WEBVTT - UL NO. 433: China's Flawed Strategy

0:00:01.100 --> 0:00:04.490
<v S1>Welcome to Unsupervised Learning, a security, AI and meaning focused

0:00:04.490 --> 0:00:07.370
<v S1>podcast that looks at how best to thrive as humans

0:00:07.370 --> 0:00:11.570
<v S1>in a post AI world. It combines original ideas, analysis,

0:00:11.570 --> 0:00:14.810
<v S1>and mental models to bring not just the news, but

0:00:14.810 --> 0:00:21.709
<v S1>why it matters and how to respond. All right. Welcome

0:00:21.710 --> 0:00:25.040
<v S1>to unsupervised learning. This is Daniel. Hope you're doing well.

0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.550
<v S1>So we added a new fabric pattern called explained Term's

0:00:28.550 --> 0:00:31.730
<v S1>which takes an input, finds the difficult terms and gives

0:00:31.730 --> 0:00:35.059
<v S1>a definition. And I got this put together because I

0:00:35.060 --> 0:00:40.400
<v S1>was watching a really complex machine learning AI video with Daksh,

0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.610
<v S1>and I forget who the people were. Oh, it was

0:00:43.610 --> 0:00:46.610
<v S1>two different guests, one from anthropic and maybe another one

0:00:46.610 --> 0:00:49.010
<v S1>from DeepMind. Not sure, but they went into some pretty

0:00:49.010 --> 0:00:51.140
<v S1>heavy stuff, and there was a bunch of terms that

0:00:51.140 --> 0:00:53.150
<v S1>I just heard them talking about, and I wished I

0:00:53.150 --> 0:00:55.100
<v S1>could just go and look them up. So I went

0:00:55.100 --> 0:00:58.790
<v S1>and created this pattern for that. Had a fantastic weekend

0:00:58.790 --> 0:01:02.450
<v S1>at EDC, the annual pilgrimage for a bunch of friends

0:01:02.450 --> 0:01:05.450
<v S1>and I. And yeah, it was fabulous. Just great music,

0:01:05.450 --> 0:01:09.080
<v S1>great companionship, just amazing. And I would say if you

0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.020
<v S1>don't have friends that you go and do something with,

0:01:12.020 --> 0:01:15.560
<v S1>like every year, you want to definitely do that. It's, uh,

0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.069
<v S1>it's really valuable to have something to look forward to

0:01:19.069 --> 0:01:21.560
<v S1>and just have that time with friends. And it's like,

0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.900
<v S1>it helps you get through the rest of the year,

0:01:23.900 --> 0:01:27.260
<v S1>which I haven't been having that much trouble doing that lately,

0:01:27.260 --> 0:01:30.950
<v S1>but it's, uh, it's something that everyone should be doing. Like,

0:01:30.950 --> 0:01:33.530
<v S1>Tim Ferriss talked about this and it got me thinking

0:01:33.530 --> 0:01:36.500
<v S1>about it. And luckily I already have a couple of these. Basically,

0:01:36.500 --> 0:01:38.390
<v S1>one is like Defcon black hat, and the other one

0:01:38.390 --> 0:01:41.929
<v S1>is EDC, and we're thinking about sprinkling a few smaller

0:01:41.930 --> 0:01:44.570
<v S1>ones in there as well. But something to do if

0:01:44.569 --> 0:01:46.700
<v S1>you don't have these already and it could be local.

0:01:46.700 --> 0:01:50.120
<v S1>It could just be like LAN parties or whatever, just

0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.790
<v S1>small things. Thinking about writing a short book about what

0:01:52.790 --> 0:01:56.270
<v S1>people will need to become antifragile. In the world of AI,

0:01:56.300 --> 0:01:58.310
<v S1>a lot of people are asking me this like, what

0:01:58.310 --> 0:02:00.080
<v S1>do I need to learn? What are the skills I

0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.800
<v S1>have to master to be resilient to AI? And a

0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.700
<v S1>working title for this is something like human 3.0 Skills

0:02:07.700 --> 0:02:11.179
<v S1>and Mental Frames Required to thrive in a post AI world.

0:02:11.180 --> 0:02:15.320
<v S1>And I've actually forgot to look at this. I haven't

0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.440
<v S1>looked at that, but we'll take a look at it afterwards. So, uh,

0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.130
<v S1>got a post here that, uh, was from a while back,

0:02:22.130 --> 0:02:24.890
<v S1>like May of 2023, where I talked about the attack

0:02:24.889 --> 0:02:28.310
<v S1>surface map. Not sure why this is not linking. There

0:02:28.310 --> 0:02:31.040
<v S1>it goes. Yeah. So this is the attack surface map

0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.150
<v S1>I put together in May of 23, I think so

0:02:35.150 --> 0:02:38.150
<v S1>about a year ago, and it turns out to be

0:02:38.150 --> 0:02:42.830
<v S1>pretty useful. Still, I think it's still spot on. I'm

0:02:42.830 --> 0:02:45.320
<v S1>not sure what I would modify from this, but worth

0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.200
<v S1>taking a look at if you haven't seen it. Okay, security,

0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.650
<v S1>see what we got here? So the FBI seized a

0:02:51.650 --> 0:02:55.339
<v S1>bunch of hacking, uh, breach forms again, Chinese brain drain.

0:02:55.340 --> 0:02:58.550
<v S1>So Microsoft is moving nearly 10% of its China based

0:02:58.550 --> 0:03:01.730
<v S1>tech talent out of the country. Yeah, they're talking about

0:03:01.730 --> 0:03:05.419
<v S1>brain drain here. And I personally am pretty happy about this.

0:03:05.419 --> 0:03:07.820
<v S1>I think I feel like the US is in a

0:03:07.820 --> 0:03:10.700
<v S1>good state right now. It's in a good place to

0:03:10.700 --> 0:03:14.600
<v S1>win because Europe is suffering from all sorts of missing

0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:19.310
<v S1>innovation because of regulations. They just love regulating things, regulating

0:03:19.310 --> 0:03:22.460
<v S1>things too much. And that's a problem. So I think

0:03:22.460 --> 0:03:25.400
<v S1>that's like taking them out of the game. China is

0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:29.210
<v S1>being just super aggressive to everyone all the time, hacking everyone,

0:03:29.210 --> 0:03:32.150
<v S1>trying to control everyone. Everyone's trying to control everyone and some,

0:03:32.150 --> 0:03:35.690
<v S1>some sense. And definitely in the US is not innocent

0:03:35.690 --> 0:03:39.260
<v S1>of that. But I would say that our means of

0:03:39.260 --> 0:03:44.000
<v S1>doing that in our goal of doing that is more benign.

0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.650
<v S1>And this really leaves the US and Canada to benefit

0:03:48.650 --> 0:03:52.010
<v S1>from this boom in talent and people that are going

0:03:52.010 --> 0:03:56.000
<v S1>to be leaving China. China has so many people, and

0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.240
<v S1>a small percentage of those people have a high IQ,

0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.610
<v S1>and a small percentage of people in the US have

0:04:01.610 --> 0:04:04.520
<v S1>a high IQ. And guess what? When you have three

0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.830
<v S1>times the people, or is it four times the people,

0:04:06.830 --> 0:04:09.200
<v S1>I can't remember. But when you have that many more

0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.830
<v S1>people and plus they have a better education system, like

0:04:12.830 --> 0:04:17.180
<v S1>they have so much talent and to have a lot

0:04:17.180 --> 0:04:19.909
<v S1>of that talent go to the US and Canada and

0:04:19.910 --> 0:04:22.790
<v S1>to some degree to Europe. That is a major advantage

0:04:22.790 --> 0:04:26.270
<v S1>for the West. And the other disadvantage that China has

0:04:26.270 --> 0:04:29.060
<v S1>around AI is that I think they don't want to

0:04:29.060 --> 0:04:32.330
<v S1>just turn it on and enable it, because it encourages

0:04:32.330 --> 0:04:36.560
<v S1>people to ask questions. And China doesn't like people asking questions.

0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.929
<v S1>They want to feed them a narrative and have that

0:04:38.930 --> 0:04:42.890
<v S1>narrative be the only one and basically control that. And

0:04:42.890 --> 0:04:45.230
<v S1>it's just not a game that they're going to win.

0:04:45.230 --> 0:04:48.620
<v S1>I don't think, well, they could win, they could still win.

0:04:48.620 --> 0:04:52.219
<v S1>But I feel like they're setting themselves up to fail

0:04:52.220 --> 0:04:56.420
<v S1>and for the West to benefit. So what's essentially going

0:04:56.420 --> 0:04:58.940
<v S1>to happen as a result is the world will pull

0:04:58.940 --> 0:05:02.120
<v S1>away from them, and their best minds will brain drain

0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.190
<v S1>out of the country. They will go to Europe, they

0:05:04.190 --> 0:05:06.230
<v S1>will go to Canada, and they will go to the US.

0:05:06.230 --> 0:05:10.250
<v S1>Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall flew in an AI controlled

0:05:10.250 --> 0:05:14.089
<v S1>F-16 and basically said, it's just about as good as

0:05:14.089 --> 0:05:18.950
<v S1>experienced human pilots, technology. Everything covered at Google I o got.

0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.109
<v S1>A link here, and unfortunately, it's impossible for me to

0:05:22.110 --> 0:05:25.080
<v S1>get excited about this because Google has turned into like

0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.539
<v S1>a cool idea lab because they're not really good at

0:05:27.540 --> 0:05:32.099
<v S1>making products. Why? Because they're simply not good at managing products.

0:05:32.100 --> 0:05:34.710
<v S1>They have so many smart engineers, and they have lots

0:05:34.710 --> 0:05:37.799
<v S1>of talent and lots of cool potential ideas, but they

0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.350
<v S1>don't have vision and they don't have product management, and

0:05:40.350 --> 0:05:42.930
<v S1>they don't have vision. That's led by product management and

0:05:42.930 --> 0:05:45.510
<v S1>by the leaders. They have basically a throw it at

0:05:45.510 --> 0:05:48.720
<v S1>the wall technique and it's really hurting them. And I

0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.240
<v S1>think the only thing that's going to fix it is

0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.260
<v S1>like a dramatic overhaul with replacement of the CEO. I

0:05:55.260 --> 0:05:57.780
<v S1>think that's looking more and more likely. Pretty cool idea

0:05:57.810 --> 0:06:02.160
<v S1>about how to avoid the mediocre success trap, because you

0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.279
<v S1>basically want a home run or strike out. And this

0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.550
<v S1>is talking about not getting a strong signal from an experiment.

0:06:08.550 --> 0:06:11.700
<v S1>This is the context that they're talking about here. Ilya

0:06:11.700 --> 0:06:17.610
<v S1>Sutskever suggests mastering these 30 ML papers to grasp 90%

0:06:17.610 --> 0:06:21.479
<v S1>of crucial machine learning knowledge. I've started going through the list.

0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.140
<v S1>I'm not all the way through by any means. MIT

0:06:25.140 --> 0:06:29.520
<v S1>researchers came across three ancient stars, and they're going around

0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.489
<v S1>the Milky Way for some reason, and they appear to

0:06:32.490 --> 0:06:35.729
<v S1>be some of the oldest in the entire universe. And

0:06:35.730 --> 0:06:38.820
<v S1>I'm like, how do they randomly end up near us?

0:06:38.820 --> 0:06:42.630
<v S1>A strange and the article didn't really explain it that well,

0:06:42.630 --> 0:06:45.630
<v S1>scientists just found out that whales have their own alphabet

0:06:45.630 --> 0:06:48.570
<v S1>in their songs, and my buddy Mark has been working

0:06:48.570 --> 0:06:51.479
<v S1>on deciphering this stuff for years. He's got some real

0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.720
<v S1>cool research that he's working on, hopes to be able

0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.479
<v S1>to present on it at some sort of marine conference soon.

0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.960
<v S1>And this one's about how Swiss parenting styles are so

0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.539
<v S1>different from American ones, and they talk about it in

0:07:03.540 --> 0:07:06.089
<v S1>this article. Basically, four year olds being able to walk

0:07:06.089 --> 0:07:09.300
<v S1>to school by themselves in Switzerland. And some will say, well,

0:07:09.300 --> 0:07:11.760
<v S1>that's because it's more safe there. It's not really that

0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.970
<v S1>unsafe here either in the US for kids to walk

0:07:14.970 --> 0:07:17.730
<v S1>to school, but people think it is and that's that's

0:07:17.730 --> 0:07:20.460
<v S1>their frame. That's their reality. All right. This one here,

0:07:20.460 --> 0:07:23.580
<v S1>I think the magic amount of therapy for most people,

0:07:23.610 --> 0:07:26.970
<v S1>of course, not all might be some relatively small amount

0:07:26.970 --> 0:07:29.760
<v S1>of therapy that untangles your knots, but doesn't point your

0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.910
<v S1>lens permanently on yourself in your troubles. Because I feel

0:07:32.910 --> 0:07:36.990
<v S1>like too much therapy has the approach of like bad chiropractic,

0:07:36.990 --> 0:07:39.420
<v S1>where the goal is they want you to come back

0:07:39.420 --> 0:07:43.050
<v S1>and have more chiropractic visits, right? The goal is not

0:07:43.050 --> 0:07:45.300
<v S1>to fix you where you don't come back. And I

0:07:45.300 --> 0:07:48.330
<v S1>think just so much focus on yourself and your problems.

0:07:48.330 --> 0:07:52.770
<v S1>It's essentially rumination. And rumination is a bad thing that actually, ironically,

0:07:52.770 --> 0:07:55.260
<v S1>you go to therapy to figure out how not to do.

0:07:55.260 --> 0:08:00.270
<v S1>And I'm worried that the therapy industry is basically encouraging rumination.

0:08:00.270 --> 0:08:02.380
<v S1>Recommendation of the week. Make sure you have 1 to

0:08:02.380 --> 0:08:04.920
<v S1>2 friend trips planned per year, even if it's not

0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:09.060
<v S1>everyone and it's just local. Just anything camping, hiking, whatever,

0:08:09.060 --> 0:08:12.420
<v S1>role playing games, video games, whatever. And maybe you have

0:08:12.420 --> 0:08:14.820
<v S1>a rule of like no tech during that time just

0:08:14.820 --> 0:08:19.140
<v S1>so you can have interactions, live interactions, eat food together,

0:08:19.140 --> 0:08:23.940
<v S1>hang out, even watching TV, just talking, whatever. Super replenishing,

0:08:23.940 --> 0:08:26.280
<v S1>as I just found out from this last trip. And

0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.890
<v S1>the aphorism of the week every minute you are angry,

0:08:28.890 --> 0:08:33.240
<v S1>you lose 60s of happiness. Every minute you are angry,

0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:38.670
<v S1>you lose 60s of happiness. Ralph Waldo Emerson. Unsupervised Learning

0:08:38.670 --> 0:08:41.309
<v S1>is produced and edited by Daniel Meisler on a Neumann

0:08:41.309 --> 0:08:45.900
<v S1>U87 AI microphone using Hindenburg. Intro and outro music is

0:08:45.900 --> 0:08:49.140
<v S1>by zombie with the why and to get the text

0:08:49.140 --> 0:08:51.300
<v S1>and links from this episode, sign up for the newsletter

0:08:51.300 --> 0:08:56.660
<v S1>version of the show at Daniel meisler.com/newsletter. We'll see you

0:08:56.660 --> 0:08:57.320
<v S1>next time.