1 00:00:00,569 --> 00:00:04,511 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to BeautyIQ the podcast. I'm your host, Joanna 2 00:00:04,510 --> 00:00:04,930 Speaker 1: Fleming 3 00:00:04,940 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: and I am your co host Hannah Furst. 4 00:00:07,940 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: So I'm a little bit nervous Joanna, about today's episode 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:12,871 Speaker 1: Why are you nervous Hannah. Talk to me. 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,660 Speaker 1: I never thought that I would talk about this in public. And... 7 00:00:17,810 --> 00:00:18,569 Speaker 1: But see I feel like you mentioned it on episode one, didn't you? 8 00:00:19,150 --> 00:00:23,460 Speaker 1: I did, but I'm really... We're going into detail and 9 00:00:23,470 --> 00:00:25,460 Speaker 1: so on that, what are we talking about on today's episode? 10 00:00:26,329 --> 00:00:30,331 Speaker 1: On todays episode, we're both chatting about our facial hair way. We have 11 00:00:30,340 --> 00:00:34,140 Speaker 1: Ava from Ultra Violette coming to shut all things SPF, which 12 00:00:34,140 --> 00:00:36,949 Speaker 1: you guys should absolutely listen to because most of you 13 00:00:36,950 --> 00:00:40,930 Speaker 1: live in Australia, so it's very necessary you listen it. And, of course, 14 00:00:40,930 --> 00:00:42,449 Speaker 1: our products that we didn't know we needed. 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,540 Speaker 1: Today's cringing convo, we want to revisit a topic from 16 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:53,930 Speaker 1: our first episode, which was laser hair removal. We touched 17 00:00:53,940 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: briefly on facial hair, and we want to talk about 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,590 Speaker 1: my beard. 19 00:01:00,990 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: So Hannah, the other day we were sitting in our desks and she... 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,590 Speaker 1: I actually can't believe we're talking about this on a podcast, because.. 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,789 Speaker 1: Hannah you talked about your anus. As if this is worse. 22 00:01:11,790 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: You don't think this is worse? Anyway, tell the story, tell the story. 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,569 Speaker 1: Ok. So we're sitting at our desks and she's like, 'Oh I hate now 24 00:01:17,750 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: that I'm getting laser on my lip and my chin that 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,970 Speaker 1: I've gotta shave'. and I was like 'Oh, is it that bad?' And she's like 'Yeah, 26 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:27,740 Speaker 1: feel it'. I felt under her chin and I was 27 00:01:27,740 --> 00:01:31,530 Speaker 1: hysterically laughing. It was like a 14 year old boys chin. 28 00:01:37,459 --> 00:01:38,550 Speaker 1: That's exactly what it's like. 29 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:39,290 Speaker 1: Can I feel it now? Did you have a fresh shave this morning? 30 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:41,780 Speaker 1: You're being very judgy about my beard 31 00:01:41,780 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: I think I've probably got more facial hair than you 32 00:01:44,110 --> 00:01:46,461 Speaker 1: Talk us through that Joanna 33 00:01:46,470 --> 00:01:49,571 Speaker 1: So I know that you're probably like 'no don't you'. But I've got full 34 00:01:49,570 --> 00:01:58,220 Speaker 1: sideburns, which I bleach but you don't have any sideburns. See I've got my hair up today so I've really got mine out and about. And then last night, I actually 35 00:01:58,220 --> 00:02:00,470 Speaker 1: had a laser session and I had my mono brow and 36 00:02:00,470 --> 00:02:01,830 Speaker 1: my nose lasered. 37 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,340 Speaker 1: I was wondering about laser on the middle of the eyebrows, cause I didn't think I could do that. 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah cause I've got a really hardcore mono brow that I have to pluck every two days 39 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:11,250 Speaker 1: Lucky for me I only get one every few weeks. 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,580 Speaker 1: You've only got your chin to worry about. 41 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:14,470 Speaker 1: I know. 42 00:02:14,570 --> 00:02:17,340 Speaker 1: So I get a lot of mono brow hair, but then 43 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:20,020 Speaker 1: also I get like on my side profile, just the 44 00:02:20,020 --> 00:02:22,780 Speaker 1: way my nose is shaped, I get like these black hairs that 45 00:02:22,780 --> 00:02:24,950 Speaker 1: sprout out of my nose. And I'm so self conscious about. 46 00:02:24,950 --> 00:02:27,060 Speaker 1: And I forget about it though, because when I'm looking 47 00:02:27,060 --> 00:02:28,421 Speaker 1: in the mirror, I don't see my side profile. 48 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: That's actually true. You wouldn't. To be honest I haven't looked up your nose 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,180 Speaker 1: that closely. 50 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:36,671 Speaker 2: Yes, I just thought I'll just have the little side 51 00:02:36,669 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: bits lasered that'll just kind of get rid of those spiky hairs 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: Was it an add on? 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,130 Speaker 1: No, because the place I went, I was getting my anus done at the same time. 54 00:02:44,650 --> 00:02:46,990 Speaker 1: But no, it wasn't an add on 55 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: So she did it for free. 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: Yes 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: They do my toes for free 58 00:02:51,090 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice of them 59 00:02:53,950 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: I get hair on my big toe 60 00:02:56,310 --> 00:03:00,209 Speaker 1: Yeah so do I. So, no and also Brazilian at this place included anus 61 00:03:01,540 --> 00:03:02,179 Speaker 1: Ugh, God 62 00:03:02,180 --> 00:03:02,701 Speaker 1: The dream, right? 63 00:03:02,710 --> 00:03:04,570 Speaker 1: The Dream. That's what you want. That's what you want to hear. 64 00:03:04,580 --> 00:03:06,029 Speaker 1: You don't have to ask for it. 65 00:03:06,030 --> 00:03:07,500 Speaker 1: But I think we can agree that we both have a 66 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:07,940 Speaker 1: fair bit of facial hair. 67 00:03:08,250 --> 00:03:13,370 Speaker 1: Yeah and look... Someone messaged me last night about, after hearing 68 00:03:13,370 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: the podcast that, she just heard the anus chat, she was like, 69 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,981 Speaker 1: 'I have polycystic ovary syndrome and, you know, I struggled 70 00:03:20,980 --> 00:03:23,410 Speaker 1: a lot with facial hair'. Yeah, and then I was like, 71 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: it just really opened up the conversation for her because she's like, 'I'm really 72 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:27,710 Speaker 1: embarrassed about it'. 73 00:03:27,780 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: It's really hard. 74 00:03:29,130 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: I was like, 'just wait until our next episode comes out because we talk 75 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,049 Speaker 1: about my beard and how I have to shave it so..' 76 00:03:34,060 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: So I hope it makes you feel more comfortable. 77 00:03:37,580 --> 00:03:41,300 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's okay, it's okay. Pluck your hair's on the couch in front of your partner, it's fine. 78 00:03:42,930 --> 00:03:45,541 Speaker 1: So as you know, if you get laser hair removal, 79 00:03:45,540 --> 00:03:48,650 Speaker 1: you have to shave the area. You can't wax or pluck. 80 00:03:48,870 --> 00:03:54,180 Speaker 1: And so I got a man's shaver, so I could 81 00:03:54,180 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: use it on my face. 82 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,250 Speaker 1: Add that to the product you didn't know you needed. 83 00:03:58,730 --> 00:04:01,410 Speaker 1: There's a product I didn't know I'd ever need. And so 84 00:04:01,410 --> 00:04:03,580 Speaker 1: you have to shave... Usually, I pluck my upper lip 85 00:04:03,580 --> 00:04:07,710 Speaker 1: in my chin on the couch, as we know. And yes, 86 00:04:07,710 --> 00:04:11,950 Speaker 1: so I've bean shaving my face. If you get your upper 87 00:04:12,140 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: lip, and your chin, you'll know that you have to do this. 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,771 Speaker 1: So it's not like it's abnormal. I'm very, very sure 89 00:04:17,779 --> 00:04:18,700 Speaker 1: that it's very normal. 90 00:04:18,700 --> 00:04:23,230 Speaker 1: Well let's put a poll out on Instagram. Cause I haven't experienced that yet. I do 91 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:24,270 Speaker 1: get a rogue grey hair in one of my eyebrows. 92 00:04:26,220 --> 00:04:28,469 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get a rogue grey hair in my eyebrows too. 93 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,690 Speaker 1: Do you? 94 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:30,539 Speaker 1: Yes 95 00:04:30,740 --> 00:04:33,070 Speaker 1: And it's really coarse. And I have to like, specifically get it. 96 00:04:33,070 --> 00:04:38,609 Speaker 1: I have to find it. Yes. What's really good is that it's exfoliating the 97 00:04:38,610 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: bottom half of my face. You know how men apparently age at a slower rate 98 00:04:44,380 --> 00:04:44,750 Speaker 1: They age better. 99 00:04:47,050 --> 00:04:49,289 Speaker 1: Yeah so there is a silver lining to every story. 100 00:04:53,540 --> 00:04:56,830 Speaker 1: So welcome to our next guest. Ava Matthews is the co- 101 00:04:56,830 --> 00:05:00,820 Speaker 1: founder of Ultra Violette, which is probably the most hyped brand 102 00:05:00,820 --> 00:05:02,890 Speaker 1: I think we've launched at Adore this year. 103 00:05:02,940 --> 00:05:09,410 Speaker 1: Definitely was, yes. And a sunscreen brand that we both use. You 104 00:05:09,410 --> 00:05:10,849 Speaker 1: got me using sunscreen. 105 00:05:10,940 --> 00:05:13,220 Speaker 1: I think you've got a lot of people using sunscreen. 106 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:14,420 Speaker 1: Have you heard that from customers? 107 00:05:14,420 --> 00:05:17,980 Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually have. It's, like that's the thing, that's 108 00:05:17,980 --> 00:05:19,850 Speaker 1: why we're doing it. You know, it's when we get 109 00:05:19,850 --> 00:05:22,690 Speaker 1: that kind of feedback we're like, 'This is so good. Like, less botox more sunscreen'. I think botox is fine, don't get me wrong. But like, leave that for later. 110 00:05:30,410 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Don't be spending that money if you don't need to. 111 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: We actually spoke about this earlier because I was a sun 112 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,990 Speaker 1: worshipper in my twenties and I would literally go out 113 00:05:36,990 --> 00:05:39,170 Speaker 1: into the sun with no sunscreen on my face. And 114 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:40,841 Speaker 1: I just look back on that now and it makes 115 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,740 Speaker 1: me cringe like I can't believe that I did that 116 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,420 Speaker 1: Ava and I are cringing as you say it. 117 00:05:48,420 --> 00:05:48,540 Speaker 1: Look, you're not alone. 118 00:05:48,540 --> 00:05:51,179 Speaker 1: And we did talk about this in a previous episode. I started getting botox at 119 00:05:51,270 --> 00:05:55,849 Speaker 1: quite a young age, comparatively, because I had so much 120 00:05:55,850 --> 00:05:58,391 Speaker 1: sun damage on my face. And it's taken so long 121 00:05:58,390 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: to reverse that damage. Yeah, and I wish that I 122 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,370 Speaker 1: had, started on sunscreen earlier. What made you decide to start Ultra Violette? 123 00:06:05,980 --> 00:06:09,859 Speaker 1: A few reasons. And I mean, I guess getting people 124 00:06:09,860 --> 00:06:13,260 Speaker 1: to wear sunscreen every day is a great byproduct. But Bec and I, 125 00:06:13,490 --> 00:06:17,461 Speaker 1: my co founder, we were working in a product development department 126 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:20,330 Speaker 1: and a beauty retailer, and we'd launched a lot of 127 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: sunscreens for them. And so I guess we saw the 128 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to do something a little bit different than what 129 00:06:26,089 --> 00:06:28,190 Speaker 1: had historically been done. I guess there was a lot 130 00:06:28,190 --> 00:06:33,350 Speaker 1: of men in white coats and Cancer talk and, like 131 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,909 Speaker 1: really ugly packaging and really ugly formulations, and we were like, 132 00:06:36,910 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: we can just we can do this. We can make 133 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: sunscreen sexy. I think we can do it. It was 134 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,180 Speaker 1: kind of a relatively untapped part of the beauty market, 135 00:06:44,260 --> 00:06:46,290 Speaker 1: and it's not, that's not why we did it. But 136 00:06:46,290 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: we just saw the opportunity and we had experience in it. 137 00:06:49,410 --> 00:06:51,670 Speaker 1: And we knew it was something that you need to 138 00:06:51,670 --> 00:06:54,850 Speaker 1: wear every day and that people weren't. And so we 139 00:06:54,850 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: just thought, let's make sunscreen cool. 140 00:06:57,630 --> 00:07:00,870 Speaker 1: And I think the interesting thing that you mentioned when we first started stocking 141 00:07:00,870 --> 00:07:04,180 Speaker 1: Ultra Violette was that your focus isn't on scaring people about 142 00:07:04,180 --> 00:07:07,710 Speaker 1: getting cancer, but it's on the anti-ageing side of sunscreen. 143 00:07:07,710 --> 00:07:10,500 Speaker 1: Like it is the most powerful anti -ageing ingredients you 144 00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:11,830 Speaker 1: can have in your routine. 145 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:16,141 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. And you know, cancer is obviously very important and, 146 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:20,230 Speaker 1: you know, Call Time on Melanoma is an amazing charitable organisation 147 00:07:20,230 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: that are doing a lot of great work to raise 148 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,330 Speaker 1: awareness about melanoma, and I don't want to undermine that. 149 00:07:26,130 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: It's a huge issue, but a larger percentage of people 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,570 Speaker 1: aren't touched by a skin cancer, what they're dealing with 151 00:07:31,570 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: every day is their skin ageing and pigmentation and sagging 152 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: and wrinkles. So I mean, we wanted to really create 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,070 Speaker 1: a brand that spoke to that And was a part of 154 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:45,390 Speaker 1: your skin care routine and sat really beautifully with your 155 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,460 Speaker 1: other skincare products and really nicely under your makeup. So 156 00:07:48,490 --> 00:07:51,031 Speaker 1: was kind of more about like that every day, facial 157 00:07:51,030 --> 00:07:53,610 Speaker 1: sunscreen rather than like something you took to the beach 158 00:07:53,610 --> 00:07:56,230 Speaker 1: or something you know, you took on holidays, but obviously 159 00:07:56,230 --> 00:07:58,950 Speaker 1: you still can and you should. But it was really about, 160 00:07:59,340 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: I guess, ingraining those daily habits into people. 161 00:08:02,460 --> 00:08:05,701 Speaker 1: And why do you think people hate wearing sunscreen so much? 162 00:08:05,710 --> 00:08:07,401 Speaker 1: I definitely did. 163 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:11,410 Speaker 1: Look, I think sunscreens have come a long way. I 164 00:08:11,410 --> 00:08:13,180 Speaker 1: think a lot of us are kind of scarred from 165 00:08:13,180 --> 00:08:17,700 Speaker 1: our childhoods. You know, mums like rubbing it on our...like, 166 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,550 Speaker 1: all you want to do is get into the water, 167 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: but you'd have to stay there and wait for your 168 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: sunscreen to sink in or you like it'll be in 169 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: your eyes and burning your eyes or...and I think you're 170 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,489 Speaker 1: covered when you're a kid because your mum's putting it 171 00:08:29,490 --> 00:08:30,869 Speaker 1: on you. You don't really have a choice, but I 172 00:08:30,870 --> 00:08:33,270 Speaker 1: think it's kind of teenage age where you should start 173 00:08:33,270 --> 00:08:36,150 Speaker 1: wearing it every day. And you know, your mum's probably 174 00:08:36,150 --> 00:08:37,931 Speaker 1: telling you to wear it every day, or your doctor 175 00:08:37,929 --> 00:08:41,690 Speaker 1: or whoever but you tried and you got pimples. Or 176 00:08:42,220 --> 00:08:45,460 Speaker 1: your skin was really greasy or your eyes were burning 177 00:08:45,460 --> 00:08:48,250 Speaker 1: or you know any foundation you tried to put over the 178 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:52,950 Speaker 1: top of it was balling or peeling or separating or whatever. 179 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,150 Speaker 1: You know, Kate said this in a Sydney Morning Herald article, 180 00:08:56,700 --> 00:08:58,790 Speaker 1: slash the Age article, a couple of weeks ago. That 181 00:08:58,790 --> 00:09:02,179 Speaker 1: it's a grudge step. It's kind of something you're told 182 00:09:02,179 --> 00:09:05,541 Speaker 1: you have to wear. You know you probably should wear it, 183 00:09:05,540 --> 00:09:08,730 Speaker 1: but it's not.. historically hasn't been that nice to wear, 184 00:09:08,740 --> 00:09:11,179 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of reasons, but I think that 185 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:13,690 Speaker 1: sunscreens have come a long way, and a lot of 186 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:17,420 Speaker 1: that kind of, trauma from your youth is not really 187 00:09:17,429 --> 00:09:18,699 Speaker 1: relevant anymore. 188 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: And one thing you didn't mention was the fact that 189 00:09:21,330 --> 00:09:24,750 Speaker 1: they actually smell nice. Unlike traditional sunscreeny smell 190 00:09:26,620 --> 00:09:29,700 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sunscreeny smell. You have really bad memories of that 191 00:09:29,700 --> 00:09:32,870 Speaker 1: in your childhood and smelling bad 192 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,330 Speaker 1: and that's the thing that gives people PTSD. 193 00:09:34,330 --> 00:09:38,690 Speaker 1: Yeah, the PTSD and the like, the sand sticking to it and literally like, 194 00:09:38,690 --> 00:09:42,099 Speaker 1: basically burying itself into your skin and you, like three 195 00:09:42,100 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: days later, you go the toilet and find sand in your vagina. 196 00:09:47,740 --> 00:09:48,970 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm having memories. 197 00:09:48,980 --> 00:09:51,551 Speaker 1: It's like all a part of that. 198 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,689 Speaker 1: And I think what was really unique about Ultra Violette 199 00:09:55,690 --> 00:09:59,530 Speaker 1: was the serum. What made you guys decide to do a serum? 200 00:09:59,540 --> 00:10:02,161 Speaker 2: You know, obviously, when we're looking at the whole sunscreen market, 201 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,850 Speaker 2: most of the products, creams or lotions and we thought like, 202 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,980 Speaker 2: Let's try and find something that's really lightweight because that's 203 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: one of the other problems people have with sunscreen that's 204 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: thick and greasy. So if you could make something that 205 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,100 Speaker 2: feels like nothing on the skin, people probably gonna wear 206 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:19,500 Speaker 2: it more. Just something different. There are a lot of 207 00:10:19,500 --> 00:10:21,181 Speaker 2: sun screens in the market. There are a lot of 208 00:10:21,179 --> 00:10:25,671 Speaker 2: sunscreens in Australia, so I guess to differentiate yourself and create 209 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:28,130 Speaker 2: a brand that's worth people investing in. Got to stand 210 00:10:28,130 --> 00:10:28,569 Speaker 2: out a bit. 211 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: Well I liked that you launched three products that are particularly tailored 212 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: to specific skin types, so you weren't trying to put 213 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,540 Speaker 2: out a product that's like one size fits all because 214 00:10:37,540 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: you know that with a sunscreen, different formulas suit different 215 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,569 Speaker 2: skin types. So a lot of people ask us 'which 216 00:10:43,950 --> 00:10:45,980 Speaker 2: Ultra Violette product do I buy?'. So can you give us a 217 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: little bit of a rundown of what each one is 218 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: for, or who it's for 219 00:10:49,090 --> 00:10:52,411 Speaker 2: So Queen Screen, as you mentioned before, which is the 220 00:10:52,410 --> 00:10:57,949 Speaker 2: serum that's really lightweight. It's quite hydrating. Leaves a really 221 00:10:57,950 --> 00:11:01,770 Speaker 2: beautiful glow on the skin. It just, it works really 222 00:11:01,770 --> 00:11:05,301 Speaker 2: beautifully as a primer. So that's probably suited to most 223 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:08,990 Speaker 2: skin types if you're if your oily, maybe not, because 224 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,670 Speaker 2: it does leave your skin looking very dewy. So if you're oily, 225 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:14,089 Speaker 2: you might be a bit more conscious of that kind 226 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: of finish so that might not be where you want to go, 227 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: but for most skin types, like normal to dry, to mature, 228 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:23,350 Speaker 2: that's probably a really good option if you like glow 229 00:11:23,470 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: Can I say why I like that one. Because when I 230 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,170 Speaker 1: go to the Tan on a Saturday, the Tan walking track, 231 00:11:28,910 --> 00:11:35,061 Speaker 1: and I...like, there's always hot guys at the Tan, and 232 00:11:35,059 --> 00:11:37,820 Speaker 1: so I just put on that Queen Screen, and my skin 233 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:39,980 Speaker 1: just looks glowing and I don't need anything else, but 234 00:11:39,980 --> 00:11:40,730 Speaker 1: I also am ebing sun smart. 235 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: You are. Yeah, we get a lot of people saying that 236 00:11:44,690 --> 00:11:47,811 Speaker 2: they love wearing it without foundation and in fact that 237 00:11:47,820 --> 00:11:51,189 Speaker 2: using Queen Screen has meant that they no longer need 238 00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:55,641 Speaker 2: to wear foundation. So that's just a great byproduct I 239 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,311 Speaker 2: guess of that. Then Supreme Screen is like, a kind 240 00:11:58,309 --> 00:12:02,780 Speaker 2: of just like your 'does all', wonder kind of sunscreen. It's probably the one 241 00:12:02,780 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: that if you were like I'm not sure what to try, 242 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,020 Speaker 2: I'd say just go with Supreme Screen because you can't 243 00:12:07,020 --> 00:12:10,530 Speaker 2: do wrong. We call it our hydrating one. It is hydrating, 244 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:14,220 Speaker 2: but it's not going to leave you greasy, or looking oily. 245 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:16,970 Speaker 2: It's a bit more of a satin finish than Queen Screen. And 246 00:12:18,190 --> 00:12:21,030 Speaker 2: it's a really amazing primer. And we've actually got a lot 247 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:25,610 Speaker 2: of people who are replacing their daily moisturiser with Supreme 248 00:12:25,610 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: Screen because it is so hydrating. So that's, Supreme Screen is 249 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,700 Speaker 2: pretty much great for everyone. Again, if you're like super 250 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:38,339 Speaker 2: super oily and maybe like really acne prone you probably still 251 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:41,689 Speaker 2: could wear that, but, you know, maybe might not be 252 00:12:41,690 --> 00:12:43,689 Speaker 2: a number one, but I'd still say that for most 253 00:12:43,690 --> 00:12:47,569 Speaker 2: people like, I read every single review on Adores website, on 254 00:12:47,710 --> 00:12:51,709 Speaker 2: our website, on all the forums and so I, like, 255 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,250 Speaker 2: see a lot of people who like I didn't really 256 00:12:53,250 --> 00:12:54,910 Speaker 2: think this would work for me because I've got acne, 257 00:12:54,910 --> 00:12:56,690 Speaker 2: but I really love it, and it doesn't make me 258 00:12:56,690 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: break out. So again, that's probably just the like, safest option for 259 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,890 Speaker 2: people if they don't know what they want. And then 260 00:13:02,890 --> 00:13:07,220 Speaker 2: we've got Clean Screen, which is a zinc only mineral. 261 00:13:07,230 --> 00:13:12,230 Speaker 2: And that is probably best for sensitive skin, really highly 262 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:15,530 Speaker 2: sensitive skin and if you're really oil because it is a 263 00:13:15,530 --> 00:13:20,620 Speaker 2: bit more mattifying, and potentially acne prone. So zinc is in 264 00:13:20,620 --> 00:13:24,610 Speaker 2: itself quite a mattifying gradiant, does have a level of hydration, 265 00:13:24,610 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: but not as much as the others. 266 00:13:26,350 --> 00:13:28,099 Speaker 1: I think it's probably a good time to tell us what 267 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: the difference between physical and a chemical sunscreen is. We have different levels 268 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,179 Speaker 1: of knowledge. 269 00:13:36,010 --> 00:13:39,690 Speaker 2: There's so much information on the Internet about, like the 270 00:13:39,690 --> 00:13:41,380 Speaker 2: difference and what's better and what's worse.. 271 00:13:41,380 --> 00:13:42,460 Speaker 2: Very conflicting isn't it. 272 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:45,429 Speaker 2: It is really conflicting, and there's no one that comes 273 00:13:45,429 --> 00:13:49,100 Speaker 2: out and says definitively, This is the right. This is the 274 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:52,970 Speaker 2: correct information. Even dermatologists have differing point of views. Based 275 00:13:52,970 --> 00:13:57,051 Speaker 2: on all the research we've done, physical sunscreens are basically comprised 276 00:13:57,050 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 2: of two ingredients, which is titanium dioxide and zinc. And 277 00:14:02,090 --> 00:14:05,590 Speaker 2: they are, well, they're probably better for sensitive skins. In 278 00:14:05,590 --> 00:14:07,890 Speaker 2: terms of the way that they work, there's not a 279 00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:11,661 Speaker 2: huge amount of difference in how a physical sunscreen works 280 00:14:11,660 --> 00:14:15,550 Speaker 2: versus a chemical, they both... people used to say that 281 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:22,460 Speaker 2: physical sunscreens reflected all the UV and that's not actually true. 282 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:26,801 Speaker 2: They reflect about 5 to 10% and then absorb the rest. 283 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:32,291 Speaker 2: Whereas a chemical absorbs all of the rays. But it's 284 00:14:32,290 --> 00:14:34,881 Speaker 2: not like one's a blocker and ones and ones an absorber, as 285 00:14:34,930 --> 00:14:38,311 Speaker 2: people used to think. So in terms of how they work, 286 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:42,070 Speaker 2: there's not a huge amount of difference. Zinc's are great 287 00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:46,590 Speaker 2: for blocking UV B. So the burning rays. There are 288 00:14:46,590 --> 00:14:50,390 Speaker 2: obviously a lot of technological advances recently, which have meant 289 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:54,690 Speaker 2: that you know that they're better as UVA protectors. But 290 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:59,750 Speaker 2: chemical sunscreens have historically been better at, kind of that full, like, 291 00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:01,171 Speaker 2: broad spectrum package 292 00:15:01,180 --> 00:15:05,781 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was recommended a physical sunscreen because I have rosacea 293 00:15:07,010 --> 00:15:11,340 Speaker 2: on my cheeks. So I was recommended a physical to reduce, 294 00:15:11,500 --> 00:15:15,330 Speaker 2: where possible, the amount of heat that was being absorbed 295 00:15:15,330 --> 00:15:17,780 Speaker 2: into my skin and then causing me to flare up 296 00:15:17,790 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: because I react to sun heat and sunscreen as well. So 297 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: that was recommended for me. But as you said, it 298 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,100 Speaker 2: still does absorb and turn that into heat, just maybe 299 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: not as much as the chemical 300 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,700 Speaker 2: Not as much. And the heat that has been created 301 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:37,740 Speaker 2: by chemicals is a really small amount, it's actually not that much. The other 302 00:15:37,810 --> 00:15:40,250 Speaker 2: reason they might have recommended a physical is because if 303 00:15:40,250 --> 00:15:42,791 Speaker 2: it contains think as I said, it's really anti inflammatory. 304 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,700 Speaker 2: So that's why people with any kind of skin irritation 305 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:53,931 Speaker 2: or inflammation issues are generally prescribed a physical. Whereas I personally 306 00:15:53,930 --> 00:15:57,090 Speaker 2: prefer a chemical, I think you can get a nicer texture. 307 00:15:57,100 --> 00:15:59,430 Speaker 2: I was just going to say that, people are probably thinking, 308 00:15:59,430 --> 00:16:00,740 Speaker 2: 'why wouldn't I just use a physical?' 309 00:16:01,380 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah 310 00:16:01,950 --> 00:16:04,100 Speaker 2: But it's because you can get a nicer texture from a chemical 311 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:04,541 Speaker 2: sunscreen 312 00:16:04,540 --> 00:16:07,430 Speaker 2: you can, and you can go a lot higher and generally, 313 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:12,020 Speaker 2: like this is obviously a generalisation. But the amount of UVA 314 00:16:12,020 --> 00:16:15,950 Speaker 2: that's blocked from chemical is higher. I mean, look, I'll 315 00:16:15,950 --> 00:16:18,291 Speaker 2: always say this. The best sunscreen is the one that 316 00:16:18,290 --> 00:16:19,490 Speaker 2: you want to wear every day. 317 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:20,390 Speaker 2: Yeah, very very true. 318 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,300 Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter. Like, chemical or physical unless you've got some 319 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:29,150 Speaker 2: sort of, you know, skin inflammation issue that requires you 320 00:16:29,150 --> 00:16:34,100 Speaker 2: to wear a mineral sunscreen or it's a personal preference, 321 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:35,781 Speaker 2: like just find one you want to wear every day 322 00:16:35,780 --> 00:16:36,330 Speaker 2: and wear it. 323 00:16:36,540 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: Any sun protection is better than no sun protect, right? 324 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:39,630 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 325 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,979 Speaker 2: And I also see on your instagram, on Ultra Violettes instagrams a lot, 326 00:16:42,990 --> 00:16:47,150 Speaker 2: is you have to wear sunscreen in winter, particularly in Australia. 327 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,450 Speaker 2: Can you tell us a bit about that. 328 00:16:48,530 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: Well, look, Cancer Council says that you should be wearing 329 00:16:51,730 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: sunscreen for any days where the UV goes, the UV level 330 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,630 Speaker 2: goes over, I think its 2 or 3. 331 00:16:59,140 --> 00:16:59,780 Speaker 2: 3. 332 00:17:04,740 --> 00:17:07,970 Speaker 1: Thanks. I should know this. 333 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:08,420 Speaker 1: Expert over here. Where'd that come from? 334 00:17:08,430 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: I did an Instagram post on it. It was really hard to find the information 335 00:17:10,250 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: It is really hard. Because there's so much...there's so many conflicting points of view 336 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: But the Cancer Council did say it was over three and 337 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,290 Speaker 1: most parts of Australia in winter at some point in 338 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:23,261 Speaker 1: the day, it will be over three. 339 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,121 Speaker 2: That's absolutely... there's like I think there's a month in 340 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,869 Speaker 2: Sydney where the average UV index is like maybe under three. But... 341 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,420 Speaker 2: I think that might be July, that's just based on averages. 342 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:35,630 Speaker 2: In Melbourne it might be a couple of months, but like, look, 343 00:17:35,630 --> 00:17:36,939 Speaker 2: if you're going to get into a habit, just do 344 00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:41,180 Speaker 2: it every day. The other thing is, the UV index is 345 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: referring to UBV levels. So that's like the burning aspect, it 346 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: doesn't really cover the UVA, which is the one that does 347 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,871 Speaker 2: the daily damage and gives you pigmentation, wrinkles, sagging, all 348 00:17:53,869 --> 00:17:58,369 Speaker 2: of the fun stuff. So they're not really talking like, referring 349 00:17:58,369 --> 00:18:00,689 Speaker 2: to that. So if you're skiing, for example and you've 350 00:18:00,690 --> 00:18:03,139 Speaker 2: got the reflection of the snow, plus you're at the 351 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:08,861 Speaker 2: higher altitude, you're going to get more UVA damage. Yeah, but absolutely, like, 352 00:18:09,109 --> 00:18:11,090 Speaker 2: just if you're going to do it for 10 months, 353 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: like why you going to stop for the two months year. Like, 354 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,740 Speaker 2: just be safe. Just put it on once. 355 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Has sunscreen always been like, a big part of your routine? 356 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,521 Speaker 1: For me, it's been a new thing. I think it's, 357 00:18:20,530 --> 00:18:22,490 Speaker 1: I think as soon as I started to see ageing, 358 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:24,841 Speaker 1: I was like, 'Oh my God, what am I doing? 359 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: What have I done?' 360 00:18:25,650 --> 00:18:28,700 Speaker 2: Yeah, no embarrassingly it hasn't. I wish I was one of 361 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:31,050 Speaker 2: those people that was like 'my mum kept me in a bubble'. 362 00:18:31,060 --> 00:18:36,989 Speaker 2: I had to wear... my mum made me wear one of those weird caps with the flaps on the back. 363 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: a legionnaires hat. 364 00:18:40,910 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 365 00:18:41,580 --> 00:18:44,020 Speaker 2: My mum used to tell me she would use baby oil 366 00:18:45,770 --> 00:18:46,830 Speaker 1: Mine did too. 367 00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:47,490 Speaker 2: So did mine. It was the sixties and seventies. 368 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:49,460 Speaker 2: My mum went to the solarium when I was a teenager. 369 00:18:49,470 --> 00:18:55,071 Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%. I've still got friends in the UK who go to the solarium. And I'm like, that's why you're getting botox. 370 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:56,591 Speaker 2: Shame on you 371 00:18:56,590 --> 00:18:56,889 Speaker 1: Yeah. 372 00:18:56,900 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us just thought you needed a 373 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,689 Speaker 1: sunscreen when you went to the beach. And that  thinking has only very 374 00:19:03,690 --> 00:19:04,630 Speaker 1: recently changed. 375 00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: Very recently. 376 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,580 Speaker 1: Like I would say, you know, 2015 maybe people started 377 00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:11,930 Speaker 1: talking about it as an anti-ageing 378 00:19:12,540 --> 00:19:14,020 Speaker 2: There'd be still people listening to this that are going, 'Oh my God, am I meant to be doing that everyday' 379 00:19:16,830 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: But also, I mean Retinol has become so popular. 380 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: exactly and laser. 381 00:19:20,170 --> 00:19:20,591 Speaker 2: Yes 382 00:19:20,590 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: and all of those kind of treatments where you need, 383 00:19:23,740 --> 00:19:27,100 Speaker 2: you know, you actually, your skin has become more sensitive 384 00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:30,581 Speaker 2: to sun so that's the other thing, like I guess... and I think all that, 385 00:19:30,580 --> 00:19:34,700 Speaker 2: and I think I'm a part of this beauty chat forum 386 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,590 Speaker 2: where people are like 'oh I'm 21. I'm thinking about botox and filler like 387 00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:42,710 Speaker 2: any other skin care advice?' and literally everyone will jump 388 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:46,619 Speaker 2: on and be like 'just start wearing SPF'. If you start wearing SPF now 389 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: you'll be fine, like you're starting ahead of most people. 390 00:19:50,050 --> 00:19:53,571 Speaker 1: Or just use skin care in general. I love that people's first thing is 391 00:19:53,570 --> 00:19:55,660 Speaker 1: 'I'm just going to go and get botox' 392 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,310 Speaker 1: Yeah but, when I was not educated about skincare or SPF, that 393 00:19:59,310 --> 00:20:00,730 Speaker 1: was my first thought. 394 00:20:02,820 --> 00:20:03,460 Speaker 1: That's why we created this podcast. 395 00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:07,129 Speaker 1: Please don't make the same mistake that I made and start getting botox at such 396 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:09,970 Speaker 1: a young age. No, really Like I was looking at 397 00:20:09,970 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: my skin at 25. So sun damaged, so textured, just pigmentation, 398 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And I just wish that I knew 399 00:20:20,050 --> 00:20:23,070 Speaker 1: back then that, that was such a simple fix. 400 00:20:23,070 --> 00:20:24,781 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people... 401 00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:25,340 Speaker 1: Face tan, just use face tan. That's all you need to do 402 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,419 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 403 00:20:28,420 --> 00:20:31,619 Speaker 2: The sunscreens are really good these days. And the fake tans are 404 00:20:31,619 --> 00:20:35,169 Speaker 2: really good these days. No one needs to bake themselves. If 405 00:20:35,170 --> 00:20:38,361 Speaker 2: someone could just create like, a fake tan that was basically 406 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,831 Speaker 2: almost like a tattoo that would be great. 407 00:20:42,030 --> 00:20:44,521 Speaker 1: Hey we maybe, I think we might all use a different Ultra Violette 408 00:20:44,780 --> 00:20:45,460 Speaker 1: sunscreen 409 00:20:45,470 --> 00:20:46,270 Speaker 1: Yeah we do. 410 00:20:46,609 --> 00:20:47,910 Speaker 1: We do. Which one do you use? 411 00:20:48,340 --> 00:20:48,750 Speaker 1: Clean. 412 00:20:48,750 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: I use Supreme. 413 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I use Queen. I use all of them, but Queen is probably my go-to. 414 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:55,831 Speaker 1: Supreme's my go-to because I'm the lazy one here. And 415 00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:59,170 Speaker 1: I'd just like to do that instead of primer and moisturiser in the morning. 416 00:20:59,180 --> 00:21:00,660 Speaker 2: Do you wear it instead of moisturiser? 417 00:21:00,820 --> 00:21:02,290 Speaker 1: Yeah, is that okay? 418 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:06,871 Speaker 1: Nah that's good. I just...a lot of people who are quite dried need a moisturiser underneath. But 419 00:21:06,869 --> 00:21:09,430 Speaker 1: then I've heard obviously, a lot of people do wear 420 00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:11,469 Speaker 1: it without, but it makes me really happy when people use that as their daily moisturiser. 421 00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:15,091 Speaker 1: I use a really good hydrating serum, and then I do 422 00:21:15,090 --> 00:21:17,460 Speaker 1: that over the top. And I usually don't wear makeup 423 00:21:17,460 --> 00:21:18,470 Speaker 1: to work so that's it... 424 00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:24,581 Speaker 1: So I use Clean Screen. I really like the texture of that. As I said, 425 00:21:24,590 --> 00:21:27,710 Speaker 1: I have more sensitive skin, so that seems to work 426 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,770 Speaker 1: for me. But I do like to use a moisturiser 427 00:21:30,770 --> 00:21:31,550 Speaker 1: underneath that one 428 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: But I do... I have the Queen Screen for when I 429 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,071 Speaker 1: want to go out and impress because it's so... 430 00:21:36,770 --> 00:21:37,550 Speaker 1: When you're walking the Tan. 431 00:21:37,540 --> 00:21:40,050 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I'm in my short shorts, my lulu lemon short 432 00:21:40,050 --> 00:21:45,300 Speaker 1: shorts and my Queen Screen. No one speaks to me. Men just walk straight... 433 00:21:45,310 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: You need to get yourself a dog 434 00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:52,490 Speaker 1: Yes. My Queen screen, my lulu lemon short shorts and a dog 435 00:21:53,130 --> 00:21:55,041 Speaker 2: one of my really good friends used to come and 436 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,830 Speaker 2: borrow my dog to go walk Bondi to Bronte. Yeah, we had a 437 00:21:58,830 --> 00:22:00,670 Speaker 2: staffy and she would be like, 'I'm coming to pick up Polly' 438 00:22:00,670 --> 00:22:02,890 Speaker 2: Great Tip 439 00:22:03,730 --> 00:22:03,980 Speaker 1: I was like great, means I don't have to walk her. Off you go. 440 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,270 Speaker 1: very good tip. 441 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:12,450 Speaker 1: Thank you Ava for joining us. Ava is from Ultra Violette, for anyone who missed that, 442 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,070 Speaker 1: you could buy Ultra Violette online at Adore 443 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:16,609 Speaker 1: we will linking all of the products that we spoke to you in 444 00:22:16,609 --> 00:22:17,619 Speaker 1: the episode notes. 445 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: Thank you 446 00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:28,109 Speaker 1: Product we didn't know we needed. That time again 447 00:22:28,109 --> 00:22:30,909 Speaker 1: It's that time again. What is the product that you 448 00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:32,050 Speaker 1: didn't know you needed this week? 449 00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:34,790 Speaker 2: So my pick this week, which I recommended to quite 450 00:22:34,790 --> 00:22:37,949 Speaker 2: a few people, is the Vita Liberata, Body Blur. 451 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,780 Speaker 1: And when you said this earlier, you were like 'Oh yes, 452 00:22:41,780 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: that's mine'  and I was like 'nooo' cause I wanted to steal it. Because legit, this stuff's amazing. 453 00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: It makes your skin look airbrushed. Obviously, with the name 454 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,010 Speaker 1: it is for your body, you technically can use it 455 00:22:55,010 --> 00:22:57,020 Speaker 1: on your face, but I'd only recommend you use it on your body. 456 00:22:57,020 --> 00:22:59,229 Speaker 1: It's like a body makeup. It's got a little bit 457 00:22:59,230 --> 00:23:01,980 Speaker 1: of shimmer in it, and it just makes your skin 458 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:06,510 Speaker 1: look so amazing, like it's been Photoshopped and I wore 459 00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:10,490 Speaker 1: it to a master class, and it was Tennille Jay's masterclass, 460 00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:12,521 Speaker 1: and I told her that I had it on, and 461 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,270 Speaker 1: then I sent it to it, and she's obsessed with 462 00:23:14,270 --> 00:23:15,030 Speaker 1: it now as well. 463 00:23:15,210 --> 00:23:16,060 Speaker 1: It is amazing. 464 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:18,210 Speaker 1: It's so good and so many people that I talked 465 00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:20,570 Speaker 1: to at that master class about it, then went and 466 00:23:20,570 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: bought it as well because it looks so good. It 467 00:23:22,980 --> 00:23:26,580 Speaker 1: just makes you look flawless. like any veins or old, 468 00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: patchy tan, it covers all of that. It's just so good. 469 00:23:29,690 --> 00:23:32,690 Speaker 1: I think the old patchy tan... I remember I went to get 470 00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:35,331 Speaker 1: a spray tan and usually the girl that does it is amazing. 471 00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:38,139 Speaker 1: And I got this girl that just... It was the weirdest thing spray tan I've ever had. 472 00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: She did it so far away and then close. And 473 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,530 Speaker 1: then it was completely patchy. And I'm too polite to 474 00:23:44,530 --> 00:23:47,790 Speaker 1: say 'Sorry, that's not what I wanted'. Anyway... 475 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: I don't think you're that polite. I've been to a restaurant with you 476 00:23:50,890 --> 00:23:53,410 Speaker 1: I was, I think I was naked and I just 477 00:23:53,410 --> 00:23:54,570 Speaker 1: didn't quite know how... 478 00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:55,369 Speaker 1: It's a different format different. 479 00:23:55,380 --> 00:23:57,811 Speaker 1: There's a different format to a restaurant when they put 480 00:23:57,810 --> 00:23:58,889 Speaker 1: mushrooms in my food. 481 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: she does not take it well. 482 00:24:00,170 --> 00:24:04,470 Speaker 1: I do not take it well at all. And I got 483 00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:08,071 Speaker 1: home and it just was, I even washed it off. And 484 00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:11,230 Speaker 1: there was, my arm was completely patchy and so I was like, I know 485 00:24:11,230 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: what to do. And I did the Vita Liberta Body Blur 486 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,510 Speaker 1: and it just smoothed everything out. 487 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,550 Speaker 2: Yes, it does. Anything, any imperfections. It just makes it 488 00:24:19,550 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: look better. So women with like, spider veins on their legs, 489 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,909 Speaker 2: I feel like it makes a difference with that. I've 490 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: got a few coming up, thanks for that mum. I highly, 491 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: highly recommend this. 492 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,100 Speaker 1: The only thing I'll say is it's quite messy, in the 493 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: sense that you need to use a glove. 494 00:24:33,970 --> 00:24:36,500 Speaker 1: I use my hands. I don't find it messy. I do 495 00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:39,330 Speaker 1: it naked, so I don't have my clothes on. I'm 496 00:24:39,330 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: not trying to move around in clothes 497 00:24:40,810 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: Don't you find though that it does stain yours hands a little bit. 498 00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: I wash my hands straightaway. Doesn't stain. 499 00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:48,379 Speaker 1: Maybe I just put so much on. 500 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,341 Speaker 1: You probably do. Knowing you, you probably way too much on. You go through a tube everytime you use it. 501 00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:59,980 Speaker 1: Do you remember, we were out in Sydney one night, and I'd put so much Body Blur on and Mieke, our... category manager. 502 00:25:02,970 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: So Mieke, our category manager was like 'You put way too much fake tan on' 503 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,710 Speaker 1: And I was like, 'Mieke, it's too late now, we're 504 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:15,371 Speaker 1: out event. Thanks. You could have just kept that to yourself this time. 505 00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:17,031 Speaker 1: 'I can't take a shower here right now' 506 00:25:17,030 --> 00:25:18,970 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't right now. 507 00:25:19,170 --> 00:25:21,170 Speaker 2: So Hannah what's your product that you didn't know you needed 508 00:25:21,859 --> 00:25:24,660 Speaker 2: So the product that I didn't know I needed is 509 00:25:24,660 --> 00:25:28,890 Speaker 2: hair clips. I've been using the Valet hair clips. Actually, 510 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,060 Speaker 2: funny story. I saw them on an instagram post. I 511 00:25:32,060 --> 00:25:33,930 Speaker 2: sent them to our hair care buyer was like, please 512 00:25:33,930 --> 00:25:39,291 Speaker 2: get these. Within a month, we got them. And I... you 513 00:25:39,290 --> 00:25:41,611 Speaker 2: always make fun of me when I come to events 514 00:25:41,609 --> 00:25:43,351 Speaker 2: Well you rock up and you're like, 'Oh, I didn't have time to do my hair' 515 00:25:44,780 --> 00:25:46,770 Speaker 2: because it takes me like an hour to curl my 516 00:25:46,770 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: hair properly. I'm actually getting better now that I have 517 00:25:49,410 --> 00:25:53,331 Speaker 2: that new Curl Bar, which is really easy to curl my hair 518 00:25:53,330 --> 00:25:55,250 Speaker 2: with now. But I usually can't be bothered curling my 519 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:59,260 Speaker 2: hair and, or washing my hair for that matter. So 520 00:25:59,260 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: the hair clips are really good because they make you 521 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,301 Speaker 2: look really... They still make your hair look cute and done. 522 00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:08,990 Speaker 2: She puts one in each side. She does this thing that's kind of like, next to her eyebrows 523 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:12,670 Speaker 1: Yeah, and my mum says, I look really young. She's like, 'Wow, 524 00:26:12,670 --> 00:26:17,379 Speaker 1: you look so young today' and I'm like, 'Oh it's the hair clips'. Always. She's like, 'you look 525 00:26:17,380 --> 00:26:21,820 Speaker 1: like a child'. And you know, I wear that like, Paddington 526 00:26:21,820 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: Bear jacket. Yeah so I wear two leopard print hair clips, and 527 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,390 Speaker 1: then I wear a Paddington Bear jacket, and it's what... 528 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,750 Speaker 1: It's exactly how I used to dress when I was 529 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:34,630 Speaker 1: five years old. And my mom always looks at me when 530 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:37,450 Speaker 1: I'm dressed like that, she's like 'you just look like 531 00:26:37,450 --> 00:26:39,429 Speaker 1: when you were five' and I was like, 'that's what 532 00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:40,109 Speaker 1: I'm going for'. 533 00:26:40,109 --> 00:26:42,580 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a compliment 534 00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:46,490 Speaker 1: Everything I do is to like, try to make myself look younger. 535 00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm joking. I'm fine with getting old. 536 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:50,250 Speaker 1: She's not. 537 00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:56,420 Speaker 1: I'm totally fine with it. I'm totally at peace with it. And... I'm 538 00:26:56,420 --> 00:26:57,629 Speaker 1: ageing gracefully. 539 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,580 Speaker 1: So, so it's over. I did it. I talked about it. 540 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,050 Speaker 1: You all know about my beard now and the fact that I 541 00:27:08,050 --> 00:27:08,900 Speaker 1: shave it. 542 00:27:08,910 --> 00:27:09,490 Speaker 1: And my mono brow. 543 00:27:10,270 --> 00:27:13,591 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all okay, guys. We're all in this together. It's 544 00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: not quirky. 545 00:27:16,210 --> 00:27:16,861 Speaker 1: No one should feel ashamed. We're all here to share. 546 00:27:16,869 --> 00:27:19,081 Speaker 1: And I know I call these quirky beauty habits, but 547 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,861 Speaker 1: they're not 548 00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:21,859 Speaker 1: It's just shit people do behind closed doors. 549 00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:26,871 Speaker 1: Exactly, and don't talk about. I'm loving some of the reviews 550 00:27:26,869 --> 00:27:28,300 Speaker 1: that we've been getting. Like, ' Yes, for the anus add on' 551 00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:34,740 Speaker 1: Yes. Keep reviewing on Apple podcast by the way, because we live for these reviews 552 00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:36,821 Speaker 1: We actually text each other every time and we say we want 553 00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 1: to be friends with you. 554 00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:39,260 Speaker 1: Sometimes I read them before bed. 555 00:27:43,340 --> 00:27:47,180 Speaker 1: You've got nothing else to do. Love it. Okay, guys, well we'll see you next week. 556 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:51,659 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for joining us today. 557 00:27:51,740 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: Don't forget to subscribe. And tell your friends it helps 558 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,841 Speaker 1: other people to discover us. And also we really want 559 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,500 Speaker 1: to know what you thought about this podcast, so if you 560 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:02,050 Speaker 1: can leave us a review that would be much appreciated.