1 00:00:00,340 --> 00:00:03,270 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to BeautyIQ the podcast. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,250 Speaker 1: I'm your host Joanna Fleming 3 00:00:04,690 --> 00:00:09,041 Speaker 1: and I am your co host Hannah Furst. So what's on 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,201 Speaker 1: today's episode, Jo? 5 00:00:10,210 --> 00:00:15,390 Speaker 1: So today we are talking about hiding bathroom smells, delicately. Aka poop. 6 00:00:15,390 --> 00:00:20,590 Speaker 1: And then we have a very special guest. @teganmac.skin is coming 7 00:00:20,590 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: in to talk about adult acne. And of course, our 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,549 Speaker 1: products that we didn't know we needed. 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,350 Speaker 1: So for today's cringy convo, we're talking about... poo 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,030 Speaker 1: Surprise. Surprise. Something else that you probably don't want to listen to. 11 00:00:40,190 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: We actually wrote in our schedule which, like everyone has 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: access to. We wrote 'hiding bathroom smells' because we thought 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,590 Speaker 1: that was more delicate. But let's just call it what 14 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:51,590 Speaker 1: it is. So the reason this came up was, I... 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,810 Speaker 1: the other day said to Joanna, I was like, 'Jo, 16 00:00:53,810 --> 00:00:55,710 Speaker 1: do you want to come get a coffee?' and she was like 'Do you 17 00:00:55,710 --> 00:00:56,860 Speaker 1: want me to shit myself?' 18 00:00:56,870 --> 00:00:59,500 Speaker 1: I can't have coffee, guys. I can't. 19 00:00:59,510 --> 00:01:02,340 Speaker 1: So what happens to you when you drink coffee? 20 00:01:02,350 --> 00:01:03,210 Speaker 1: Well as you just said, I shit myself. How can I put this delicately... 21 00:01:08,550 --> 00:01:10,190 Speaker 1: Has that happened to you before? 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,740 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well I haven't actually shit myself. But, to the point where 23 00:01:14,740 --> 00:01:16,260 Speaker 1: I need to go to the bathroom ugently 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:18,649 Speaker 1: right away and you need be near a toilet. 25 00:01:18,970 --> 00:01:23,530 Speaker 1: Absolutely. And honestly, like I... as we discussed in our episode with Carla, 26 00:01:23,540 --> 00:01:25,619 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of gut issues in my life. 27 00:01:25,620 --> 00:01:30,420 Speaker 1: And so this is just, bathroom anxiety is probably thing 28 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:30,900 Speaker 1: for me. 29 00:01:30,910 --> 00:01:33,270 Speaker 1: So, you wouldn't have... So the reason that we started 30 00:01:33,270 --> 00:01:35,510 Speaker 1: talking about it was we were like, you know, when you like, 31 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: first start dating someone or you... and then you go 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,050 Speaker 1: on your first holiday together... 33 00:01:40,140 --> 00:01:42,441 Speaker 1: I feel like everybody has their strategies. 34 00:01:42,450 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: Yes. Everybody. 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,100 Speaker 1: And we spoke about this with a previous guest, was their strategy for like, hiding what you do in the bathroom. 36 00:01:49,170 --> 00:01:52,610 Speaker 1: What do you do? Like, when you go...you flush as 37 00:01:52,610 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: you're going. But then you have to flush again. So anyway... 38 00:01:56,910 --> 00:01:57,571 Speaker 1: I've got a strategy. 39 00:01:57,770 --> 00:01:59,750 Speaker 1: I feel like this will be really relatable to a 40 00:01:59,750 --> 00:02:02,140 Speaker 1: lot of people. So you probably haven't gone through what 41 00:02:02,150 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: I've gone through, which is I remember I went with 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,900 Speaker 1: my ex boyfriend, We went to Bali for our first trip. 43 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:09,291 Speaker 1: It was very early on in the first 6 months, 44 00:02:09,540 --> 00:02:13,441 Speaker 1: and I'd never gone to the toilet, number two's. I'd never... 45 00:02:13,450 --> 00:02:16,310 Speaker 1: I don't want to say number two. I want to 46 00:02:16,310 --> 00:02:17,250 Speaker 1: say what it's called 47 00:02:17,250 --> 00:02:19,150 Speaker 1: Just say... 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,899 Speaker 1: Deficated 49 00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:23,701 Speaker 1: I never shat in front of my boyfriend. 50 00:02:23,710 --> 00:02:27,330 Speaker 1: Is that the technical term? 51 00:02:27,340 --> 00:02:28,110 Speaker 1: Yep. Shat 52 00:02:28,740 --> 00:02:31,490 Speaker 1: Um, so I'd never gone to the toilet in front of him. We didn't live together. And we 53 00:02:31,490 --> 00:02:33,291 Speaker 1: went to Bali and we had a villa together. And 54 00:02:33,290 --> 00:02:35,041 Speaker 1: I was like, 'What am I gonna do?' 55 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,970 Speaker 1: Did you think about it prior? Because I think about it 56 00:02:36,970 --> 00:02:37,859 Speaker 1: for like three months before. 57 00:02:37,860 --> 00:02:40,321 Speaker 1: Yes, because I knew that a friend had gone, had the same 58 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,291 Speaker 1: thing happened to her, and she'd actually had to get 59 00:02:42,290 --> 00:02:44,641 Speaker 1: suppositories because she hadn't gone to the toilet in a 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,609 Speaker 1: week or something. 61 00:02:45,610 --> 00:02:47,050 Speaker 1: Was that friend you? 62 00:02:48,790 --> 00:02:52,190 Speaker 1: No, that was not me. That was actually a friend. 63 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,231 Speaker 1: But I really did. So I held on. And, you know, 64 00:02:55,230 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: when you're in Bali, you're in your bikini. So my 65 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: stomach got bigger and bigger and got more bloated and more painful. 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: And my stomach pains were... was like stabbing. And so 67 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,571 Speaker 1: I remember I was like, we got to like, a 68 00:03:08,570 --> 00:03:10,610 Speaker 1: restaurant on, like, the third or fourth day, and I 69 00:03:10,610 --> 00:03:12,459 Speaker 1: still hadn't gone to the bathroom. And I was like, 70 00:03:12,460 --> 00:03:14,290 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to go the bathroom here. And 71 00:03:14,290 --> 00:03:15,649 Speaker 1: then it was too late. 72 00:03:15,740 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't happen to me 73 00:03:17,850 --> 00:03:20,481 Speaker 1: So that must be... so if I leave it too long, 74 00:03:20,490 --> 00:03:21,470 Speaker 1: it's done, I can't go to the toilet 75 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I think I'd just perish. I don't think I can hold it. I'm one of those people that like if I had 76 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,190 Speaker 1: to go, I'd be one of those people you know, that they capture on like, CCTV, supermarkets. Like, shitting in an aisle. That would be me because I can't hold it. 77 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,660 Speaker 1: So, you probably have never experienced that then 78 00:03:41,020 --> 00:03:41,820 Speaker 1: I haven't, no. I'm opposite to you. 79 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:46,350 Speaker 1: Okay so, what's your story? Because we all just have 80 00:03:46,350 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: a story 81 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh I just have my own strategies. So, like, you know, if you're going away with 82 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: someone for the first time and you don't know what 83 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,270 Speaker 1: the bathroom situation, I'm always hoping for a bathroom with 84 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,391 Speaker 1: a shower and a toilet, because then you can turn 85 00:03:58,390 --> 00:03:59,740 Speaker 1: the shower on. You can be like, 'oh I'm just going to have a shower' 86 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,700 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true, that're true. 87 00:04:02,750 --> 00:04:05,930 Speaker 1: Turn the shower on, they don't know anything. And then by the time you 88 00:04:05,930 --> 00:04:09,060 Speaker 1: get out of the shower there's nothing. No evidence. 89 00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:11,660 Speaker 1: So that is like best case scenario. 90 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:15,050 Speaker 1: But if there's not a separate, if there's a separate toilet...you're f****ed. 91 00:04:19,230 --> 00:04:22,470 Speaker 1: So we've actually got a couple of products that we 92 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: rely on quite heavily. I mean, I'm quite open. I 93 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,550 Speaker 1: don't really mind too much. 94 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,020 Speaker 1: Since we've started this podcast, can I be honest like, I've been quite more open about this like, 95 00:04:31,029 --> 00:04:31,750 Speaker 1: with you. 96 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,260 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 97 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: Because I would never say to you like, I really... Like if I don't go... 98 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,260 Speaker 1: like I've been telling you... 99 00:04:36,270 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Well we've been away together quite a bit 100 00:04:37,970 --> 00:04:40,610 Speaker 1: but I like, I would never talk about my gut issues. 101 00:04:40,610 --> 00:04:43,469 Speaker 1: And like any bloating, like all of that sort of stuff, 102 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,410 Speaker 1: I wouldn't talk about that usually. But now... 103 00:04:45,410 --> 00:04:46,091 Speaker 1: you tell me anything 104 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:47,830 Speaker 1: But now I just tell you, I'm like, 'haven't gone 105 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:49,670 Speaker 1: to the toilet in three days. What's wrong with me?' 106 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:50,270 Speaker 1: And you're like, you need to... 107 00:04:50,450 --> 00:04:52,659 Speaker 1: I don't know why you rely on me for medical advice. 108 00:04:52,670 --> 00:04:57,830 Speaker 1: I do. I rely on you for all my advice. Actually, 109 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:59,490 Speaker 1: can I be honest with you? You know how I 110 00:04:59,490 --> 00:05:03,299 Speaker 1: stopped going to f45. And then I like... That's when I 111 00:05:03,300 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: started having really bad gut issues and I wasn't going to 112 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,730 Speaker 1: the toilet. I was not regular. And I started taking, like, 113 00:05:09,740 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: the Detox + Debloat by JSHealth and the Glow powder. So 114 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,950 Speaker 1: I was trying all these supplements to try to compensate 115 00:05:19,950 --> 00:05:22,740 Speaker 1: for the fact that I'd stopped exercising and started having 116 00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:26,390 Speaker 1: issues with being regular. And so then what I did 117 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:29,141 Speaker 1: was I just went back to a f45 and then... 118 00:05:30,050 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: and what do you know? 119 00:05:30,730 --> 00:05:33,070 Speaker 1: What do you know? A soon as I have a coffee in the morning 120 00:05:33,190 --> 00:05:35,930 Speaker 1: exercise is a...oh wait, so you go at work? 121 00:05:36,020 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no...Do I? 122 00:05:38,740 --> 00:05:39,641 Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to 123 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: I didn't used to want to do that, I used to hold 124 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,190 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't. A lot of people are like, 'I 125 00:05:45,190 --> 00:05:48,349 Speaker 1: will only shit in my toilet', but like if you've 126 00:05:48,350 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: got diarrhoea, what're you gonna do? 127 00:05:52,180 --> 00:05:54,380 Speaker 1: I think as I get older, I get less stressed 128 00:05:54,380 --> 00:05:57,370 Speaker 1: about it. And maybe maybe us talking about this stuff 129 00:05:57,370 --> 00:05:59,620 Speaker 1: has also made me less stressed about it. Like I 130 00:05:59,620 --> 00:06:02,750 Speaker 1: probably just don't care anymore. And I'm like, It's okay. 131 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,220 Speaker 1: I want people to DM us if they have work toilet phobia, because I think that's probably a thing. 132 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:11,510 Speaker 1: Yes. And I probably have had... So at my last job, 133 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,669 Speaker 1: we had, like a conference centre that was like downstairs 134 00:06:14,670 --> 00:06:19,500 Speaker 1: and there was never any conferences there, so I used to actually go downstairs. Because 135 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:22,229 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it in our bathroom. Which makes no sense. Like 136 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:23,740 Speaker 1: that's what the bathrooms there for 137 00:06:23,750 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: I know, but it's this shame of like, centuries of women not being able to 138 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,610 Speaker 1: talk about their bowel movements. 139 00:06:30,620 --> 00:06:30,781 Speaker 1: Yes. 140 00:06:30,779 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: and now we have this overwhelming shame. 141 00:06:31,529 --> 00:06:35,109 Speaker 1: That's so true. That's so true. 142 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:35,980 Speaker 1: But guys can just be like 'I'm going to take a shit' and everyones like 'cool!' 143 00:06:35,980 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah they're actually really open about it. What is it about women? And also 144 00:06:42,050 --> 00:06:42,750 Speaker 1: it's about... 145 00:06:43,740 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: It's the same thing that we've discussed in a lot 146 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,870 Speaker 1: of our episodes, that stuff that guys feel comfortable talking 147 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: about, and then all of a sudden, it's like shameful for us to talk. 148 00:06:52,210 --> 00:06:55,581 Speaker 1: It's like, it's like we don't... It's like we don't poo. 149 00:06:55,810 --> 00:07:00,830 Speaker 1: It's weird that women poo or something. But it's not because you do it every, hopefully... 150 00:07:00,830 --> 00:07:01,771 Speaker 1: we're all human. 151 00:07:01,779 --> 00:07:05,180 Speaker 1: Exactly. So I think that, yes, it's like there's the 152 00:07:05,180 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: whole thing about, like, normalising it. It's like, yes, we 153 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,450 Speaker 1: all shit and we all have to and it's fine. But 154 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:13,990 Speaker 1: also there is also the thing that if someone's coming 155 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:16,870 Speaker 1: into the bathroom after you, it's actually like a nice thing to 156 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: cover the smell. 157 00:07:18,970 --> 00:07:21,281 Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you're a month into a relationship and you want to 158 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,870 Speaker 1: keep the romance alive and maybe you do want to cover 159 00:07:23,870 --> 00:07:26,700 Speaker 1: it up. So the two products that we choose to 160 00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:27,910 Speaker 1: hide our bathrooms smells. 161 00:07:27,910 --> 00:07:30,610 Speaker 1: So I actually, because I don't have a boyfriend, I 162 00:07:30,610 --> 00:07:33,630 Speaker 1: don't really... I'm not a big spender on the hiding 163 00:07:33,630 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: the poo smell. So I just go for Poo Pourri which 164 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,050 Speaker 1: is cheaper, I think, 165 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,250 Speaker 1: Do you know how it works? 166 00:07:39,265 --> 00:07:40,929 Speaker 1: No, I actually don't know how it works 167 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:43,330 Speaker 1: so my product works similar to this as well. So 168 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:45,271 Speaker 1: I like Aesop Post Poo Drops because I'm bougie 169 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: You are 170 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,170 Speaker 1: and they both kind of work in a similar way, 171 00:07:49,170 --> 00:07:52,961 Speaker 1: where they kind of form a film over the water. So 172 00:07:52,960 --> 00:08:00,730 Speaker 1: once the excrement goes into the water...the smell can't get out. So it's kind 173 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: of similar, but 174 00:08:01,730 --> 00:08:03,100 Speaker 1: Are you meant to spray Poo Pourri over the... 175 00:08:04,950 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: So Poo Pourri goes first, before you anticipate you're going to do a poo 176 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: Oh my God. Okay, so I did not know that 177 00:08:10,190 --> 00:08:12,820 Speaker 1: No it goes first, that's the point of it. Poo Pourri spray in first. Before you go. 178 00:08:12,830 --> 00:08:14,550 Speaker 1: I did not read the instructions. 179 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,940 Speaker 1: Well, we've got to put some instructions at work babe 180 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:21,270 Speaker 1: and then the Post Poo Drops are obviously post... poo. It's 181 00:08:21,270 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: kind of a little bit different. 182 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,500 Speaker 1: I love that Aesop doesn't give a shit and they call 183 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:26,230 Speaker 1: it Post Poo Drops. 184 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:27,540 Speaker 1: Yeah well they do give a shit. 185 00:08:28,580 --> 00:08:31,820 Speaker 1: I just really like that, that brand, which is like such 186 00:08:31,820 --> 00:08:36,630 Speaker 1: a nice, beautiful bougie brand, is calling it... a spade a spade. 187 00:08:37,660 --> 00:08:38,450 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I love that too. 188 00:08:38,460 --> 00:08:39,110 Speaker 1: I love that. 189 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,190 Speaker 1: But anyway, that's our approach to bathroom smells. So if you're looking for an 190 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: air freshener, but also on air fresheners- how annoying is 191 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,870 Speaker 1: that when the air freshener is an aerosol and obviously 192 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: everybody outside of the bathroom can hear you spraying a can 193 00:08:53,410 --> 00:08:57,151 Speaker 1: I actually think the Post Poo Drops would be the 194 00:08:57,540 --> 00:08:58,730 Speaker 1: most discreet 195 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:01,450 Speaker 1: Well Poo Pourri, you can't hear either, because it's just a 196 00:09:01,460 --> 00:09:05,130 Speaker 1: very slight spray. It's not an aerosol. It's just a 197 00:09:05,140 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: little spray bottle, so you don't hear either of them. Like, 198 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,949 Speaker 1: who invented toilet freshener... 199 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:13,791 Speaker 1: I know like, 'Kkshhhh' 200 00:09:13,790 --> 00:09:17,059 Speaker 1: Yeah you can hear it from 500 metres away. What is the point? 201 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:20,709 Speaker 1: Someone did a shit 202 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,030 Speaker 1: There's no point 203 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: Anyway, if you find these cringy convos immature... 204 00:09:24,690 --> 00:09:28,031 Speaker 1: I would like to say that Hannah and I are 205 00:09:28,030 --> 00:09:30,940 Speaker 1: both mature adults, but sometimes you just have to address 206 00:09:30,940 --> 00:09:32,900 Speaker 1: these things, and it's funny to talk about . 207 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:36,340 Speaker 1: If you find this immature, that's fine. But we're going 208 00:09:36,340 --> 00:09:40,910 Speaker 1: to keep doing it. So... we'll be back next week talking about... I can't even remember 209 00:09:40,910 --> 00:09:42,830 Speaker 1: what's on next week's, but we'll be back to talk 210 00:09:42,830 --> 00:09:43,329 Speaker 1: about something gross. 211 00:09:49,420 --> 00:09:52,140 Speaker 1: Our next guest is here to talk about adult acne. 212 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:56,580 Speaker 1: It is, of course, the famous teganmac.skin, she's here in 213 00:09:56,580 --> 00:09:57,429 Speaker 1: the flesh 214 00:09:57,429 --> 00:09:57,699 Speaker 1: I'm here in the teganmac.skin jumper 215 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,230 Speaker 1: You're used to seeing her on the gram. But she's here on the podcast. 216 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:04,510 Speaker 1: Yes, so tell us a little bit about yourself, Tegan. 217 00:10:04,510 --> 00:10:07,290 Speaker 1: So I've been dealing with acne ever since I was 218 00:10:07,290 --> 00:10:10,050 Speaker 1: probably about 13. It never got to the point where 219 00:10:10,050 --> 00:10:13,391 Speaker 1: I needed to go on Roaccutane, but it got very close. 220 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,270 Speaker 1: So I think that's what kind of sparked my whole 221 00:10:15,270 --> 00:10:18,700 Speaker 1: interest in skin, is because it was always something that 222 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:21,990 Speaker 1: I was battling with myself. And I was trying to 223 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:25,660 Speaker 1: find solutions for my issues. And then it just kind of, 224 00:10:25,660 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: I fell into the world of skin care. 225 00:10:27,530 --> 00:10:28,979 Speaker 1: So what do you do now? 226 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Now, as a job? 227 00:10:31,370 --> 00:10:33,450 Speaker 1: Yes for the people that haven't seen you... 228 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:35,099 Speaker 1: As a lifestyle? Who hasn't seen me? I'm everywhere 229 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:36,860 Speaker 1: For the people who haven't seen you all over our gram? 230 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: Yes. Here I am 231 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:38,431 Speaker 2: Don't be like that Tegan. 232 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:45,730 Speaker 2: I'm back in podcast form. So working at my personal 233 00:10:45,730 --> 00:10:51,380 Speaker 2: business now, teganmac.skin as of last week, doing all things skin. That's 234 00:10:51,380 --> 00:10:54,010 Speaker 2: what I do. But I thought, what better way to 235 00:10:54,010 --> 00:10:57,620 Speaker 2: introduce my acne stories with a story that I feel 236 00:10:57,620 --> 00:11:03,050 Speaker 2: like summarises one of my prime acne experiences? So this 237 00:11:03,050 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: was in 2016 I went to Eritrea, which is in Africa, 238 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:08,830 Speaker 2: and I was there with my... 239 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,470 Speaker 1: I thought that was going to be music festiva 240 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,901 Speaker 1: No, it sounds like it. No, it's in Africa, East Africa. 241 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:18,179 Speaker 1: And I went there with my boyfriend and his family 242 00:11:18,179 --> 00:11:22,170 Speaker 1: and we were staying with his Aunty. And I was 243 00:11:22,170 --> 00:11:24,390 Speaker 1: like going through a real bad skin patch. I just 244 00:11:24,390 --> 00:11:26,530 Speaker 1: did a long haul flight. I was stressed. My skin 245 00:11:26,530 --> 00:11:29,061 Speaker 1: was just gross. But I was like, 'Hey, I'm like 246 00:11:29,059 --> 00:11:31,250 Speaker 1: in Africa. I'm not going to wear any makeup. Let 247 00:11:31,250 --> 00:11:34,589 Speaker 1: me live my best life' and his Aunty obviously didn't 248 00:11:34,590 --> 00:11:37,140 Speaker 1: speak English. So any time we would have a conversation, 249 00:11:37,140 --> 00:11:40,270 Speaker 1: it would have to be through someone else. So she 250 00:11:40,270 --> 00:11:43,651 Speaker 1: is looking at me saying something, and I like being polite. 251 00:11:43,780 --> 00:11:46,050 Speaker 1: And then my friend had to translate it and she 252 00:11:46,050 --> 00:11:48,809 Speaker 1: was like, 'Oh, she said that you've got a lot 253 00:11:48,809 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: of bad mosquito bites your face like the mosquitoes have really 254 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,949 Speaker 1: got you bad'. And I was like... because we both 255 00:11:55,950 --> 00:11:59,290 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't mosquito bites. But how do I then go 256 00:11:59,290 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: through two people to translate that? So I was just like, 'yeah, those mosquito bites'. 257 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:07,970 Speaker 1: It was acne and it was so embarrassing and everyone was 258 00:12:07,980 --> 00:12:13,921 Speaker 1: looking at me like we all know it's mosquito bites. Like, what do you say? and I was like, 259 00:12:13,929 --> 00:12:16,171 Speaker 1: 'when do you grow out of this?' And that's when I learned, you don't. You don't grow out of it. 260 00:12:19,140 --> 00:12:21,740 Speaker 1: You don't grow out of it. There's a really good meme, 'my adult acne keeps me young'. 261 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:23,921 Speaker 2: I love that one 262 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,110 Speaker 2: It's just an ongoing thing. So many people can relate to 263 00:12:27,110 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: that 264 00:12:27,370 --> 00:12:29,750 Speaker 2: Absolutely. We get a lot of questions about it. I 265 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: get a lot of dms of my gram too, about adult acne 266 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,929 Speaker 2: You probably can't relate, Jo. 267 00:12:34,380 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: She can't relate. She is like, from Austin Powers, a femme bot. 268 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Yes, like I'm pretty sure... 269 00:12:38,770 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: Doesn't age... 270 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:40,431 Speaker 1: If you clean cut her head off like, all these electrical sparks would start flying out. She's not real. So it's you and me. Me and Hannah... 271 00:12:51,910 --> 00:12:52,650 Speaker 1: I don't know whether to take that as compliment? 272 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:54,670 Speaker 1: I feel like it is a compliment. 273 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:54,829 Speaker 1: Yeah take it. 274 00:12:54,830 --> 00:12:59,359 Speaker 1: I have a question. What? What is the difference between, I guess, 275 00:12:59,370 --> 00:13:01,660 Speaker 1: acne when you're young, and then if you have, like, 276 00:13:01,660 --> 00:13:05,819 Speaker 1: sort of persistent acne when you're older and then hormonal breakouts. 277 00:13:05,830 --> 00:13:09,059 Speaker 1: Yes, so I would say, when you're young, it's just kind 278 00:13:09,059 --> 00:13:12,809 Speaker 1: of your body being introduced to hormones that you've never had 279 00:13:12,809 --> 00:13:16,069 Speaker 1: them in such levels, going through puberty. And I find 280 00:13:16,070 --> 00:13:18,490 Speaker 1: when you're a teenager a lot of the time the 281 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:22,291 Speaker 1: acne is on the forehead and maybe coming down onto 282 00:13:22,290 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: the cheeks a little bit. But what I'm finding with 283 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: most of the clients I'm working with is it all on 284 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,420 Speaker 1: the chin. And people find it's when they're due for their period, 285 00:13:30,420 --> 00:13:32,250 Speaker 1: they might get a pimple. And that's a pimple that's 286 00:13:32,250 --> 00:13:36,579 Speaker 1: not acne. Acne is that real persistent, you never really have 287 00:13:36,580 --> 00:13:41,100 Speaker 1: a clear patch of skin. And it's a lot deeper 288 00:13:41,110 --> 00:13:44,931 Speaker 1: and a lot more sore and inflamed. Whereas I find teenagers, 289 00:13:44,929 --> 00:13:47,301 Speaker 1: it's more like lots of little dots. I think that's 290 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:50,630 Speaker 1: the biggest difference with the types of acne. And it's 291 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:53,311 Speaker 1: hard when you're a female, you go through a cycle 292 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,819 Speaker 1: every whatever. I don't know what it is because my 293 00:13:55,820 --> 00:13:56,850 Speaker 1: cycle's jacked. 294 00:13:56,865 --> 00:13:59,270 Speaker 1: Same, we talked about this last week. 295 00:13:59,870 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: It's supposedly meant to be like 28 days, mines like 55. And so every single month, just as your body 296 00:14:05,790 --> 00:14:07,901 Speaker 1: kind of gets past it, you're back going through the 297 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: hormonal changes again, and then it just kind of it's ongoing. 298 00:14:11,890 --> 00:14:14,050 Speaker 1: and your skin has to go through that recovery phase 299 00:14:14,050 --> 00:14:16,740 Speaker 1: as well. So by the time you get through that healing process, 300 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:21,020 Speaker 1: your skin's just back to producing pimples. 301 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:21,790 Speaker 1: It's like 'I'm baaack'. 302 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,890 Speaker 1: And you're like, damn it! I did want to ask, cause we're about the same age 303 00:14:23,890 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: and a few of my friends now, are like going off 304 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,420 Speaker 1: the pill and things like cause they're married, want to have kids. Not me. 305 00:14:29,420 --> 00:14:34,011 Speaker 1: But my friends, and they're starting to experience that whole coming 306 00:14:34,010 --> 00:14:38,580 Speaker 1: off the pill hormonal surge, adult acne phase. Do you have 307 00:14:38,580 --> 00:14:40,590 Speaker 1: any advice on that? Because I know that you've mentioned 308 00:14:40,590 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: before on your own channels that you came off the pill. 309 00:14:42,330 --> 00:14:45,330 Speaker 1: Yeah well, I went through that in December. I've been off the 310 00:14:45,330 --> 00:14:48,460 Speaker 1: pill once before, when I was 20 and it was 311 00:14:48,460 --> 00:14:52,330 Speaker 1: just a war zone like, I fully broke out. It was disgusting. 312 00:14:52,330 --> 00:14:56,610 Speaker 1: I nearly needed a front fringe, got that bad. I was like 'how do I cover this?'. So I went 313 00:14:56,610 --> 00:14:59,340 Speaker 1: back on the pill and then my advice from my doctor, 314 00:14:59,340 --> 00:15:01,340 Speaker 1: which I think is, a lot of people get the 315 00:15:01,340 --> 00:15:04,030 Speaker 1: same advice, is when you have polycystic ovaries like I 316 00:15:04,030 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: do is 'just stay on the pill and then when 317 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,070 Speaker 1: you're ready to have kids, go off it'. So a 318 00:15:09,070 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: lot of people just stay on the pill until they're 319 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,210 Speaker 1: ready to have kids. They go off the pill and 320 00:15:14,210 --> 00:15:17,730 Speaker 1: realise they've got all of these hormonal issues and they 321 00:15:17,730 --> 00:15:20,510 Speaker 1: might not have a natural period. They might have just 322 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,350 Speaker 1: out of whack hormone levels. They struggle to have kids. 323 00:15:25,470 --> 00:15:28,260 Speaker 1: The best thing you can do, for me is, I 324 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:31,260 Speaker 1: went and saw a naturopath and did it under the guidance 325 00:15:31,260 --> 00:15:34,020 Speaker 1: of a naturopath. I went on a series of supplements. 326 00:15:34,220 --> 00:15:36,100 Speaker 1: She told me about what kind of foods I should 327 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: be eating. And then, of course, skin care can help support the 328 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,910 Speaker 1: skin as best it can. Keeping it calm. But I 329 00:15:42,910 --> 00:15:45,250 Speaker 1: think the key thing to remember is when you have 330 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,510 Speaker 1: acne and you know it's hormonal. It's not your skin 331 00:15:48,510 --> 00:15:51,890 Speaker 1: being oily and grossing congested, and all the acne products 332 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:56,061 Speaker 1: on the shelf assume that you're an oily teenager. So you've 333 00:15:56,060 --> 00:16:00,110 Speaker 1: really got a step away from the acids and focus 334 00:16:00,110 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: on anti inflammatory calming skin care because you know the 335 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,250 Speaker 1: cause is hormones and not you being really oily. So 336 00:16:07,390 --> 00:16:10,190 Speaker 1: salicylic can sometimes be a bit hard core. And I 337 00:16:10,190 --> 00:16:13,290 Speaker 1: think that's a problem people find when they come into 338 00:16:13,290 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: me and they...they come into me. Oh my God. 339 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,820 Speaker 1: We love sexual innuendos on this podcast. Jo does it all the time 340 00:16:27,050 --> 00:16:30,550 Speaker 1: When they come into the clinic, I should say, and they're 341 00:16:30,730 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: like 'I've tried all this stuff, all this acne stuff. Why is 342 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,590 Speaker 1: it not working?' the second you get them off the acids 343 00:16:35,730 --> 00:16:39,450 Speaker 1: and onto, you know, doing some LED, using some calming 344 00:16:39,450 --> 00:16:42,171 Speaker 1: anti inflammatory skincare. Their skin calms down a lot better 345 00:16:42,180 --> 00:16:44,850 Speaker 1: because you're going through hormonal breakouts your skin just needs 346 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: love and support not to be stripped back and burnt alive. 347 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,011 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think the thing that people do accidentally is overuse, things 348 00:16:53,010 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: like salicylic acid. I'm like, 'just do it like a dot 349 00:16:56,450 --> 00:16:59,790 Speaker 1: on that pimple, just once', but they're like every three 350 00:16:59,790 --> 00:17:02,370 Speaker 1: hours going back over the same area and putting more on 351 00:17:02,380 --> 00:17:06,050 Speaker 2: Yeah because it needs to go through the drying out phase. And then it needs to kind 352 00:17:06,050 --> 00:17:09,111 Speaker 2: of dry up and flake off on its own. I 353 00:17:09,109 --> 00:17:12,060 Speaker 2: went through a desperate phase where I spot treated a 354 00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:14,500 Speaker 2: pimple above my lip, two days in a row. And 355 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:18,190 Speaker 2: now I've got, like, permanent dermatitis because that's an area 356 00:17:18,190 --> 00:17:22,369 Speaker 2: that's not meant to dry out around your nose. And I was like, 'Damn it'. Now it's been red for like, 357 00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:24,990 Speaker 2: 12 months, so don't do what I did. 358 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,710 Speaker 1: I'm all for encouraging the protection of the barrier. When it comes to acne. 359 00:17:29,260 --> 00:17:31,841 Speaker 1: Well I thought that was really interesting. So we did a very 360 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,580 Speaker 1: serious with Tegan, you're a skin therapist. 361 00:17:34,590 --> 00:17:35,260 Speaker 1: Yes. 362 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:39,330 Speaker 1: We had three clients come and see you and two 363 00:17:39,330 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: of them had acne, I think. And I was...and they had 364 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,541 Speaker 1: adult acne. And what I was so surprised that, was 365 00:17:44,540 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: the products that you recommended because one of them had 366 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,830 Speaker 1: a really impaired barrier. 367 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,361 Speaker 1: So, lot of people who have acne and have been 368 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,861 Speaker 1: using the wrong stuff have an impaired barrier, and you won't 369 00:17:54,859 --> 00:17:57,361 Speaker 1: really know if you have impaired barrier unless you go 370 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,379 Speaker 1: and see someone professionally. One of the signs is just 371 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:04,660 Speaker 1: general redness and dehydration. So the skin will feel tight. 372 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: So we have to fix that before we start using 373 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,990 Speaker 1: anything exfoliating. Otherwise, we're just exfoliating a barrier that's already broken. 374 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: And you're going to keep getting breakouts because if the 375 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: barrier's broken, them bacteria's coming in and out of the skin. So we started off 376 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: with that particular girl with just calming anti inflammatories like, you're niacinamide. 377 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,179 Speaker 1: What else? You know, gentle cleanser. I think cleansers a 378 00:18:29,180 --> 00:18:32,380 Speaker 1: big mistake. People with acne always go for an exfoliating cleanser 379 00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: or a drying cleasner, like an acne cleanser 380 00:18:34,290 --> 00:18:38,449 Speaker 2: Yeah acne cleanser or a foaming cleanser or don't even get me started 381 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:40,710 Speaker 2: on cleanses with beads it because, what? it's a cleanser. Anyway... 382 00:18:42,210 --> 00:18:43,689 Speaker 2: it's not 2004 anymore. 383 00:18:43,700 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, no one is using that stuff. 384 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:46,890 Speaker 2: I am. Just joking. 385 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: Did you see the look I just gave you like 'what?' 386 00:18:51,770 --> 00:18:55,690 Speaker 1: Of course I don't guys. I told you, I only used by Bioderma 387 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:57,109 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. OK, 388 00:18:57,700 --> 00:19:01,321 Speaker 2: So, I think people always go for, like, acne cleanser, 389 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,689 Speaker 2: clear skin cleanser or something that's going to insinuate it's 390 00:19:04,690 --> 00:19:06,930 Speaker 2: going to help with your breakouts. But I think when in doubt, 391 00:19:06,930 --> 00:19:09,790 Speaker 2: just use a gentle cleanser. You're only trying to wash 392 00:19:09,790 --> 00:19:12,850 Speaker 2: your face. Just wash it with a gentle cleanser. If 393 00:19:12,850 --> 00:19:16,611 Speaker 2: you need acne products, use it in serum form, don't use 394 00:19:16,609 --> 00:19:18,111 Speaker 2: it as a cleanser because you have to use that 395 00:19:18,109 --> 00:19:21,621 Speaker 2: cleanser every day. And then if your skins feeling sensitive, you've got no 396 00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:25,390 Speaker 2: choice but to use your active cleanser. Whereas if it's gentle, you could just 397 00:19:25,390 --> 00:19:26,500 Speaker 2: use it all the time. 398 00:19:26,510 --> 00:19:27,361 Speaker 2: Very good tip. 399 00:19:27,790 --> 00:19:30,459 Speaker 2: Swapping over to a gentle cleanser is really important. 400 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: I feel like you're in my brain. 401 00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:33,580 Speaker 1: I can just see Joanna going 'oh! yep. yep. oh, yep' 402 00:19:37,619 --> 00:19:37,979 Speaker 1: I'm just loving what you're saying 403 00:19:37,980 --> 00:19:43,390 Speaker 1: It's like you're turned on right now. Like everything that she's saying is turning you on. I can hear grunting on the end of 404 00:19:43,390 --> 00:19:43,869 Speaker 1: the mic like 'mmm yeah. mmm' 405 00:19:44,890 --> 00:19:55,550 Speaker 1: Yeah she's dribbling on my knee. I'm like, can we put her in another studio? Next time I'm going to do this via webcam and not in the studio. 406 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,780 Speaker 1: And so you recommended gentle cleanser. What about serums? For someone that's 407 00:20:00,780 --> 00:20:01,980 Speaker 1: got an impaired barrier? 408 00:20:01,990 --> 00:20:05,929 Speaker 1: Definitely niacinamide, there's heaps of great ones out there. So just 409 00:20:05,930 --> 00:20:09,850 Speaker 1: a good quality niacinamide. I think another thing with acne 410 00:20:09,850 --> 00:20:15,630 Speaker 1: is just in general, don't waste your time on non-cosmeceutical products. Because you're just not going to get... 411 00:20:16,210 --> 00:20:16,780 Speaker 2: Preach! 412 00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:26,351 Speaker 1: She's doing it again. Because you just you know, if you're if you're desperate, 413 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: it's easy to go out and buy all the cheap stuff. 414 00:20:28,330 --> 00:20:30,750 Speaker 1: But like if you really want results, you've just gotta 415 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,770 Speaker 1: get the good stuff. Otherwise you're gonna be chasing your tail. 416 00:20:33,770 --> 00:20:36,149 Speaker 1: So a good quality... so anything I'm talking about, I'm 417 00:20:36,150 --> 00:20:42,321 Speaker 1: talking about cosmeceuticals. Obviously. Good quality vitamin b, gentle cleanser, 418 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,820 Speaker 1: a light moisturiser, something that's not going to be too heavy. 419 00:20:45,820 --> 00:20:48,590 Speaker 1: I would stay away from oils. I would stay away 420 00:20:48,590 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: from toners even. I just find them to be too 421 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,150 Speaker 1: drying unless you're covered in black heads. But when you've 422 00:20:55,150 --> 00:20:58,130 Speaker 1: got acne, you've got the big red sore ones. I 423 00:20:58,130 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't use a toner. Keeping the skin protected from the 424 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,820 Speaker 1: sun as well, because the skin will heal slower if 425 00:21:04,820 --> 00:21:05,861 Speaker 1: it's exposed to UV's. 426 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,100 Speaker 1: So when I was having really bad, like hormonal breakouts 427 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:12,460 Speaker 1: around my chin, I was going for, like, the acids, 428 00:21:12,460 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: thinking that would help, but it would always make it worse. 429 00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:18,850 Speaker 1: And so then, when I would swap to like, a hydrating product, 430 00:21:18,859 --> 00:21:22,621 Speaker 1: I found that it would like...I'm just thinking like, what 431 00:21:22,619 --> 00:21:24,619 Speaker 1: am I using at the moment with the new Cosmetix 432 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: The surge 433 00:21:25,970 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: Cosmedix HA Surge. So something like that, if I've got breakouts, I automatically 434 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,740 Speaker 1: would go to Cosmetix surge now because that, my skin will 435 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: heal quicker on the breakouts will go down quicker. Is that, um, 436 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,710 Speaker 1: I like crazy? 437 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:44,020 Speaker 2: You're not making it up. You're nourishing the skin and supporting the skin's healing. So when 438 00:21:44,020 --> 00:21:47,150 Speaker 2: you have, like 2010 Tegan, would have just gone out 439 00:21:47,150 --> 00:21:53,780 Speaker 2: and got charcoal masks, spot treatments, burn my face off. Now if I, 440 00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:56,581 Speaker 2: like right now if my skin's being crazy, I would 441 00:21:56,580 --> 00:22:04,550 Speaker 2: be doing LED, Société Peptide Mask, Hyaluronic. Just anything healing, hydrating and soothing 442 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 2: instead of going for the hard core stuff because your 443 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,351 Speaker 2: skin will heal so much quicker. 444 00:22:09,710 --> 00:22:10,910 Speaker 2: What about retinols, if you've got breakouts? 445 00:22:12,830 --> 00:22:16,341 Speaker 2: I think it's still fine. As long as your barrier is fine. 446 00:22:16,350 --> 00:22:18,770 Speaker 2: Then you can use a retinol, and it's important to make 447 00:22:18,770 --> 00:22:21,910 Speaker 2: sure that you're on the right retinol . I probably wouldn't 448 00:22:21,910 --> 00:22:25,649 Speaker 2: go out and just read a bunch of descriptions online 449 00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:28,010 Speaker 2: and then choose one. It's really something that if you 450 00:22:28,010 --> 00:22:31,109 Speaker 2: get it wrong, your skin could go crazy. And you'll hate retinols 451 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,930 Speaker 2: for the rest of your life. 452 00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Yep, been there. 453 00:22:33,810 --> 00:22:36,490 Speaker 2: You want to make sure you're on the right retinol for your skin, 454 00:22:36,490 --> 00:22:39,010 Speaker 2: and then you can always progress to a stronger one 455 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,670 Speaker 2: as your skin's tolerance increases. 456 00:22:42,460 --> 00:22:45,980 Speaker 1: and in terms of treatments available, like professional treatments available 457 00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:49,781 Speaker 1: for people without adult acne or scarring. So they've come out the other 458 00:22:49,780 --> 00:22:52,449 Speaker 1: side of having adult acne, now they're dealing with the scarring. 459 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: For both concerns, what are the kind of treatments that 460 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: you recommend? 461 00:22:55,930 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: So when someone comes in with acne, typically, what I 462 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,060 Speaker 2: start to do with them is like a custom facial. 463 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: So we're doing like oxygen treatments, which is great for killing bacteria. 464 00:23:06,740 --> 00:23:10,351 Speaker 2: LED is an absolute must. Go to any clinic who 465 00:23:10,350 --> 00:23:12,710 Speaker 2: has a good LED machine and buy like a pack 466 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:15,660 Speaker 2: of five or whatever and try and do that, like 467 00:23:15,670 --> 00:23:21,810 Speaker 2: even weekly you can do LED heaps. It's really great for inflammation. And peptide masks. 468 00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:23,910 Speaker 2: Once we're kind of past that stage, we can look 469 00:23:23,910 --> 00:23:27,649 Speaker 2: at doing things like peels, lactic peels if they're dry 470 00:23:27,650 --> 00:23:31,250 Speaker 2: acne or salicylic peels if they're oily acne. Most people 471 00:23:31,250 --> 00:23:33,380 Speaker 2: are a dry acne, and they don't realise that that's 472 00:23:33,380 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: why they don't get results. And then for the scarring... 473 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,351 Speaker 2: but even active, even active breakouts I'm finding skin needling 474 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,669 Speaker 2: is great overactive breakouts because it breaks down or the 475 00:23:44,670 --> 00:23:47,510 Speaker 2: damage skin just kind of helps to retrain how the 476 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:51,899 Speaker 2: skin works. So skin needling for both active acne and 477 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:54,180 Speaker 2: scarring is the best thing you can do because it's 478 00:23:54,190 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 2: all about getting rid of damage cells and rebuilding the 479 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,580 Speaker 2: skin structures and anywhere we have got loss of collagen 480 00:24:00,580 --> 00:24:03,869 Speaker 2: from having breakouts in the repeated spot over and over. 481 00:24:03,890 --> 00:24:06,469 Speaker 2: It helps to bring back that collagen and improve the 482 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:08,889 Speaker 2: texture of the skin. Are you turned on Jo? 483 00:24:09,070 --> 00:24:09,710 Speaker 1: I am. I really am. 484 00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:15,389 Speaker 1: I thought so. She hadn't blinked in 3 minutes. 485 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,710 Speaker 1: she's like, like a puppy dog. 486 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,700 Speaker 1: I just love skin 487 00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:24,290 Speaker 1: I feel like if I left you both in this room 488 00:24:24,290 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: for like, three hours 489 00:24:25,609 --> 00:24:26,321 Speaker 1: It would be like on the window of Titanic.And you'd be like 'woah, I'll leave them alone' 490 00:24:26,830 --> 00:24:30,609 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm imagining.  491 00:24:31,330 --> 00:24:31,949 Speaker 1: Lucky this place has no window we can get away with it Jo 492 00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:41,710 Speaker 1: I feel like Joanna... Like imagine Joanna going on a first date. And like 493 00:24:41,710 --> 00:24:44,050 Speaker 1: the guy starts talking about skincare, I feel like you 494 00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:45,150 Speaker 1: would marry him the next day. 495 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,790 Speaker 1: I would. 496 00:24:45,790 --> 00:24:49,130 Speaker 1: She would just start undressing as she's talking. He'd be like, 'your are pants around your ankles' and she's like 'I know'. 497 00:24:57,540 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: Classic. 498 00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:59,290 Speaker 1: Classic Jo. 499 00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:00,041 Speaker 1: I had another question to ask but know I've just been really distracted. I'm flustered. 500 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think...oh I actually would really like to know... 501 00:25:05,030 --> 00:25:07,430 Speaker 1: I'd really like to know about your skincare routine. We 502 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:10,270 Speaker 1: do ask most of our guests what their iskincare routines are like 503 00:25:10,730 --> 00:25:13,321 Speaker 1: Okay, so pretty much everything I've spoken about because I 504 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,740 Speaker 1: am the person that I'm speaking about. I am the adult 505 00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:21,869 Speaker 1: acne person. So gentle cleanser. Benefit Clean from Cosmetix. I actually, 506 00:25:21,869 --> 00:25:24,330 Speaker 1: funnily enough, don't use a straight vitamin B. I'm using 507 00:25:24,330 --> 00:25:30,030 Speaker 1: Cosmetic Surge as well, which has vitamin B in it. Cosmedix Elite Pepoxide, it's like 508 00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:34,430 Speaker 1: an antioxidant serum. I do have the PCA. Sorry. No, 509 00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:40,470 Speaker 1: I do have this Société Clear Skin Boosting Pads which are salicylic like based for 510 00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: like once a week, if I need it. PCA Clearskin. 511 00:25:44,290 --> 00:25:48,510 Speaker 1: I've got, like, five different retinols. And that would be a 512 00:25:48,510 --> 00:25:54,630 Speaker 1: pretty much my go-to stuff. Benefit Clean, Pepoxide and Clearskin I always have, the 513 00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:57,871 Speaker 1: other stuff can kind of change every now and then. But one 514 00:25:57,869 --> 00:25:59,540 Speaker 1: thing I think we should touch on a s well 515 00:25:59,540 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: with adult acne is a lot of people ignore the 516 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,090 Speaker 1: lifestyle factors. And unless you get that in check, you're not 517 00:26:06,090 --> 00:26:08,380 Speaker 1: going to really get the result you're looking for. And 518 00:26:08,380 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: I know that's why I've broken out because I had 519 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:16,500 Speaker 1: a bad eating weekend. But things, anything inflammatory will contribute 520 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: to an inflammatory skin condition. And this includes rosacea and ezcema. Anything inflammatory. 521 00:26:21,369 --> 00:26:27,220 Speaker 1: So your dairy, especially full cream milk and yogurt, I find. Grains, so 522 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: having a lot of breads, pastas, cereals, sugar, of course, 523 00:26:32,770 --> 00:26:35,390 Speaker 1: and processed foods. So I think... 524 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,380 Speaker 1: so everything 525 00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:40,030 Speaker 1: Yeah, everything fun. If you are going through... 526 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:40,940 Speaker 1: Alcohol? 527 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:44,419 Speaker 1: Yeah because it's, your skin's trying...your body's trying to detox and then 528 00:26:44,420 --> 00:26:47,250 Speaker 1: you're throwing alcohol in there, and your skin is just 529 00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:51,689 Speaker 1: one of the various ways your skin... your body gets rid of toxins. So if you're 530 00:26:51,690 --> 00:26:55,811 Speaker 1: drinking a lot of alcohol, you're smoking. You're having a 531 00:26:55,810 --> 00:26:58,821 Speaker 1: lot of milk and yogurt. You're having cereal and toast 532 00:26:58,820 --> 00:27:03,091 Speaker 1: for breakfast. Then that's probably contributing to your problem. And 533 00:27:03,090 --> 00:27:06,531 Speaker 1: unless you start cutting back on those food groups, and 534 00:27:06,530 --> 00:27:08,331 Speaker 1: you don't have to cut it out for forever, you 535 00:27:08,330 --> 00:27:11,291 Speaker 1: might try cutting out milk for one month, see what 536 00:27:11,290 --> 00:27:13,371 Speaker 1: the result is. And then you might try cutting out 537 00:27:13,369 --> 00:27:15,219 Speaker 1: sugar for one month and see what the result is. 538 00:27:15,220 --> 00:27:18,859 Speaker 1: But I can guarantee you what you're eating is contributing 539 00:27:18,859 --> 00:27:21,990 Speaker 1: to your adult acne because it affects your hormones, what 540 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:22,530 Speaker 1: you eat. 541 00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: And, I guess we've had this discussion before, which was like 542 00:27:27,970 --> 00:27:29,970 Speaker 1: also when you've got a breakout, is there like a 543 00:27:29,970 --> 00:27:31,709 Speaker 1: sense of like, I just whatever... 544 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,869 Speaker 1: you've never had a breakout? you can't relate? 545 00:27:32,869 --> 00:27:35,389 Speaker 1: I have. No, I can relate. I just like, I 546 00:27:35,390 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: know what you mean. Like I said, I looked in 547 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,460 Speaker 1: the mirror and you're just like... 548 00:27:38,670 --> 00:27:39,020 Speaker 1: Yeah that was me this morning. 549 00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:41,850 Speaker 1: and you're just like what you like, whatever it is. 550 00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:44,490 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you can't beat yourself up about it 551 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: because everyone gets breakouts 552 00:27:48,190 --> 00:27:48,670 Speaker 1: except Joanna 553 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,550 Speaker 1: Except Joanna, she's a femme bot  554 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Hey. Guys, I do. 555 00:27:52,090 --> 00:27:53,100 Speaker 1: When? she occasionally gets one. 556 00:27:54,390 --> 00:27:56,111 Speaker 1: I saw your instagram live video where she was like, 'I've got these pimples, I'm going to put this stuff...' and I was 557 00:27:56,109 --> 00:27:59,051 Speaker 1: like 'a pimple like? That's nothing'. 558 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,351 Speaker 1: I'm on the pill though so just wait til I come off 559 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,699 Speaker 1: Yes. Can't wait. 560 00:28:06,790 --> 00:28:07,450 Speaker 1: Everyone is waiting for my demise. 561 00:28:09,609 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: We are. We are. We genuinely are. 562 00:28:14,530 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: Start a facebook group like, Bring Jo down. But yeah, when you have a break out, there's no point 563 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: getting upset about it, because that's going to make you stressed 564 00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:24,090 Speaker 1: and stress is another massive, massive factor. Some people have... I had one client... 565 00:28:27,850 --> 00:28:30,700 Speaker 1: I'm still seeing her and we were trying for months trying to 566 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,230 Speaker 1: figure out what it was that was giving her breakouts. 567 00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:36,140 Speaker 1: She was basically on a low fodmaps diet, like doing 568 00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:38,469 Speaker 1: all the right things. She was like, 'I guess I'm 569 00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: kind of stressed with work. But, like isn't everyone?'. Went 570 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: on a holiday, and now her skin is like it's 571 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,940 Speaker 1: completely changed. So stress like, if you're... if you've tried everything, 572 00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: but the stress is still high. That's probably contributing too. So 573 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,290 Speaker 1: when my skin is going crazy and like, you know 574 00:28:54,290 --> 00:28:57,660 Speaker 1: I'm working in a skin clinic, trying to help people, sell 575 00:28:57,660 --> 00:28:59,620 Speaker 1: them products and they're probably looking at me being like 576 00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:03,490 Speaker 1: you need to help yourself first. But you know, like it's normal, 577 00:29:03,490 --> 00:29:05,500 Speaker 1: like you can't beat yourself up about it. If you 578 00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:07,500 Speaker 1: get stressed about it, it's only going to contribute to 579 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,950 Speaker 1: the problem. And it's a short term thing. There's always 580 00:29:09,950 --> 00:29:12,370 Speaker 1: a solution. It's just a matter of finding what works 581 00:29:12,370 --> 00:29:15,380 Speaker 1: for you, not what works for your friend, because it's 582 00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:16,830 Speaker 1: not the same for everyone. 583 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: I think that's something that frustrates me a lot, is that people go 'We 584 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,361 Speaker 1: want to know about your routine' I'm like, but you don't have 585 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:22,990 Speaker 1: the same skin as me. My routine probably isn't going to help you. 586 00:29:25,470 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: I would probably break out more because, you could probably 587 00:29:28,250 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: tolerate Vitamins C really well. Whereas I cannot use vitamin C 588 00:29:31,940 --> 00:29:32,910 Speaker 2: really? 589 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,940 Speaker 2: Vitamin C and acne do not mi. So anyone who has 590 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:39,420 Speaker 2: acne don't use a vitamin C because it's just too stimulating. 591 00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:41,870 Speaker 1: I just can't stress enough the importance of getting a 592 00:29:41,870 --> 00:29:44,610 Speaker 1: routine tailored to your own skin. Like even if you 593 00:29:44,610 --> 00:29:47,340 Speaker 1: are researching ingredients in products and things like that on 594 00:29:47,340 --> 00:29:50,010 Speaker 1: your own, because you can't go and see a skin therapist, 595 00:29:50,530 --> 00:29:53,010 Speaker 1: look for things that are targeted to your skin type 596 00:29:53,010 --> 00:29:55,341 Speaker 1: and concerns not what anyone else is using. Not what 597 00:29:55,340 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: influencers are using, look for something that's going to work for 598 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:58,810 Speaker 1: you 599 00:29:58,820 --> 00:30:00,811 Speaker 1: I like that not what influences are using 600 00:30:01,110 --> 00:30:01,580 Speaker 1: Yeah 601 00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:02,810 Speaker 2: Don't let the influencers influence you. 602 00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:03,450 Speaker 2: Yeah 603 00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:04,660 Speaker 2: because they're lying. 604 00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:09,870 Speaker 2: Except me and Tegan. 605 00:30:09,870 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: Another thing, like if you're young and you can't afford to 606 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,850 Speaker 2: come and do treatments all the time, that's fine. There 607 00:30:14,850 --> 00:30:17,041 Speaker 2: are ways around that. I think it's important to invest 608 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,850 Speaker 2: in what you're using at home because you get to 609 00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:22,870 Speaker 2: use that twice a day, whereas if you're using, you know, 610 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,350 Speaker 2: crappy products. But then having a treatment once a month, 611 00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: you're probably not going to get results at all. 612 00:30:27,010 --> 00:30:30,330 Speaker 2: I think people see it the other way around. They're like 'I should 613 00:30:30,330 --> 00:30:32,541 Speaker 2: be going and getting facials', but they're not doing maintenance 614 00:30:32,540 --> 00:30:35,470 Speaker 2: in between. Well, you can't expect a one off treatment to work magic 615 00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: And some people come in and they're doing skin needling, but they're still 616 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: using their like chemist brand cleanser. And I'm just like, 617 00:30:42,770 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 1: 'Why would you spend all this money if you're still going to use that stuff'. 618 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,810 Speaker 1: You might as well just do skin care at home 619 00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:50,111 Speaker 1: and not even have treatments. 620 00:30:50,590 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: I have my last question. Dating question. 621 00:30:54,010 --> 00:30:54,420 Speaker 1: Oh 622 00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:59,450 Speaker 1: So, I went on a first date not ages ago, but I can't remember, it's been a while. 623 00:31:01,430 --> 00:31:03,810 Speaker 1: I can't remember. Do you remember I messaged you and I said, 624 00:31:03,810 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: I've I had a whitehead above my lip and I squeezed it. 625 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:13,020 Speaker 1: Then it like, my whole lip just like when mental. 626 00:31:13,020 --> 00:31:16,590 Speaker 1: And she's like 'Hannah. Why did you squeeze it?' But it's 627 00:31:16,590 --> 00:31:19,010 Speaker 1: a white head. You can't go on a date with 628 00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:20,541 Speaker 1: a white head pimple above your lip 629 00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah I think you gotta pick your battles when you choose to pop because it can 630 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: just get really inflamed. 631 00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:29,220 Speaker 1: It was really inflamed, and then no amount of concealer would cover it. 632 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:32,670 Speaker 1: It's either the white head or it's a fat lip. 633 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,980 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked... It doesn't look like a pimple anymore. 634 00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:39,950 Speaker 1: So what would your recommendation be in that situation? If 635 00:31:39,950 --> 00:31:41,460 Speaker 1: you don't want to go on a first date with 636 00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: a white head above your lip 637 00:31:43,810 --> 00:31:48,051 Speaker 1: You know what, I probably would have done the same as you and just regretted everything. Because like, 638 00:31:48,050 --> 00:31:51,580 Speaker 1: you panic. But if you weren't going on a first date 639 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:52,250 Speaker 1: and you do have a whitehead... 640 00:31:52,570 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: No, this is a dating question. Specific. 641 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:01,140 Speaker 2: Overline your lips with red lip liner. Just cover it up because 642 00:32:01,140 --> 00:32:04,070 Speaker 2: if you pop it, that bad boy's open. If it starts weeping, you 643 00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:05,321 Speaker 2: can't put anything over. 644 00:32:05,380 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: Well, it was, and I just put like... I dabbed just like half 645 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,430 Speaker 2: a tube of concealer 646 00:32:10,730 --> 00:32:12,110 Speaker 2: yeah to like stop the weeping 647 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,890 Speaker 2: Cover it. 648 00:32:14,060 --> 00:32:15,860 Speaker 2: So if you're going to pop a pimple, you've just got to do it at night when you 649 00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:17,950 Speaker 2: can go straight to bed. Otherwise, it's going to get worse 650 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: Is there something I could have done in the morning 651 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,260 Speaker 1: knowing that I had a date that night? 652 00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard... if it's red. I would just leave it. 653 00:32:27,410 --> 00:32:32,890 Speaker 1: If it's white, I would probably pop it and just 654 00:32:32,890 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: keep my skin as clean as possible for the rest 655 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: of the day and just try not to touch it. 656 00:32:38,140 --> 00:32:40,570 Speaker 1: But ideally, you would have just left it because it's a 657 00:32:40,570 --> 00:32:43,630 Speaker 1: lot easier to cover up a pimple that isn't broken, 658 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,050 Speaker 1: because you could have done all the things you were doing. 659 00:32:46,050 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: Putting concealer on, putting powder on over a closed pimple. It 660 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,740 Speaker 1: would have stayed on a lot better than an open. 661 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,350 Speaker 1: So you were probably better off just to leave it. 662 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,121 Speaker 1: How'd that date go by the way? 663 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,010 Speaker 1: he didn't call back. 664 00:32:59,170 --> 00:33:02,500 Speaker 2: Thank you Tegan for joining us today to talk about 665 00:33:02,510 --> 00:33:09,110 Speaker 2: adult acne. You can find teganmac.skin at @teganmac.skin, in Melbourne, so if 666 00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: you live anywhere else too bad, you're going to miss out. 667 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,450 Speaker 2: But I am doing online consultations. So the world is 668 00:33:14,450 --> 00:33:18,310 Speaker 2: my oyster. I've got a consult with someone in London on Saturday. 669 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: global domination 670 00:33:20,930 --> 00:33:23,390 Speaker 2: Yeah, helping all the skin around the world. It's the least I can do. 671 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: So, now for the products that we didn't know that we needed. 672 00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:35,561 Speaker 1: I think this is one of my favourite parts of 673 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,230 Speaker 1: the whole... 674 00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: Is it? 675 00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: I just love talking... 676 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:39,530 Speaker 1: it's when my sexual innuendos come out 677 00:33:39,530 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: I know, I know. It always makes me laugh. There's been quite a few sexual innuendos. 678 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: So Hannah, what is yours? Because I know you've written an 679 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,380 Speaker 1: article about this before, and you really sold me into 680 00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:50,771 Speaker 1: it 681 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,910 Speaker 1: Yes. So you may not know this, people, if you don't follow 682 00:33:55,910 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: us on instagram @adorebeauty. But I have really unmanageable Hagrid hair. 683 00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:02,260 Speaker 1: She does, can confirm. 684 00:34:03,370 --> 00:34:06,180 Speaker 1: Yes, it's really bad. And I'm actually going to try 685 00:34:06,190 --> 00:34:08,721 Speaker 1: a keratin hair treatment soon, so I'll let you know 686 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,290 Speaker 1: how that goes. But in the meantime, I have a 687 00:34:11,290 --> 00:34:13,460 Speaker 1: few things that I do to try to manage my hair, 688 00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: and I actually have one product that I can't... that 689 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: is the best. The best hair product I've ever used. 690 00:34:20,590 --> 00:34:20,780 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a big call. 691 00:34:21,489 --> 00:34:27,310 Speaker 1: Very... That's not exaggerated. So, it's the Kerastase, what's the name? 692 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: It's the Nutritive 8hr Magic Night Serum. 693 00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:37,730 Speaker 1: Kérastase 8hr Magic Night Serum. I don't... And I said this in the article 694 00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:40,870 Speaker 1: that I wrote about it. I don't like products that have, like, 695 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:51,270 Speaker 1: 'magic and 'miracle'... are you really? are you really magic? is it really a miracle? this is magic, guys. Seriously, 696 00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:54,660 Speaker 1: it's magic. I can't even like, so basically, I remember it 697 00:34:54,780 --> 00:34:58,989 Speaker 1: got put on my desk and I was like 'ugh, another...' And I actually left 698 00:34:58,989 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: it on my desk and was... 699 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,701 Speaker 1: for ages. 700 00:35:00,710 --> 00:35:02,830 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to...I have too many hair 701 00:35:02,830 --> 00:35:05,230 Speaker 1: products that have claims and it doesn't work on my 702 00:35:05,230 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: hair because my hair's just so unmanageable. So I ended 703 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,620 Speaker 1: up taking it home, and I was like, that word 704 00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:12,580 Speaker 1: magic just sucked me in. And I was like, ok I'll try it. 705 00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:15,610 Speaker 1: I put it on my hair, left it on for 706 00:35:15,620 --> 00:35:17,411 Speaker 1: eight hours. Oh my God. 707 00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:20,219 Speaker 1: I vividly remember you coming into the office the next day 708 00:35:20,219 --> 00:35:23,620 Speaker 1: and you did not shut the f*** up about it. You were like, 'Oh my God, Jo. 709 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,530 Speaker 1: Look at my hair. Feel my hair. Oh my God, look how soft it is'. It really was. It was warranted. 710 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,540 Speaker 1: And so you saw me come in the other day 711 00:35:32,540 --> 00:35:34,500 Speaker 1: when I hadn't put it in because I was using 712 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:37,049 Speaker 1: a hair straightener for a shoot, and so I couldn't 713 00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:38,989 Speaker 1: put that in my hair and you saw my hair. 714 00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:42,391 Speaker 1: So when I use this product, it softens. I don't 715 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: know what it does, but it softens and makes it manageable. 716 00:35:46,450 --> 00:35:49,650 Speaker 1: It's really easy to straighten. It's a bit of a 717 00:35:49,650 --> 00:35:52,860 Speaker 1: game changer for me in the hair space. What's the 718 00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: product that you didn't know you needed? 719 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,170 Speaker 1: So mine is, because I have a bit of OCD 720 00:35:57,810 --> 00:36:03,469 Speaker 1: and you notice me using this all the time. I think I have a problem. It's always 721 00:36:03,469 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: at my desk. It is the Dr Bronner's lavender hand sanitizer. I love this 722 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: stuff because it's natural, so I feel like it's okay 723 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,820 Speaker 1: for me to use it constantly throughout the day. It's 724 00:36:14,820 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: just like a little spray nozzle you sprayed into hands, rub 725 00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: them together, and apparently it kills like 99% of germs. 726 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,110 Speaker 1: So I literally use it after I use the bathroom every single time during the 727 00:36:24,110 --> 00:36:27,241 Speaker 1: day because I feel like the bathrooms at work are germy. So 728 00:36:27,530 --> 00:36:28,820 Speaker 1: I just have this thing about... 729 00:36:28,830 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: You don't wash your hands... 730 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,060 Speaker 1: No I do, and then I use that when I come back 731 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,090 Speaker 1: and I also use it before I go to the 732 00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:36,890 Speaker 1: snack station in our room. 733 00:36:37,469 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: She uses it all the time constantly. I hear like 734 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:49,101 Speaker 1: a little spritz. And then like I know Jo's cleaning her hands at her desk. What's really nice 735 00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,029 Speaker 1: about that, because when you're not at your desk, I 736 00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: steal it 737 00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:54,911 Speaker 1: Oh do you? ok you can use it 738 00:36:54,910 --> 00:36:56,420 Speaker 1: Yeah sometimes I just do a little bit of spritz on my hand and it 739 00:36:56,420 --> 00:36:58,870 Speaker 1: smells really nice. It doesn't smell like hand sanitizer. 740 00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't 741 00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:01,140 Speaker 1: Like the ones that you get the supermarket 742 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,510 Speaker 1: The alcoholic ones 743 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,420 Speaker 1: It doesn't smell alcoholy like that. It's got a nice lavender scent 744 00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:07,180 Speaker 1: but they've also got a mint one as well if you hate lavender because 745 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:08,951 Speaker 1: I know lavender is bit of like, some people just really it 746 00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:11,681 Speaker 1: Do they? 747 00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, some people hate things like that 748 00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:15,150 Speaker 1: I love the ell of lavender. 749 00:37:15,370 --> 00:37:17,690 Speaker 1: So do I. But if you don't, there is a peppermint one. But that just made 750 00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:21,469 Speaker 1: me feel like I had toothpaste on my hands. But, whatever. So yeah, 751 00:37:21,469 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: that's my product I didn't know I needed because I'm 752 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,300 Speaker 1: a clean freak. Oh, but I do want to say 753 00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:29,201 Speaker 1: my my trick with that is my plane habit. So 754 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: when I go on a plane, I spray everything down 755 00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:34,210 Speaker 1: and wipe it with a tissue because I can't sit there with the filth. Yeah with the hand sanitizer 756 00:37:37,410 --> 00:37:39,650 Speaker 1: So how do you feel sitting next to me? Because 757 00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:40,910 Speaker 1: my desk is so messy 758 00:37:41,060 --> 00:37:46,850 Speaker 1: Mines messy too though we just have so many products on our desks. So mines messy too. I don't mind that, 759 00:37:46,860 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: it's more just germs. I don't like it. It's not 760 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: messiness that bothers me as much. But if I have 761 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,741 Speaker 1: to go on a plane or public transport, I just 762 00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: get...get quesy at the amount of germs 763 00:37:56,870 --> 00:38:00,820 Speaker 1: well, Joanna's taking public transport today. 764 00:38:00,830 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: Watch out. I've got my myki card ready. 765 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,739 Speaker 1: She actually texted me this morning. She was like... I 766 00:38:05,739 --> 00:38:09,339 Speaker 1: knew you didn't want to take the train but I was like, we need take the train 767 00:38:09,340 --> 00:38:10,030 Speaker 1: into the city. 768 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,830 Speaker 1: Yeah, I find it quite efficient. 769 00:38:11,850 --> 00:38:14,690 Speaker 1: But are you going to spray down the chair? 770 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:18,980 Speaker 1: No I'll just... 771 00:38:18,989 --> 00:38:19,540 Speaker 1: Stand? 772 00:38:19,540 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: I'll just stand and not touch anything 773 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: Will you touch the railing? no you just stand there, try to balance 774 00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:25,860 Speaker 1: I've got hand sanitizer in the bag, too. So I've got one at my desk and one in my bag. 775 00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:30,870 Speaker 1: And actually, to be honest, Jo buy this 776 00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:31,469 Speaker 1: Yeah I repurchase it. 777 00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:33,780 Speaker 1: She doesn't actually get it for free. 778 00:38:33,790 --> 00:38:36,110 Speaker 1: Cause I go through a shitload. 779 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: Do they have a big boy? 780 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,910 Speaker 1: No, they don't. Unfortunately no big boy. Dr Bronner's, can you please 781 00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:42,390 Speaker 1: make a 500ml 782 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,681 Speaker 1: 500ml hand sanitizer. She needs the big boy. 783 00:38:46,690 --> 00:38:47,721 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. 784 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,489 Speaker 1: She's very dirty. 785 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,621 Speaker 1: Now you're doing the innuendo purposefully 786 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:56,690 Speaker 1: Joanna's very dirty. She needs a lot of a hand sanitizer. 787 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,129 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for joining us today. 788 00:39:01,140 --> 00:39:04,020 Speaker 1: Don't forget to subscribe and tell your friends it helps 789 00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: other people discover us. And also we really want to 790 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,971 Speaker 1: know what you thought about this podcast so you if you can leave us a review 791 00:39:09,980 --> 00:39:11,290 Speaker 1: that would be much appreciated.