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Get $1,000 off Vanta when 0:00:35.770 --> 0:00:42.190 you go to Vanta comm slash unsupervised. That's vanta.com/supervised for 0:00:42.190 --> 0:00:47.290 $1,000 off. Welcome to Unsupervised Learning, a security, AI, and 0:00:47.290 --> 0:00:50.019 meaning focused podcast that looks at how best to thrive 0:00:50.020 --> 0:00:54.310 as humans in a post AI world. It combines original ideas, 0:00:54.310 --> 0:00:57.820 analysis and mental models to bring not just the news, 0:00:57.820 --> 0:01:05.319 but why it matters and how to respond. All right, 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.350 welcome to unsupervised learning. This is Daniel Miessler. Okay. Leigh 0:01:08.380 --> 0:01:13.000 Honeywell had probably the best or coolest little quote here about, uh, 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:17.470 the CrowdStrike incident. Any sufficiently bad software update is indistinguishable 0:01:17.470 --> 0:01:20.340 from a cyberattack. Love that. Had a wonderful couple of 0:01:20.340 --> 0:01:24.179 days celebrating my buddy Jason's birthday, and it's actually coming 0:01:24.180 --> 0:01:27.090 up on the 27th and mine is on the 26th, 0:01:27.090 --> 0:01:29.730 so it's a little bit in the future. But we 0:01:29.730 --> 0:01:32.040 celebrated last weekend and it was super fun. Did a 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.590 presentation for a UN group on the future of AI 0:01:34.590 --> 0:01:38.429 and employability, and that should be coming out soon to YouTube. 0:01:38.430 --> 0:01:41.910 So look for that soon. Doing another UL dinner in Vegas. 0:01:41.910 --> 0:01:44.100 This is going to be cool. Mad props to all 0:01:44.100 --> 0:01:46.590 the people who had to hustle and grind this weekend 0:01:46.590 --> 0:01:49.770 as a result of Blue Friday, and let's get into it. 0:01:49.770 --> 0:01:51.870 So I've been mostly heads down on the class, so 0:01:51.870 --> 0:01:56.730 I haven't written any new essays. Security, CrowdStrike. Outage I 0:01:56.730 --> 0:02:00.180 think we all know the deal at this point. Banks, airlines, hospitals, 0:02:00.180 --> 0:02:05.250 media companies. It was probably the largest IT outage. I 0:02:05.250 --> 0:02:08.140 think it's probably up for debate and people are probably 0:02:08.139 --> 0:02:10.450 still talking about it. So I'm trying to come up 0:02:10.450 --> 0:02:12.700 with that. Lessons learned here. But perhaps the biggest one 0:02:12.700 --> 0:02:16.750 is around PR. So at first the CEO came out 0:02:16.750 --> 0:02:20.800 and basically said something like, don't worry, this isn't a 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:25.119 security problem, and that's not the way to go because 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.910 the internet's basically down as a result of you. So 0:02:27.910 --> 0:02:29.980 I don't think that was the right stance to take. 0:02:29.980 --> 0:02:33.079 He did much better later on. I think his subsequent 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.980 posts were much better, and where he eventually landed was great. But, um, 0:02:36.980 --> 0:02:39.110 I like what my buddy Chris Hoff said about it, 0:02:39.110 --> 0:02:42.020 which was, uh, this was not a security attack against 0:02:42.020 --> 0:02:45.170 CrowdStrike or its customers, but an outage caused by a 0:02:45.169 --> 0:02:49.070 bad software update. And this was just he was proposing 0:02:49.070 --> 0:02:53.299 a possible option to to what was actually said. And 0:02:53.300 --> 0:02:56.100 I like this take by Chris. And Chris has been 0:02:56.100 --> 0:02:59.580 a CISO, uh, through some pretty rough times. So he 0:02:59.580 --> 0:03:02.250 knows the deal. And another thought I had is that 0:03:02.250 --> 0:03:05.970 this would be probably much less likely to happen if, say, 0:03:05.970 --> 0:03:10.170 everything was Microsoft, right? If the EDR was just part 0:03:10.169 --> 0:03:14.370 of Microsoft. Kind of similar to the way that defender 0:03:14.370 --> 0:03:16.919 is getting so good that it's almost as good as 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.850 any third party option. And I think this is the 0:03:19.850 --> 0:03:23.930 natural flow, right? You start off with a cool app idea. 0:03:23.930 --> 0:03:27.620 It eventually becomes like a big company, and eventually that 0:03:27.620 --> 0:03:29.750 moves into the platform. And you see that with all 0:03:29.750 --> 0:03:34.520 sorts of things like location services, antivirus and stuff like that. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.100 So I think that's likely to just happen with EDR 0:03:37.100 --> 0:03:40.280 as well. And the whole point is, maybe Microsoft would 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.660 have handled that better or avoided it if the testing 0:03:43.660 --> 0:03:46.960 and everything like that was more deeply integrated with the 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.450 OS itself, because they are the OS and they are 0:03:49.450 --> 0:03:52.840 the other one. Now with this, you actually get a 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:57.400 different problem, which is more eggs in fewer baskets, right? 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.910 So there's a trade off there. But I feel like 0:04:00.910 --> 0:04:03.970 this is the natural trend to basically have everything that's 0:04:03.970 --> 0:04:06.760 awesome eventually end up in the platform itself. Got a 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.300 new threat actor called Crystal Ray using open source tool 0:04:10.300 --> 0:04:15.760 called SSH snake to move laterally across networks, exfiltrate credentials 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.420 and deploy crypto mining software. GitHub has warned developers about 0:04:19.420 --> 0:04:24.700 a social engineering campaign by Lazarus, which is North Korean group, 0:04:24.700 --> 0:04:29.740 and they're targeting developers in cryptocurrency gambling and cybersecurity. And 0:04:29.740 --> 0:04:31.750 essentially what they do is kind of what happened with 0:04:31.750 --> 0:04:35.280 the Linux attack recently. They gained trust over time, and 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.279 then they start submitting malware once you trust them to 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:42.300 submit things. Special thanks to sponsor dropzone. And I wrote 0:04:42.300 --> 0:04:45.270 this copy myself here, which I'm not going to read here, 0:04:45.270 --> 0:04:49.409 but definitely check out dropzone dot I and check out 0:04:49.410 --> 0:04:52.200 a demo there. So not only are they sponsoring here, 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.440 but I'm actually an advisor for them as well. That's 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.099 how much I believe in their stuff. Palmer Luckey, the 0:04:58.100 --> 0:05:01.040 guy who created Oculus, is now making AI weapons for 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.330 Ukraine through his company Anduril think it's Anduril that looks 0:05:05.330 --> 0:05:07.489 like a Lord of the rings or some kind of 0:05:07.490 --> 0:05:12.170 fantasy thing. See if this identifies it. Open source? Nope. 0:05:12.170 --> 0:05:14.870 Can't identify it. All right. Yeah. So he started Anduril 0:05:14.900 --> 0:05:18.260 to build AI driven weapons like drones and submarines, but 0:05:18.260 --> 0:05:22.000 they're now being used by the Pentagon and sent to Ukraine. 0:05:22.029 --> 0:05:25.510 China is installing massive amounts of solar and wind energy, 0:05:25.510 --> 0:05:31.240 adding ten gigawatts of wind and solar capacity every two weeks, 0:05:31.510 --> 0:05:36.070 which is like building five large nuclear plants every week. 0:05:36.070 --> 0:05:39.370 And this really, really makes me mad because I, the 0:05:39.370 --> 0:05:41.740 US needs to be doing this. Every time I fly. 0:05:41.740 --> 0:05:45.219 I fly over wide open country that is getting hit 0:05:45.220 --> 0:05:48.700 by the sun. And it's windy down there and it's like, oh, 0:05:48.700 --> 0:05:51.339 we don't have enough jobs for people and we don't 0:05:51.339 --> 0:05:54.010 have enough energy, and we have way too much open 0:05:54.010 --> 0:05:57.219 land being hit by the sun and wind. Why can 0:05:57.220 --> 0:06:00.430 we not do this, especially when we know that AI 0:06:00.430 --> 0:06:02.740 is going to need all this energy and we just 0:06:02.740 --> 0:06:04.989 we need to put people to work and we need 0:06:04.990 --> 0:06:08.409 the energy, and we have the wide open space and 0:06:08.410 --> 0:06:11.370 we need to build more housing. So it's like this 0:06:11.370 --> 0:06:16.740 is the perfect opportunity for a massive, like FDR type event, 0:06:16.740 --> 0:06:21.300 which hopefully the next president gets on this because yeah, 0:06:21.300 --> 0:06:24.810 I do not like the idea of China having all 0:06:24.810 --> 0:06:27.510 this extra energy to do whatever with and us not 0:06:27.510 --> 0:06:30.839 having it. Iran and China are increasing their foreign influence efforts, 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:35.089 using social media to stoke discord and promote anti-U.S. narratives. 0:06:35.089 --> 0:06:36.920 And this is coming out of Google. They blocked over 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:42.020 10,000 instances of Chinese influence activity in Q1 alone, thanks 0:06:42.020 --> 0:06:45.110 to Nudge Security for sponsoring the US Department of Justice, 0:06:45.110 --> 0:06:49.310 seize two domains and search nearly 1000 social media accounts 0:06:49.310 --> 0:06:54.740 used by Russian actors to spread pro-Kremlin disinformation. Cloudflare says 0:06:54.740 --> 0:06:58.360 nearly 7% of all internet traffic is malicious, with DDoS 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:03.400 attacks making up over 37% of all mitigated traffic. And 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.339 UK police arrested a 17 year old suspect of being 0:07:06.339 --> 0:07:10.030 part of the scattered spider hacking group involved in the 0:07:10.030 --> 0:07:15.190 2023 MGM resorts ransomware attack, also known as this is 0:07:15.190 --> 0:07:19.480 the person responsible or the group responsible for making Defcon 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.180 way farther north this year. It's now in the convention center, 0:07:23.270 --> 0:07:25.940 pretty far north of the city, which it looks like 0:07:25.940 --> 0:07:29.090 it's going to be pretty cool, especially for the different villages, 0:07:29.090 --> 0:07:31.250 because all the villages are going to be together. Looking 0:07:31.250 --> 0:07:35.630 forward to that real time video transcription with timestamps. Whisper 0:07:35.630 --> 0:07:41.060 Diarization Diarization. Yeah, that's right, Beijing support has seen China 0:07:41.060 --> 0:07:43.760 make up ground in the AI race, but it still 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.700 has handcuffed a bunch of AI Companies with really tight 0:07:47.700 --> 0:07:51.480 restrictions and a lot of these are just purely political. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.720 So they're basically saying this is going to be good 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.590 for control and bad for speed. So I think unless 0:07:58.590 --> 0:08:01.530 they steal some sort of pinnacle AI tech, which they 0:08:01.530 --> 0:08:04.650 probably are going to, as per Leopold and as per 0:08:04.650 --> 0:08:07.200 a lot of people talking about this, I think ultimately, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.430 if that doesn't happen, this closed nature of their approach 0:08:11.430 --> 0:08:14.520 to AI is going to hurt them, especially relative to 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.860 the US, which is just running with scissors, which you 0:08:16.860 --> 0:08:20.940 can see because, um, meta just released llama three, uh, 0:08:20.940 --> 0:08:23.880 405 B today and is basically giving it out to 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.280 the world. And by the way, it's not fully open source, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.480 but it's much more open source than other pinnacle models. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.380 But anyway, that stuff is coming out quickly. And so 0:08:34.380 --> 0:08:37.820 the US is innovating very, very fast. And you can't 0:08:37.820 --> 0:08:39.920 do that when you're China. And you have to be 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.470 very careful what you put in the model. Because if 0:08:42.470 --> 0:08:46.130 you train the model on open knowledge, the model is 0:08:46.130 --> 0:08:49.040 going to figure out how reality actually is. And China 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.830 doesn't want to present the world as it actually is. 0:08:51.830 --> 0:08:54.830 They want to present the filtered version of the world, 0:08:54.830 --> 0:08:58.160 which means they have to do so much more protection and, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:03.130 you know, post-training tricks or, um, nuking the knowledge inside 0:09:03.130 --> 0:09:07.120 of the, the training data to not have the real 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.280 knowledge of the world. That's another way to do it, 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.770 to train the model and have it just be worse. 0:09:11.770 --> 0:09:14.560 It'll just be worse. It'll be a worse representation of 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.640 actual reality. It'll be like, yeah, Tiananmen never happened or whatever. So, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:22.720 you know, they're not oppressive. The US is bad. You know, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.679 they are the true free society or whatever kind of 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.349 garbage they want to, you know, put in there. But 0:09:28.350 --> 0:09:32.189 that's extra work for them. That's extra friction for them, 0:09:32.190 --> 0:09:35.219 that's going to slow them down. And so that's one thing. 0:09:35.220 --> 0:09:37.260 It's going to be slower. The second thing is the 0:09:37.260 --> 0:09:39.270 people who want to go fast, who are in China. 0:09:39.270 --> 0:09:41.070 So they're super smart and they want to go fast 0:09:41.070 --> 0:09:44.430 and they're more like Western oriented. They're just going to leave. 0:09:44.429 --> 0:09:46.890 They're going to go go to the US, to Canada, 0:09:46.890 --> 0:09:49.340 to EU. Not all of them, of course, but a 0:09:49.340 --> 0:09:52.670 lot of them. So ultimately this makes you slower as 0:09:52.670 --> 0:09:56.179 China the country. And it also produces more brain drain 0:09:56.179 --> 0:09:58.670 because people don't want to be there. Kaiser Permanente is 0:09:58.670 --> 0:10:02.030 using AI, wearables and other tech to bring health care 0:10:02.030 --> 0:10:05.689 directly to patients. Very AI forward approach from them, which 0:10:05.690 --> 0:10:08.090 I really appreciate. It's all in the implementation, of course, 0:10:08.090 --> 0:10:10.520 so we'll see how that goes. But I like the 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.120 open mind. Sam Altman revealed that OpenAI's Voice Alpha mode 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.300 release is coming later this month, and llama three one 0:10:17.300 --> 0:10:19.910 just came out today, so you know they really need 0:10:19.910 --> 0:10:22.220 to speed that up. And I love what my buddy 0:10:22.220 --> 0:10:25.490 Matthew Berman said about this. He's a YouTube AI guy 0:10:25.490 --> 0:10:30.050 and he says, let's denormalize companies demoing products earlier than 0:10:30.050 --> 0:10:33.860 three months before release. So Microsoft Recall did this. Apple 0:10:33.860 --> 0:10:37.720 intelligence did this definitely, because it's not coming out until 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:43.120 like after September, maybe even not until beginning of 2025. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:47.080 And OpenAI did this big demo on Sora and GPT 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.840 for voice, and it's still not out yet. And that 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.910 was a long time ago. I mean, that was ancient 0:10:51.910 --> 0:10:54.490 history at this point. So yeah, three months, I think 0:10:54.490 --> 0:10:56.410 is like the max. You should do that. Don't even 0:10:56.410 --> 0:10:59.140 talk about it if it's not coming out. Andre Karpathy 0:10:59.140 --> 0:11:03.930 is launching Eureka Labs to create AI teaching assistants for education. 0:11:03.929 --> 0:11:06.240 And yeah, this is going to be really cool. They're 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.110 basically going to have AI teachers, which is just fantastic. 0:11:10.110 --> 0:11:13.410 Google has launched Project Oscar, open source platform that enables 0:11:13.410 --> 0:11:16.949 development teams to create AI agents that monitor issues, manage 0:11:16.950 --> 0:11:20.640 bugs and handle various aspects of the software lifecycle. Omega's 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.300 AI will map how Olympic athletes win. They're using AI 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:28.580 to map how Olympic athletes win by analyzing their full performance, 0:11:28.580 --> 0:11:31.970 not just start and finish times. That includes motion sensors 0:11:31.970 --> 0:11:35.150 on athletes clothing to capture every detail of their movements. 0:11:35.150 --> 0:11:39.229 Compelling us is thinking about new trade restrictions that can 0:11:39.230 --> 0:11:44.210 stop Nvidia from selling its HG, H20, AI GPUs to China, 0:11:44.210 --> 0:11:46.699 and people are worried. Investors are worried that it could 0:11:46.700 --> 0:11:50.720 cost Nvidia like $12 billion in revenue because, you know, 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.640 China is big and they buy a lot of stuff 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.490 if they're allowed to. But I don't think that'll ultimately 0:11:55.490 --> 0:11:58.699 matter for that long. So not too worried. As an 0:11:58.700 --> 0:12:03.920 Nvidia stockholder, Beijing scientists have developed the world's smallest and 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:11.330 lightest solar powered drone just 4.21g with a 200 millimeter wingspan. 0:12:11.330 --> 0:12:14.740 I want one of these. They can fly nonstop during 0:12:14.740 --> 0:12:18.849 the day because the motor is lighter and more efficient, 0:12:18.850 --> 0:12:22.630 and because the thing is so light itself, the actual 0:12:22.630 --> 0:12:24.970 craft is so light itself. I would love to mess 0:12:24.970 --> 0:12:30.670 with that. A Florida yeah, it's usually either Florida man. Yeah, 0:12:30.670 --> 0:12:35.229 a Florida man. It's it's either a Florida man or DNS. 0:12:35.260 --> 0:12:39.780 They're responsible for all problems. Uh, this person got arrested 0:12:39.780 --> 0:12:43.380 for shooting down a Walmart delivery drone claiming it was 0:12:43.380 --> 0:12:46.650 spying on him. Typical of Florida men, shooting at drones 0:12:46.650 --> 0:12:49.140 is treated as a felony, similar to firing at a 0:12:49.140 --> 0:12:53.790 passenger aircraft. That's probably because the bullets keep going and 0:12:53.790 --> 0:12:57.120 might hit other things in the air. Unlikely, but turns 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.329 out they they don't launch off into orbit or move 0:13:00.330 --> 0:13:03.199 towards the sun. They just fall down, potentially on people's 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.020 heads or their pets or whatever. Waymo wants to bring 0:13:06.020 --> 0:13:09.920 robotaxis to SFO. They already have approval in the city, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.890 but they need separate approval for the airport. And Microsoft 0:13:12.890 --> 0:13:16.310 is laid off. Their Dei team, probably one of them. 0:13:16.309 --> 0:13:19.880 I assume there's many, many, but laid off its Dei 0:13:19.910 --> 0:13:23.270 team saying it's no longer business critical. I'm not sure 0:13:23.270 --> 0:13:26.630 if this no longer business critical is an actual quote 0:13:26.630 --> 0:13:30.560 from Microsoft leadership. It must be because this article, which 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:35.900 is a Business Insider article, probably quoted that correctly. But okay. 0:13:35.900 --> 0:13:39.710 I mean, I think the overall sentiment is worth noting, 0:13:39.710 --> 0:13:41.810 which is a lot of people are doing this. A 0:13:41.809 --> 0:13:45.230 lot of people are rolling back Dei as like a 0:13:45.230 --> 0:13:49.370 prime directive and realizing it should be about merit, which 0:13:49.370 --> 0:13:51.940 I think is a good thing. I just don't want 0:13:51.940 --> 0:13:55.570 them to go back to just hiring people that look 0:13:55.570 --> 0:13:58.870 like you and sound like you, and respond to questions 0:13:58.870 --> 0:14:01.719 like you, because then you get rid of diversity, which 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:06.100 is actually bad because you end up with like these, 0:14:06.130 --> 0:14:08.650 these blinders. And you have to make sure that your 0:14:08.650 --> 0:14:13.209 meritocracy is has a wide enough top of filter, right, 0:14:13.210 --> 0:14:15.209 top of funnel. So you want to make sure you're 0:14:15.210 --> 0:14:19.440 getting everyone there into this meritocracy filter and not just 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.920 looking for certain types of people because you think they, um, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.650 they come out of the bottom of the filter more often. Right? 0:14:25.650 --> 0:14:30.150 So I think the concept of Dei is 100% correct, 0:14:30.150 --> 0:14:34.260 and we need to 100% keep doing it. The implementation 0:14:34.260 --> 0:14:36.960 that we've done over the last few years has been bad, 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.610 and it's good to see that rolling back. Andreessen Horowitz 0:14:40.610 --> 0:14:43.460 argues that bad government policies are now the biggest threat 0:14:43.460 --> 0:14:46.400 to tech startups, which they call little tech. And they 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.940 basically launched a manifesto about little tech. And I did 0:14:49.940 --> 0:14:52.670 an analysis of it in fabric. Probably should have included that. 0:14:52.670 --> 0:14:57.500 But it's basically pro startup stuff that's bottom line, which 0:14:57.500 --> 0:15:00.530 makes sense because they're a VC. Essentially, Google is shutting 0:15:00.530 --> 0:15:04.580 down its URL shortening service. so any links created with 0:15:04.580 --> 0:15:07.040 it will stop working. If you have any important links 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.620 using the service, you want to migrate them. I'm pretty 0:15:09.620 --> 0:15:12.980 sure Google will soon sell YouTube to like Johnson and 0:15:12.980 --> 0:15:16.160 Johnson and Gmail to Luxottica, and then go full speed 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:20.720 into the what the f are we doing business? Whatever 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:25.100 business that is, it's the single most perplexing company like 0:15:25.100 --> 0:15:27.460 I've ever seen. They were first on j'en ai. They 0:15:27.460 --> 0:15:30.970 wrote the paper for Transformers, and now they're completely lapped 0:15:30.970 --> 0:15:34.600 by not just OpenAI, but anthropic as well. And now 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:39.520 they're being lapped by meta, by meta in an open 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.280 source model. How are you like fifth place when you 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.590 have all the people and all the money and you 0:15:44.590 --> 0:15:47.740 actually invented the tech? They're like the opposite of Cloudflare, 0:15:47.740 --> 0:15:51.010 which does small things really well that add up over 0:15:51.010 --> 0:15:54.910 time because Google is like slowly dismantling everything. It's getting 0:15:54.910 --> 0:15:56.680 rid of all the best things that it has. The 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:00.070 main thing Google is growing is the Google graveyard. Such 0:16:00.070 --> 0:16:03.610 a colossal waste of money and talent. And these failures 0:16:03.610 --> 0:16:06.340 should be studied for centuries as an example of what 0:16:06.340 --> 0:16:10.270 happens when you don't lead with UX focused product management. 0:16:10.270 --> 0:16:13.900 Product management, like being in charge, like thinking about the 0:16:13.900 --> 0:16:17.220 customer and the total package and the total experience of 0:16:17.220 --> 0:16:20.160 this product or service that you're launching, as opposed to 0:16:20.190 --> 0:16:23.610 throw shit at the wall. Focused engineering and engineering is 0:16:23.610 --> 0:16:26.820 in charge of product. It makes no sense whatsoever. Like 0:16:26.820 --> 0:16:30.600 like it is the most inefficient, like large organization I 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.600 can imagine that I've ever seen. All right, and Google rant, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.690 I need a section just for Google rant. Humans. Iran 0:16:36.690 --> 0:16:40.010 backed Houthi rebels said they were behind a drone attack 0:16:40.010 --> 0:16:44.060 on Tel Aviv, killed one person and injured several others. 0:16:44.090 --> 0:16:47.720 USA household income distribution by state. A Reddit user shared 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.620 a detailed visualization of household income distribution across different states 0:16:51.620 --> 0:16:55.040 in the US. New meta analysis shows that tooth brushing 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.880 can tooth brushing. Not heard it like that kind of verb. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.690 Is that tooth brushing? It's a gerund. Anyway, brushing your 0:17:02.690 --> 0:17:07.690 teeth can significantly reduce hospital acquired pneumonia in ICU patients. 0:17:07.690 --> 0:17:12.070 Simple intervention could lead to 17,000 fewer deaths each year. 0:17:12.070 --> 0:17:14.770 This is a this is a big thing I've realized recently. Um, 0:17:15.010 --> 0:17:18.250 or just gotten the religion on, which is all the 0:17:18.250 --> 0:17:22.060 bacteria like in your teeth and gums, that's related to 0:17:22.060 --> 0:17:25.360 inflammation in the body. It's also related to the heart 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.980 being in really bad shape. So, uh, really important that 0:17:28.980 --> 0:17:32.490 you kind of treat that infection in your mouth or 0:17:32.490 --> 0:17:35.550 the potential for infection in your mouth, like having a 0:17:35.550 --> 0:17:38.189 disease throughout your entire body. And they're talking about it 0:17:38.190 --> 0:17:41.400 going into the the brain as well, and just being 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:45.900 this state of disease in your body and really, really 0:17:45.900 --> 0:17:49.350 focused on the mouth. So I've upped my game around 0:17:49.350 --> 0:17:53.070 that significantly as a result. That was probably like a 0:17:53.070 --> 0:17:56.250 year ago or whatever. Young adulthood is no longer one 0:17:56.250 --> 0:17:59.969 of life's happiest times. Research shows that young adulthood is 0:17:59.970 --> 0:18:02.490 now one of the most unhappy times in life, with 0:18:02.490 --> 0:18:07.560 a significant rise in despair among people, especially women from 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.980 18 to 25. And if you've been following my stuff, 0:18:10.980 --> 0:18:13.590 I have lots of reasons for that which we will 0:18:13.590 --> 0:18:16.970 not go into most of Gen Z is using TikTok 0:18:16.970 --> 0:18:21.950 for health advice. 56% are using TikTok for wellness, diet 0:18:21.950 --> 0:18:25.550 and fitness, 34% are relying on it as their main 0:18:25.550 --> 0:18:29.780 source of health information. About a third ask HN, which 0:18:29.780 --> 0:18:33.740 is Hacker News every day, feels like prison. A mid-thirties 0:18:33.770 --> 0:18:35.750 guy in tech feels trapped in a 9 to 5 0:18:35.750 --> 0:18:38.540 job he no longer cares about, and is struggling to 0:18:38.540 --> 0:18:41.600 build a business on the side. This is the reason 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.810 I do unsupervised learning. This is the mission of unsupervised 0:18:44.810 --> 0:18:49.460 learning is giving people mental models and frames and ways 0:18:49.460 --> 0:18:54.590 to think about the world, and actual methodologies for getting 0:18:54.590 --> 0:18:58.460 true meaning in their lives. This problem right here is 0:18:58.460 --> 0:19:01.310 pretty much the whole game, and the way I plays 0:19:01.310 --> 0:19:04.010 into that is I think AI is going to make 0:19:04.010 --> 0:19:06.990 it worse as it removes jobs before we have the 0:19:06.990 --> 0:19:09.899 ability to have it increase jobs. There's going to be 0:19:09.900 --> 0:19:13.140 that that, uh, chasm in the middle. When that happens, 0:19:13.140 --> 0:19:16.350 when the jobs come away, this meaning crisis is going 0:19:16.350 --> 0:19:19.530 to get way worse. And that's what we are here for. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.690 All right. Got a cool button here. Read the full 0:19:21.690 --> 0:19:25.590 newsletter online. Appreciate the team doing that. Ideas. Sam Altman 0:19:25.619 --> 0:19:30.030 is simultaneously building AGI and doing big studies on UBI. 0:19:30.060 --> 0:19:33.090 Super obvious what he's doing, in fact. Oh, this is 0:19:33.090 --> 0:19:35.400 kind of hot off the press here, because I just 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.250 did this analysis with fabric, and I saw a tweet 0:19:38.250 --> 0:19:42.150 thread about this as well, the UBI study that came out. 0:19:42.150 --> 0:19:44.910 This is not in the newsletter. This just happened this morning. 0:19:44.910 --> 0:19:48.510 This UBI study that OpenAI put out, which was funded 0:19:48.510 --> 0:19:52.439 by essentially Altman. It turns out at least one of 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.890 the interpretations and some of the manual work that I 0:19:54.890 --> 0:19:58.520 just did doing AI analysis on the results, it did 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.010 not increase a lot of the things that they were 0:20:01.010 --> 0:20:04.730 hoping their spinning it as a very positive outcome, and 0:20:04.730 --> 0:20:08.720 I'm sure they said there is some minor positive outcomes, 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.510 but in general it did not encourage people to be 0:20:11.510 --> 0:20:14.330 more ambitious. It did not encourage people to go and 0:20:14.330 --> 0:20:17.810 get more work. It didn't do that. So it looks 0:20:17.810 --> 0:20:20.440 a bit bad now. I think we need to do 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.430 more analysis to say for sure that UBI is not 0:20:24.430 --> 0:20:27.070 going to massively help, um, or it's not going to 0:20:27.070 --> 0:20:31.750 help people be more ambitious or more creative or more productive, 0:20:31.750 --> 0:20:34.240 which which I think is the hope. The hope is 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.480 that or the idea here is that ambitious people are 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:39.940 lucky people who have the time and energy to go 0:20:39.940 --> 0:20:42.750 and be ambitious, and that when you look at people 0:20:42.750 --> 0:20:46.619 who are struggling and they're not ambitious, it's likely because 0:20:46.619 --> 0:20:49.050 they have too many jobs, you know, they got too 0:20:49.050 --> 0:20:51.540 much drama in their lives. There's too much going on. 0:20:51.540 --> 0:20:53.910 And if that were to not be the case, if 0:20:53.910 --> 0:20:56.700 they were, we were able to reduce their stress. They 0:20:56.700 --> 0:20:59.580 would become just like the go getters and just like 0:20:59.580 --> 0:21:04.800 the ambitious and smart people. And this study, being so large, 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.800 has the ability to undo that narrative a bit and 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.949 basically say that there's a chance here we need to 0:21:10.950 --> 0:21:14.160 do full analysis of this, but there's a chance here 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.879 that what it uncovers is that no ambitious people have 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.630 something else. They have this ambition and drive that lets 0:21:21.630 --> 0:21:26.429 them thrive almost despite whatever is going on. So if 0:21:26.430 --> 0:21:28.169 they have lots of burdens on them, they're going to 0:21:28.170 --> 0:21:31.070 find a way through. Unless they're overwhelming, of course, But 0:21:31.070 --> 0:21:34.100 given the same amount of burden, people with this attribute 0:21:34.100 --> 0:21:37.729 of like drive and self-discipline and ambition, they're just going 0:21:37.730 --> 0:21:39.290 to crush it. They're going to find a way to 0:21:39.290 --> 0:21:42.170 crush it. And the whole narrative for this UBI thing 0:21:42.170 --> 0:21:45.410 was that, no, everyone has that. And I think I'm 0:21:45.410 --> 0:21:48.200 old enough at this point to realize, no, not everyone 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.010 has special beans or special magic. It really is a 0:21:52.010 --> 0:21:55.540 small portion of, you know, society who is in the 0:21:55.540 --> 0:21:58.780 top 10% of a given thing. Um, I mean, just 0:21:58.780 --> 0:22:03.040 by the numbers, like only 10% can be in the 10%, right? 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.580 So I think first we need to confirm that that 0:22:06.580 --> 0:22:08.890 this is what it's saying. But even if it is 0:22:08.890 --> 0:22:11.889 saying the worst possible thing, which is no, this doesn't 0:22:11.890 --> 0:22:15.670 actually make people more ambitious. It doesn't really matter. We 0:22:15.670 --> 0:22:18.190 still have to keep looking for the thing that is 0:22:18.190 --> 0:22:20.640 the ambition. We still have to find the source of 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.820 this thing that is so valuable to us, which is 0:22:23.820 --> 0:22:28.260 people who are driven and ambitious. Now, if it's genetic, well, 0:22:28.260 --> 0:22:31.979 then I don't care, right? We're not we're not going 0:22:31.980 --> 0:22:35.430 to be changing genetics, right. Any time soon anyway. So 0:22:35.430 --> 0:22:38.189 it's like, I don't care if we find that there's 0:22:38.190 --> 0:22:41.670 more ambition in this group or less ambition in that group, 0:22:41.670 --> 0:22:45.270 because those numbers are likely to be so tiny compared 0:22:45.270 --> 0:22:47.489 to what we can control. You know, even if they 0:22:47.490 --> 0:22:49.680 exist and they might not even exist. It might be 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.679 all environment. But I mean, this is a three year study. 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:56.010 This doesn't control, like what went into their their upbringing 0:22:56.010 --> 0:22:58.950 and their childhood and everything. Um, because if you look 0:22:58.950 --> 0:23:03.060 at cultures where they have this really, really strong drive 0:23:03.060 --> 0:23:06.540 and ambition and everything, it's part of their actual culture. 0:23:06.750 --> 0:23:08.780 This is like they pop out of the womb and 0:23:08.780 --> 0:23:11.900 it's like, pick your college, right? You were told from 0:23:11.900 --> 0:23:15.230 a very early age that you must be producing. It's 0:23:15.230 --> 0:23:18.470 your responsibility to give back to community. All your, you know, 0:23:18.470 --> 0:23:21.740 family members are looking up to you. You know you 0:23:21.740 --> 0:23:26.240 owe us, you owe society quality outputs, and you must 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:30.350 work hard to create those that cultural influence and power, 0:23:30.350 --> 0:23:32.560 plus all the peers that come with it. Plus then 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.929 you go to nice colleges and they all believe the 0:23:34.930 --> 0:23:38.619 same thing. That entire mechanism is what we need to 0:23:38.619 --> 0:23:41.500 give to the entire world. Okay, that that is the 0:23:41.500 --> 0:23:45.460 thing that I believe is creating ambitious people. So you 0:23:45.460 --> 0:23:48.430 do a three year study on UBI, you find out 0:23:48.430 --> 0:23:52.750 that doesn't make people into those people. Fine, fine. Something 0:23:52.750 --> 0:23:56.850 is and I believe it's that entire culture as a package. 0:23:56.850 --> 0:23:59.879 And that's the thing that we need to give to everyone. 0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:02.909 That's our responsibility. And if the world were more like that, 0:24:02.910 --> 0:24:06.600 the world would be better. First of all, that automatically 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.210 fixes crime. If you're trying to build things and doing 0:24:09.210 --> 0:24:14.459 things and you're busy, that automatically fixes literacy crime, like 0:24:14.460 --> 0:24:18.179 so many different things that are a problem. So I 0:24:18.180 --> 0:24:20.970 just I don't see this as too negative. I see 0:24:20.970 --> 0:24:23.699 it as a little bit negative, but positive in the 0:24:23.700 --> 0:24:27.540 sense that it's going to uncover the real issues, which 0:24:27.540 --> 0:24:34.170 is how to propagate successful mental models and frames, um, 0:24:34.170 --> 0:24:37.710 in a wider scope across wider groups of people across 0:24:37.710 --> 0:24:41.129 the entire planet. And I think that's the problem we 0:24:41.130 --> 0:24:45.170 need to focus on and move towards solving. Okay, some 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:49.010 standalone ideas here. And I just put the tweets in 0:24:49.010 --> 0:24:52.369 here because basically when I have ideas I, I um, 0:24:52.490 --> 0:24:56.210 post them on X and then come back to them 0:24:56.450 --> 0:24:59.930 to distill into the idea section here. So first one, 0:24:59.930 --> 0:25:05.119 what if cannabis? Cannabis, not cannabis is soma from the 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:08.929 Brave New world. So it makes people comfortable with mediocrity, 0:25:08.930 --> 0:25:12.460 makes people more accepting of whatever they're handed, and makes 0:25:12.460 --> 0:25:16.150 people less likely to change their situation. And legalization is 0:25:16.150 --> 0:25:20.470 actually happening coincident with the rise of AI, which is 0:25:20.470 --> 0:25:23.080 pretty cool. And I don't actually think that's a conspiracy. 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.390 Just to keep in mind, I think they're just both 0:25:25.390 --> 0:25:28.180 happening at the same time. Conspiracy culture. Speaking of that 0:25:28.180 --> 0:25:31.450 is getting stupid at this point. Um, yeah, bad thing happens. 0:25:31.450 --> 0:25:34.359 It must be deep state. Um, Biden pulls out of 0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:38.379 the race. Must be deep state. I saw a reply 0:25:38.380 --> 0:25:41.530 to my my post here. Somebody said the number of 0:25:41.530 --> 0:25:44.770 people believing the world is like that, where they see 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:48.340 deep state and everything is inversely proportional to the number 0:25:48.340 --> 0:25:51.970 of people who have worked in a very large organization. 0:25:51.970 --> 0:25:54.640 And I think that is so smart, because when you 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.070 work in these very large organizations or in the government 0:25:57.070 --> 0:26:02.399 or whatever, you just see constant stupidity, just constant stupidity 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:06.150 performed by really smart people. And the fact that they're 0:26:06.150 --> 0:26:09.210 in these large groups with lots of bureaucracy just makes 0:26:09.210 --> 0:26:12.689 the whole thing stupid and inefficient. So you see enough 0:26:12.690 --> 0:26:15.869 of that. And then when you see a botched Secret 0:26:15.869 --> 0:26:20.219 Service thing or whatever, you're like, yeah, the world is stupid. 0:26:20.220 --> 0:26:23.659 People are stupid. Like, where's I'm surprised anything works, right? 0:26:23.660 --> 0:26:26.600 That's the eventual attitude you get after you work at 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.750 enough of these large organizations. And this one here, I'm 0:26:29.750 --> 0:26:32.240 going to save, because this one is like, I'm going 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:36.530 to do a whole essay and video on this one. Essentially, 0:26:36.530 --> 0:26:41.179 it is the use of AI for security on a 0:26:41.180 --> 0:26:44.240 whole bunch of intractable problems. And I believe this is 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.159 the future of AI and security, which is why I'm 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:47.929 going to turn it into its own thing. And the 0:26:47.930 --> 0:26:50.330 future of security and risk management is to have them 0:26:50.330 --> 0:26:53.540 disappear into SOPs. This one, I'm also going to break 0:26:53.540 --> 0:26:56.840 out into a separate thing and got someone posted here. 0:26:56.869 --> 0:26:59.930 A great tribe of Silicon Valley is making a bid 0:26:59.930 --> 0:27:03.379 to take over the US. Vance is Thiel's man. Musk 0:27:03.380 --> 0:27:06.350 and Andreessen Horowitz are backing him. He will be the 0:27:06.350 --> 0:27:09.890 nominee in four years as an admin, steered by Thiel 0:27:09.890 --> 0:27:13.180 and Musk. Right when AGI is due and Starship goes 0:27:13.180 --> 0:27:17.260 to Mars. Incredible timeline. And basically I just said, hmm, interesting. 0:27:17.290 --> 0:27:21.879 I'll be watching this closely. I love looking at movements 0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:27.100 like this. Like, what is Silicon Valley thinking? What are 0:27:27.100 --> 0:27:30.280 the top tier people? What are their political views? Are 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:34.209 they ambitious? Are they pessimistic? Are they optimistic? What are 0:27:34.210 --> 0:27:36.690 they doing? What are they thinking? Who are they backing? 0:27:36.690 --> 0:27:40.050 What are their arguments? I want to know all this stuff. 0:27:40.050 --> 0:27:42.600 And I've got a buddy who is so good at 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.270 tracking this stuff and just knows everything about this. And 0:27:45.270 --> 0:27:49.380 I go walking with him, um, very often and have 0:27:49.380 --> 0:27:52.379 dinner and just get into these great discussions about, like, 0:27:52.380 --> 0:27:56.430 all these different zeitgeists happening. 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Instead, ask them what their ideal world looks like, 0:29:13.620 --> 0:29:17.010 including questions like these. Are there multiple religions? Are there 0:29:17.010 --> 0:29:20.790 multiple ethnic groups? Are people free to love whoever they want? 0:29:20.820 --> 0:29:22.920 Do we all live together? What are the most famous 0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.530 people in the world? Who gets paid the most? Who 0:29:25.530 --> 0:29:28.200 gets paid the least? What happens to someone if they're 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.350 truly disabled and they cannot work? What happens to someone 0:29:31.350 --> 0:29:34.260 if they're too lazy to work? What happens to someone 0:29:34.260 --> 0:29:37.070 who is addicted to drugs? I think many of our 0:29:37.070 --> 0:29:40.850 disagreements are about how and not what. Because I know 0:29:40.850 --> 0:29:44.120 a lot of people who support Trump, for example, who 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.479 would say, yeah, you can absolutely be gay. Yeah, you 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:52.190 can absolutely be transgender. No problem. Love to everyone. Yes, 0:29:52.190 --> 0:29:55.730 there absolutely can be other religions. Yes, all the ethnic 0:29:55.730 --> 0:29:59.030 groups should live together. Yes, there should be a safety net. 0:29:59.030 --> 0:30:03.970 I literally know multiple Trump supporters who voted for Trump twice, 0:30:03.970 --> 0:30:06.760 who believe all four of these. You can be gay, 0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:10.270 you can be transgender, you can be other religions. We 0:30:10.270 --> 0:30:12.910 should all live together. We should all get along, and 0:30:12.910 --> 0:30:15.940 there should be a social safety net. Okay, so if 0:30:15.940 --> 0:30:17.590 you're on the left and you hear someone on the 0:30:17.590 --> 0:30:19.630 right say those things, or you're on the right and 0:30:19.630 --> 0:30:21.940 you hear the left say, you know some other stuff, 0:30:21.940 --> 0:30:25.750 this is an opportunity for a real conversation. Both sides 0:30:25.750 --> 0:30:29.739 should describe what they view as an ideal version of 0:30:29.740 --> 0:30:32.350 the world. And I would argue to you that if 0:30:32.350 --> 0:30:36.040 you both start with that, it's going to look very similar. 0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:40.780 I think roughly the center 80 or 70% of the 0:30:40.780 --> 0:30:43.870 country is going to build that model, and it's mostly 0:30:43.870 --> 0:30:46.420 going to look the same, and it's mostly going to 0:30:46.420 --> 0:30:49.480 include those 4 or 5 things that I just mentioned. 0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.870 So if you had a smart moderator in between, you 0:30:52.870 --> 0:30:55.000 could look at these two people and be like, okay, 0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.250 let me get this straight. You think there should be 0:30:57.250 --> 0:31:02.320 multiple ethnic groups and religions and gender identities, and we 0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:05.500 should all work together and all live together and be 0:31:05.500 --> 0:31:07.900 happy together and not infringe on each other. Is that 0:31:07.900 --> 0:31:10.690 is that correct? And both of them say yes. Do 0:31:10.690 --> 0:31:12.880 you realize how much progress that is? Do you realize 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:16.190 how much we need that conversation to take place right now, 0:31:16.190 --> 0:31:19.850 in the middle of 2024, going into this crazy election cycle? 0:31:19.850 --> 0:31:22.430 We absolutely need that. So that's where you should start 0:31:22.430 --> 0:31:25.490 the conversation. Don't start with like, hey, what are your politics? 0:31:25.490 --> 0:31:27.770 Because they're they're going to go to an emotional hot 0:31:27.770 --> 0:31:30.110 button that's going to trigger both of you. Instead, talk 0:31:30.110 --> 0:31:32.570 about the ideal. And when you realize you agree on 0:31:32.570 --> 0:31:35.600 the ideal, now we have a how problem okay, now 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:39.430 we have a transition problem. Cool. That's much more tractable 0:31:39.430 --> 0:31:43.270 and much more discussable than disagreeing on where we're supposed 0:31:43.270 --> 0:31:46.030 to go. 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