...I don't use it that regularly, I just do my 401 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,850 Speaker 2: moisturiser and then I do my tan. 402 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,861 Speaker 1: What would you recommend, though... So I've been thinking of starting 403 00:19:10,859 --> 00:19:12,670 Speaker 1: to use a gradual tanner every day, and I have 404 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,550 Speaker 1: the EcoTan one, can you put serums on over it? 405 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,930 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be as effective because I'm 406 00:19:19,930 --> 00:19:23,730 Speaker 1: thinking like when you use a instant tan like a 407 00:19:23,730 --> 00:19:29,111 Speaker 1: two hour like Loving Tans 2Hr, after your first shower, you don't moisturise because 408 00:19:29,109 --> 00:19:32,379 Speaker 1: it affects the development of the tan so that's why 409 00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:34,260 Speaker 1: I don't do it. I don't apply anything over the 410 00:19:34,260 --> 00:19:36,910 Speaker 1: top because I figure, like- How's it going to develop 411 00:19:36,910 --> 00:19:39,841 Speaker 1: if it's got all these other active ingredients over the top of it? So that's 412 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,619 Speaker 1: why I do it the way I do. And then I just 413 00:19:42,619 --> 00:19:44,821 Speaker 1: come back like an hour later and apply a little 414 00:19:44,820 --> 00:19:46,209 Speaker 1: bit more. And then I got a bed and then 415 00:19:46,210 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: I wake up looking a bit glowy. I've got it on today. I'm not wearing any foundation. 416 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,291 Speaker 1: It's probably too pale for me. 417 00:19:52,430 --> 00:19:53,700 Speaker 2: I'm really pale. You aren't as pale. 418 00:19:54,220 --> 00:19:55,851 Speaker 2: translucent 419 00:19:56,369 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: I didn't use to be, but I don't go in 420 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,571 Speaker 2: the sun anymore so... But it's enough for me to notice 421 00:20:03,570 --> 00:20:06,710 Speaker 2: that it's a little bit deeper than my natural skin tone. 422 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:08,611 Speaker 1: I actually know when you've got fake tan on because 423 00:20:08,609 --> 00:20:10,940 Speaker 1: you've got a bit of a... you look alive. 424 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:13,130 Speaker 1: Thanks 425 00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:19,100 Speaker 1: you don't look like a ghost. Someone actually told me the other night like, 'How old is Joanna' And 426 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:21,619 Speaker 1: I was like, 'she's 26'. She's like 'Oh my God, she looks so young'. Anyway, 427 00:20:21,619 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: it was about the fact that you would look translucent. 428 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So I look like a vampire. 429 00:20:26,010 --> 00:20:26,970 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you do. 430 00:20:27,690 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: That's okay, I'll take that. Anyway now for your product 431 00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:34,611 Speaker 1: So for the product that I didn't know I needed- 432 00:20:34,609 --> 00:20:37,310 Speaker 1: I have been talking about hair care a lot lately. 433 00:20:37,310 --> 00:20:37,950 Speaker 1: You have. You're trashing the haircare. 434 00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:42,380 Speaker 1: I know, and I'm usually like look, I don't find hair care 435 00:20:42,380 --> 00:20:45,530 Speaker 1: that sexy. The reason is that I've been so lazy 436 00:20:45,530 --> 00:20:47,500 Speaker 1: with my hair because it's so unmanageable. And so I 437 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:51,260 Speaker 1: found some products that really help me make it look nice. 438 00:20:51,390 --> 00:20:55,430 Speaker 1: So I had a curling wand that I never used. 439 00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:56,831 Speaker 1: It just went in the drawer because it was too 440 00:20:56,830 --> 00:20:58,770 Speaker 1: hard to use. I burnt myself all the time. I 441 00:20:58,770 --> 00:21:01,260 Speaker 1: once burnt my face and had to go to work 442 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:04,330 Speaker 1: with a big scab on my cheek. So I'm a 443 00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:09,071 Speaker 1: little bit wary of curling irons. So I have discovered... 444 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,650 Speaker 1: it is called Hot Tools the Curl Bar. And it 445 00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:14,740 Speaker 1: is on a 90 degree angle...how do you... 446 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to explain. 447 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,179 Speaker 1: It's really hard to explain. So there must be things that we can describe on a 90 degree angle. 448 00:21:19,180 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: I can't think of any. 449 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:25,129 Speaker 1: I was about to say like one of those weird rulers. But, rulers are straight. You know what I mean? 450 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:25,690 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. No I know the rulers you mean. Like the architects use. 451 00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:31,389 Speaker 1: Like the architects use. God, this is really hard to explain what it 452 00:21:31,390 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: looks like. Anyway, it's on a 90 degree angle so 453 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,541 Speaker 1: that you..it's really ergonomic. And it also has a button. So 454 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:41,179 Speaker 1: you can... it counts down from five. 455 00:21:41,290 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it times each curl that you do 456 00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:46,530 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it vibrates. So if you are really challenged in the 457 00:21:46,530 --> 00:21:52,379 Speaker 1: curling department. Curling challenged, I would highly recommend... I actually 458 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: had bought online at Adore Beauty, I had actually bought 459 00:21:55,890 --> 00:21:59,629 Speaker 1: another curling wand, and I actually returned it and got this one 460 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: after I tried it because it was so much easier 461 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,380 Speaker 1: to use. 462 00:22:02,380 --> 00:22:02,761 Speaker 1: Yeah 463 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:07,330 Speaker 1: yeah, and it look... like some people don't like using 464 00:22:07,330 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: heat tools that go up that hot. And in that case, 465 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,970 Speaker 1: you know, there's the Dyson Airwrap, and there's some other things 466 00:22:11,970 --> 00:22:16,189 Speaker 1: that you can use but for me, my hairs short. I cut it 467 00:22:16,340 --> 00:22:19,149 Speaker 1: so frequently that it doesn't bother me that 468 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: I find the curl bar really easy to use as well. And I don't generally struggle 469 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: with using my wand because I've used it for such a long time. 470 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,910 Speaker 2: But it is super easy. 471 00:22:27,130 --> 00:22:29,540 Speaker 1: Yeah so if you want to curl your hair but you're finding... 472 00:22:29,540 --> 00:22:32,490 Speaker 1: you find it really difficult to use a regular curling wand, 473 00:22:32,490 --> 00:22:35,149 Speaker 1: I would highly recommend this one. I actually don't section 474 00:22:35,150 --> 00:22:38,810 Speaker 1: my hair with it. I literally just do the top section. And I run 475 00:22:38,810 --> 00:22:42,410 Speaker 1: like a thick, a wide toothed comb through it. Amazing. 476 00:22:42,540 --> 00:22:44,351 Speaker 2: You know who would be good for? Because you don't 477 00:22:44,350 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: have to lift your shoulder in your elbow like you 478 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,420 Speaker 2: do the normal. So would be good for people that have like, shoulder injury, 479 00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:52,429 Speaker 2: limited rotation and like, yeah, I don't know. 480 00:22:52,430 --> 00:22:54,821 Speaker 1: And also getting around the back. 481 00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. 482 00:22:57,210 --> 00:23:00,210 Speaker 1: I'm really impressed with you in this product you didn't know you needed. You made 483 00:23:00,210 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: no sexually charged comments at all. Did you get some last night? 484 00:23:06,990 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: I just felt like I needed to be a bit more professional 485 00:23:09,250 --> 00:23:10,890 Speaker 2: bit professional this time? 486 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:15,180 Speaker 2: Nobody told me to. But I just felt maybe I should just... Yeah... 487 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:16,810 Speaker 1: I actually was expecting you to make a comment about 488 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:17,670 Speaker 1: the curl bar 489 00:23:20,140 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: that was your product. 490 00:23:24,210 --> 00:23:25,250 Speaker 1: 'it's long and thin and... it's really like, satifying' 491 00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:25,630 Speaker 1: it's warm...That's enough. That's enough. 492 00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:34,850 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for joining us today. 493 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: Don't forget to subscribe and tell your friends it helps 494 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,179 Speaker 2: other people discover us. And also we really want to 495 00:23:40,180 --> 00:23:43,091 Speaker 2: know what you thought about this podcast. So if you can leave 496 00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:45,250 Speaker 2: us a review, that would be much appreciated.