WEBVTT - UL NO. 486 STANDARD EDITION: Fully Automated AI Malware (Binary and Web), My Debate with Marcus Hutchins on AI and more

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<v S1>All right. Welcome to episode 486. This is Daniel Missler.

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<v S1>All right. A lot of stuff to share this week.

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<v S1>Let's see here. Um, okay, so I had a debate

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<v S1>with Marcus Hutchins about I, I don't know if you've

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<v S1>seen him talking about AI online, but he basically, uh,

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<v S1>him and a number of my friends, uh, Christopher Hoff

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<v S1>being one of them, they basically take opportunity whenever they

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<v S1>can to to basically point out how stupid it is

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<v S1>and how it makes tons of mistakes and how it's

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<v S1>basically all folly and, uh, how everyone's overestimating it. And

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<v S1>the whole the whole thing is going to come crashing

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<v S1>down and a bunch of scams, all for the purpose

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<v S1>of making money. And it's all just hype and marketing.

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<v S1>So that's kind of their position. Uh, Marcus is a

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<v S1>particularly good at making these points in a very humorous way.

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<v S1>And of course, he has a huge following because he

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<v S1>is Marcus Hutchins, probably the most famous malware researcher that

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<v S1>we've ever known. And, uh, because I have the opposite view,

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<v S1>I wanted to have this debate. So we had the debate.

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<v S1>It's on YouTube now. I highly suggest you go check

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<v S1>it out. And of course, the link is in the newsletter.

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<v S1>The conversation went extremely well. It was very cordial. It

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<v S1>was very, um, substantive. I think we both made points

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<v S1>that the other one received and appreciated. So I think

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<v S1>it was overall just great. Now, a lot of the

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<v S1>feedback has been that we weren't actually disagreeing and that, uh,

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<v S1>both things could be true. And this makes me think

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<v S1>we went a little bit too hard on being nice. And, uh,

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<v S1>maybe for part two, which we're already talking about, talking

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<v S1>about doing maybe for part two, we need to sort

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<v S1>of tighten it up, um, sharpen the pencils a little

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<v S1>bit and just be like, hey, look, you know, I

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<v S1>think you're wrong about this particular point. Let's let's debate that. And, um,

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<v S1>I think we got there. I think we did that.

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<v S1>I mean, it was over a two hour conversation, so

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<v S1>hopefully you could take that away in the conversation, but

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<v S1>I think in part two I at least myself, are

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<v S1>going to try to be a little bit tighter with

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<v S1>my arguments and a little bit more direct. And, um,

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<v S1>I don't want to say confrontational, but confrontational in the

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<v S1>most cordial way possible to basically try to pin down

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<v S1>these arguments and say, no, you know, this is where

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<v S1>I actually do disagree with you. I think you're mistaken

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<v S1>about that. And I think that will just be more

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<v S1>useful to people who are actually trying to make up

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<v S1>their minds. And most importantly, I think it'd be more

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<v S1>useful to Marcus and his points and to myself and

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<v S1>my points of like, if he thinks I'm wrong about

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<v S1>this and I think he's wrong about this, we're ultimately

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<v S1>trying to provide a service to our audiences and to

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<v S1>audiences we haven't talked to yet. And, you know, future audiences.

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<v S1>We're trying to make that point. We're trying to, you know, um,

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<v S1>not just have a discussion, but but also try to

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<v S1>show that we're right about this discussion. And it doesn't

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<v S1>mean we're right about everything. It doesn't mean we've got

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<v S1>it all figured out. We don't. It's the future. You

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<v S1>can't predict it. But I think you see my point.

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<v S1>So that's what I'm going to try to do in

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<v S1>part two. And after that, I might do a specific

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<v S1>sort of argument breakdowns or something even more tactical than that.

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<v S1>But in the meantime, I recommend you go check out

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<v S1>the episode. It's quite good. All right. Cloud code definitely

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<v S1>my most holy crap. Are you serious? I tool that

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<v S1>I've ever used. And again, I talked about this. I've

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<v S1>been talking about this for a couple of weeks now.

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<v S1>I'm telling you, like Klein and Cursor, those all still

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<v S1>feel powerful. And I still use cursor sometimes. But here's

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<v S1>the distinction I. I feel like cursor is a tool,

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<v S1>whereas Klein. Well, and Klein is very similar, although I'm

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<v S1>not using Klein as much. I'm using cursor now, and

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<v S1>I would say that those are tools as opposed to

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<v S1>cloud code is more like a coworker. It's more like

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<v S1>another engineer that I'm working with, and I'm just kind

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<v S1>of like sending work over there, like like I'm a

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<v S1>senior engineer and they're a junior engineer, and I'm sending

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<v S1>them work, and they're going and doing tests for me,

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<v S1>and they're coming back and giving me a status report saying,

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<v S1>here's what I got done, right. It's really, really that good.

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<v S1>And I'm just blown away by it. And I can't

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<v S1>even imagine, like, what gets better from here. So I

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<v S1>talked about this metric metric. I think I mentioned it

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<v S1>in this week's show or the one previous, but it's

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<v S1>a metric for how long term of tasks I can

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<v S1>actually accomplish. I think it's a really, really cool metric metric.

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<v S1>I thought they might have been mispronouncing or misstating miter miter,

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<v S1>but no, it's metric. And it basically talks about, you know,

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<v S1>the fact that I struggles with long context problems with

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<v S1>large scope problems where it just gets confused and just

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<v S1>can't remember its place, can't remember all the different subtasks,

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<v S1>and it just kind of spirals into like chaos. And

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<v S1>that's a huge problem for AI, and it's kind of

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<v S1>the big bottleneck right now, along with context, which is

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<v S1>very much related to this, and along with working memory,

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<v S1>which is very much related to this. So metric, this metric,

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<v S1>I believe it's a pretty good capture of this overall

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<v S1>collection of problems that I currently has, and how good

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<v S1>of a job we're doing at addressing those. So all

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<v S1>that to say, I think Claude, is Claude code is

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<v S1>the best right now at actually dealing with this. So

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<v S1>something to keep an eye on. Highly recommend this conversation

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<v S1>with Arthur. Arthur Kroeber and Dwarkesh Patel on China. So,

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<v S1>Arthur Kroeber or Kroeber? Sorry, Arthur Kroeber. That's a little

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<v S1>bit difficult to say. So he's a China expert. The

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<v S1>the China expert that everyone's talking about right now, or

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<v S1>at least in my circles, like there's a lot of

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<v S1>video of, um, Peter Zeihan and he's just talking about

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<v S1>how China is so screwed and they, you know, their

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<v S1>population collapse and, you know, they just they're in really

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<v S1>bad shape and they're going to be done any year now.

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<v S1>And I believe he's so popular because everyone wants to

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<v S1>hear that. I definitely wanted to hear that. I was

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<v S1>definitely happy to hear it. And what it did was

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<v S1>kind of expose my bias because it's confirmation bias. It's

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<v S1>also good news. And those are both very infectious. They

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<v S1>kind of burrow into the brain. And I'm a little

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<v S1>bothered that it worked so well on me for so

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<v S1>long for like a couple of years where I'm just like, oh,

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<v S1>this guy's super bright and China is actually super screwed. Well,

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<v S1>it turns out if you ask a lot of people

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<v S1>and if you sort of dig around, a lot of

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<v S1>China experts and a lot of economists don't think Zion

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<v S1>is all that smart. They don't think he's all that

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<v S1>educated and knowledgeable about China or China's economy. And some

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<v S1>of that could be hate. And this is why I

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<v S1>was a little bit confused. And maybe I am still

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<v S1>a little bit confused. I'm open to the fact that

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<v S1>Zion actually still does know a lot of stuff. And

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<v S1>I think that is the case. The problem is, I've

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<v S1>seen him talk about cyber, and he basically said that, um,

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<v S1>the Facebook app is key, logging every single keystroke that

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<v S1>you do at all times, even if you don't have

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<v S1>it open and it's uploading all of those keystrokes. Everything

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<v S1>you're doing on your computer, up to Facebook at all times.

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<v S1>And the problem is, he said that with the same

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<v S1>exact conviction that he's talking about with China. And I'm like, what?

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<v S1>Wait a minute. So I have to go and review

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<v S1>all the all the dumb shit that he said about China,

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<v S1>which I have been absorbing. And I'm like, this guy,

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<v S1>is this lost about this? And it's not just some esoteric,

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<v S1>like one philosophical view versus another. He's talking about a

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<v S1>very tangible thing. Like, to me, this is like lying

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<v S1>about a stat or something. This is like he's claiming

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<v S1>that this is technically true when I know it not

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<v S1>to be true. And just just as a simple way

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<v S1>of like giving an argument why I know this not

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<v S1>to be true or believe very strongly, at least if

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<v S1>the Facebook app was up stealing and uploading the keystrokes

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<v S1>of all its users all the time. Do you not

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<v S1>think that this would be a huge story? Do you

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<v S1>not think that all the security researchers out there in

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<v S1>the world would not have noticed this? Right? Do you

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<v S1>think Facebook would have meta would have okayed this and

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<v S1>actually thought it was okay and it would never be caught?

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<v S1>Like that is just ridiculous. So he's claiming to have

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<v S1>this knowledge that no one else has and he's spreading it,

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<v S1>you know, and I'm just like, wow. Right. This is

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<v S1>where you have to really question things. So anyway, this

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<v S1>other person who came on the Dwarkesh podcast, this guy

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<v S1>Arthur Kroeber, is a lot more serious. You can just

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<v S1>instantly tell, like, he'll be like, well, I don't know

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<v S1>about that. I wouldn't go that far. Or, you know,

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<v S1>like he's not talking like an influencer where it's just like, yeah,

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<v S1>which is what zeihan it talks like, you know, if

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<v S1>you listen to it, all his statements are absolutes. Um,

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<v S1>that's not completely true, right? He, um, he sometimes says, oh,

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<v S1>we don't know for sure or whatever, but a lot

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<v S1>of his statements are absolutes. Um, and it's just like,

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<v S1>first of all, we don't know that much about China. Like,

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<v S1>the data is sometimes hard to know, right? Uh, especially

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<v S1>because we're going off of their claims or we're going

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<v S1>off of inference. We're trying to figure these things out. Um,

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<v S1>bottom line is, he's just way too sure and way

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<v S1>too confident about opinions that I'm not sure that that

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<v S1>he should have at that level of confidence. And, um,

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<v S1>it's great to hear someone on the Dwarkesh podcast. Notice

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<v S1>he didn't have Peter Zeihan on. He went and found

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<v S1>this guy who's a well respected economist, uh, and who

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<v S1>he covered so much ground. I mean, it was just

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<v S1>a fantastic conversation. And, uh, I would say the short

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<v S1>version is I came away thinking China is in much

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<v S1>better shape than Zeihan believes. And then a lot of

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<v S1>people believe, and it's more in line with what my

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<v S1>concerns were of where China might be. And essentially, Zeihan

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<v S1>was giving me some confidence that I was wrong, that

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<v S1>China wasn't actually in that good a position, but it

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<v S1>seemed obvious to me from like other economic markers that

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<v S1>they actually are thriving and they actually are, you know,

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<v S1>in a position to kind of dominate the US, uh, in,

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<v S1>in short order. So I would say, go listen to this.

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<v S1>If you care about China, go, go listen to this.

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<v S1>If you care about national security, economic security, the future

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<v S1>of the US, the future of China, this conversation is spectacular.

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<v S1>And it's partially because of how good the guest was,

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<v S1>but it's largely because Dwarkesh is so good at interviewing.

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<v S1>He is just very young, very smart, very curious. That's

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<v S1>the biggest thing is like incandescent curiosity. That's the thing

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<v S1>with Dwarkesh. He's just like, he can't wait to jump

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<v S1>in with his next question. He's moving the conversation along,

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<v S1>like his conversations with Tyler Cowen are some of my

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<v S1>favorite podcasts to listen to. Anyway, it's a fantastic episode. Okay.

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<v S1>Very fascinated by this. Uh, what do you notice, Psyop

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<v S1>that I keep seeing, especially on X, but it's on

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<v S1>lots of different social media, I would say. And what

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<v S1>it basically does is it shows you like the picture of,

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<v S1>like a nine over 11, uh, building falling. Right. One

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<v S1>of the twin towers falling. And it's like, watch it

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<v S1>again in slow motion. What did you notice? Does this

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<v S1>look normal to you? And what it's doing is like

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<v S1>seeding this this concept of like, question everything. You've you've

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<v S1>been lied to and it's like really, really pernicious. It's nasty. Um, the,

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<v S1>the other cool thing that it does from a marketing standpoint,

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<v S1>it requires you to watch the video all the way

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<v S1>through in multiple times. And I think a lot of

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<v S1>people do. That's why a lot of these things have

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<v S1>like millions upon millions of views. And maybe that's just

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<v S1>the propaganda people pushing it, but it implicitly asks you

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<v S1>to use your own special analysis skills to figure out

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<v S1>what's wrong with it. And gullible people love to believe

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<v S1>that they're experts in lots of different stuff. So they're like, oh,

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<v S1>you know, I'll use my special skills to figure out

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<v S1>what's wrong with the building. He's like, oh, it shouldn't

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<v S1>have fallen that fast. And like when there's a comment,

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<v S1>it's like, did it fall faster than it should have?

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<v S1>They will suddenly pop into their mind. Yeah. It did

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<v S1>fall faster. That's how that's not how fast buildings are

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<v S1>supposed to fall. Somehow they're now an expert in building

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<v S1>falling like velocities. Right? And this is just like conspiracy thinking.

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<v S1>This is what a lot of people have. Um, and

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<v S1>I would say everyone has it. It's a question is like,

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<v S1>how much do you have it in check? Right? And

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<v S1>then they paint the perfect picture in your brain without

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<v S1>actually saying anything. Sometimes they say it in the comment,

0:12:41.072 --> 0:12:45.032
<v S1>sometimes they hint at it, but ultimately. Right. The brain

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<v S1>watching tries to like, square the circle, coming up with

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<v S1>an explanation when there isn't one. Or there might not

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<v S1>actually be anything wrong with the video, but because they

0:12:53.592 --> 0:12:56.232
<v S1>told you there was something wrong with it, you still

0:12:56.272 --> 0:12:59.832
<v S1>are these gullible types who watch it leave feeling like, ah,

0:13:00.072 --> 0:13:02.152
<v S1>you know, they have been lying to us. That video

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<v S1>was crazy. I can't believe I saw that video. It's like, no,

0:13:05.202 --> 0:13:07.682
<v S1>it was just a regular video, just regular iPhone took

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<v S1>a picture and sent it up there. It's like it

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<v S1>just opens the opportunity for gullibility and conspiracy thinking like

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<v S1>I've never seen before. It's a brilliant tactic. So basically,

0:13:19.922 --> 0:13:22.642
<v S1>the conspiracy brain goes on special forces mission to solve

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<v S1>the puzzle, and then it's followed up with like over

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<v S1>the course of a day or a week or a

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<v S1>month or whatever, like hundreds more videos hitting their feet.

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<v S1>1 or 2 of them will give you like an

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<v S1>explanation for this thing. It's like, oh, that's because they're

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<v S1>doing this. That's because of, you know, it's all a conspiracy.

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<v S1>That's because of this or whatever. And in maybe like

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<v S1>one out of the ten or something, they'll give you

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<v S1>a reason. But in the other nine it doesn't give

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<v S1>you a reason. It just asks you to think about

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<v S1>it and what the brain does, what, in my opinion,

0:13:50.482 --> 0:13:55.842
<v S1>these people's brains. And I'm putting that in quotes. What

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<v S1>they're doing is they're filling in the blank for the

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<v S1>other nine videos, right? They're like, I solved it. I

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<v S1>know the answer. Um, Um, I figured this out. This

0:14:05.702 --> 0:14:08.862
<v S1>is a conclusion that I've come to myself not realizing

0:14:08.862 --> 0:14:10.822
<v S1>it was either fed to them or they jumped to it,

0:14:10.822 --> 0:14:14.381
<v S1>and they're now sticking with it, right? And it's just like,

0:14:14.381 --> 0:14:19.702
<v S1>this is so nasty. And notice that the videos get

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<v S1>millions of views. Like, how are they getting so many views?

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<v S1>And so basically, like here are the narratives that I'm seeing.

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<v S1>And I'm starting to bookmark these things. I don't like

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<v S1>them because I don't want to like, um, encourage them. Uh,

0:14:31.662 --> 0:14:33.862
<v S1>but I bookmark them. So I could actually, uh, put

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<v S1>together some research on these accounts. But, uh, it's things

0:14:37.062 --> 0:14:39.102
<v S1>like whether it's changing, food is changing. The world is

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<v S1>basically different now in some inexplicable way, which you should

0:14:42.742 --> 0:14:45.342
<v S1>try to figure out. Uh, women aren't women anymore. Men

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<v S1>aren't men anymore. They used to be us. Used to

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<v S1>be on top. Now we're just a bunch of pussies

0:14:50.342 --> 0:14:53.462
<v S1>or whatever. Um, black people are nasty and violent. Nobody

0:14:53.462 --> 0:14:56.142
<v S1>likes them for good reason. Anything that's wrong with you,

0:14:56.142 --> 0:14:59.222
<v S1>it's from vaccines. US is the most racist country ever

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<v S1>with constant crimes against non-whites. So the stuff is designed

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<v S1>to anger you. It's not pointed towards or against any

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<v S1>particular group. What it's doing is finding all the trigger

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<v S1>issues and just blasting them right, with millions of views,

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<v S1>which that might be paid promotions, that might be the

0:15:17.072 --> 0:15:20.472
<v S1>fact that it's just viral and people are resharing or whatever. Um,

0:15:20.512 --> 0:15:23.792
<v S1>liberals and black people and gay people and LGBTQ people

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<v S1>have basically ruined the country. Russia is way nicer than

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<v S1>the US. It's full of pretty white girls and no

0:15:28.712 --> 0:15:31.352
<v S1>black people. You've been sold a lie that Russia is bad,

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<v S1>but people love it there. They actually love it there.

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<v S1>And most importantly, you are being lied to and you

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<v S1>should be angry about it. And this is the message, right?

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<v S1>It's like everywhere, but especially on X. And there are

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<v S1>like hundreds of these accounts. And if you click on

0:15:44.432 --> 0:15:48.192
<v S1>any of the accounts and you just scroll down, it's nonstop.

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<v S1>Just these types of posts and they are formulated with

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<v S1>like the same sort of quality and the same sort

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<v S1>of narrative hooks. It is completely obvious to me that

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<v S1>these are all part of campaigns. So the question is,

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<v S1>who's paying the money for these campaigns? Who is creating

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<v S1>this content? And my answer is it's absolutely propaganda. It

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<v S1>is enemies of the United States who are doing this.

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<v S1>Probably mostly Russia, but there could be others. It might

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<v S1>even be like internal groups who are just trying to

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<v S1>stoke anger for particular internal candidates. I have no idea.

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<v S1>I haven't done the research on exactly who these groups are,

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<v S1>but I think we know from the past that it's

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<v S1>likely to involve Russia to a decent amount, but they're

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<v S1>not the only people doing propaganda. And the bigger point

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<v S1>is that AI is also going to make this so

0:16:34.572 --> 0:16:36.692
<v S1>much easier. Like what happens when you. I can write

0:16:36.692 --> 0:16:38.932
<v S1>this stuff. I have no idea if I actually did

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<v S1>write a bunch of this stuff. Maybe that's why I'm

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<v S1>seeing so much of it now, because it's more scalable.

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<v S1>But I would love for someone to go and take

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<v S1>a look at all these different accounts and actually figure

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<v S1>out who they are. See if there's any, you know,

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<v S1>Osint like, uh, clues in there that we can, we

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<v S1>can use to track them down. I want to know

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<v S1>which countries are doing this. I want to know how

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<v S1>much they're spending. I want to know how they're getting

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<v S1>so many views. I think it's fascinating. just fascinating to

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<v S1>see how propaganda works. And um, one other caveat I

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<v S1>want to mention here is that I'm saying this as

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<v S1>an ex-military person who was an Intel like a little bit.

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<v S1>I basically spent a long time studying influence operations in

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<v S1>the Army. When I was assigned to S-2 for my

0:17:17.542 --> 0:17:22.182
<v S1>battalion in the 101st airborne. And does that make me

0:17:22.222 --> 0:17:26.982
<v S1>like an absolute expert in influence operations or propaganda? Not really.

0:17:26.982 --> 0:17:28.542
<v S1>I've read a whole bunch of books on it. I

0:17:28.582 --> 0:17:31.902
<v S1>studied it when I was in the military. Um, I

0:17:31.902 --> 0:17:36.782
<v S1>was sort of assigned to doing counterterrorism type influence stuff

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<v S1>a little bit when I was actually in the military,

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<v S1>but I'm not like a trained Intel person from the military.

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<v S1>I was, uh, airborne infantry, so I was assigned to

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<v S1>it because I seemed to have a talent for it.

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<v S1>But it wasn't like I'm not formally trained in it

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<v S1>or whatever. So it just just keep in mind, I

0:17:54.022 --> 0:17:57.102
<v S1>read a whole bunch of books. Doesn't mean I'm an expert. Um,

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<v S1>what I'm trying to do is to just get you

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<v S1>to see my perspective and how I'm seeing this very

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<v S1>clearly as being part of campaigns. And everyone who I

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<v S1>know who actually is trained in this stuff. Um, as

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<v S1>much or more than I am. They also agree other

0:18:11.722 --> 0:18:15.002
<v S1>people trained in this way also agree that this is

0:18:15.162 --> 0:18:20.242
<v S1>propaganda being sent against the United States. From who? Who knows? Right.

0:18:20.242 --> 0:18:22.522
<v S1>You have to do that research. Uh, but but I

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<v S1>would say just watch for it. Um. Oh, and I've

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<v S1>got some questions here. Have you noticed any of your

0:18:27.802 --> 0:18:31.401
<v S1>friends feeling these feelings of, like, America is screwed? Oh,

0:18:31.402 --> 0:18:35.282
<v S1>I hate that group. That group ruined everything. Um, on

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<v S1>X particularly, but also just in, uh, social media in general.

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<v S1>Have you noticed yourself feeling more angry towards other groups

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<v S1>or towards, um, just like the past used to be

0:18:45.962 --> 0:18:48.881
<v S1>better and feeling like, yeah, Russia had it figured out

0:18:48.882 --> 0:18:51.482
<v S1>because Russia seemed super nice or whatever. And are you

0:18:51.522 --> 0:18:53.722
<v S1>consuming a whole bunch of social media? All this to

0:18:53.762 --> 0:18:59.052
<v S1>basically ask, are you feeling yourself being influenced in this way? right?

0:18:59.092 --> 0:19:01.091
<v S1>Because that's what I have to ask myself all the time,

0:19:01.132 --> 0:19:04.092
<v S1>because I'm constantly trying to clean myself of bias. Not

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<v S1>always effective. And I end up catching it like I've

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<v S1>talked about multiple times in the newsletter and on the podcast.

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<v S1>I'm constantly checking myself having bias. It's the other reason

0:19:14.012 --> 0:19:18.452
<v S1>I do the Telos thing is to constantly be able

0:19:18.452 --> 0:19:20.732
<v S1>to ask I and say, what mistakes am I making?

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<v S1>What biases do I have that I seem to be, uh,

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<v S1>you know, ignoring. So anyway, watch for it. Think about it. Uh,

0:19:28.852 --> 0:19:32.892
<v S1>something to keep in mind. Uh, traditional advertising is in

0:19:32.892 --> 0:19:36.612
<v S1>serious trouble. This is something, uh, just incredible. There's some

0:19:36.652 --> 0:19:41.652
<v S1>ads of, like, um, the ones I particularly like, these

0:19:41.692 --> 0:19:47.012
<v S1>I ads, uh, from Vo3 from Google. They're basically Bigfoot ads. Uh, Yeti,

0:19:47.052 --> 0:19:52.332
<v S1>Bigfoot and Yeti ads. And they're as funny as, like,

0:19:52.372 --> 0:19:55.252
<v S1>Super Bowl ads, which they pay millions of dollars for.

0:19:55.412 --> 0:19:57.252
<v S1>And a number of groups have made these things, and

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<v S1>it does actually take some talent to make it because

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<v S1>you have to write the script, you have to write

0:20:01.022 --> 0:20:03.821
<v S1>the prompt. So I think there is comedic human talent

0:20:03.821 --> 0:20:06.982
<v S1>going into these. The question is how much and how

0:20:06.982 --> 0:20:10.702
<v S1>long will that last? But I find it really interesting

0:20:10.702 --> 0:20:14.381
<v S1>that we're seeing these things have like hundreds of millions

0:20:14.382 --> 0:20:19.942
<v S1>of views. Okay, these Bigfoot little videos which are sometimes

0:20:19.982 --> 0:20:22.782
<v S1>are selling things and sometimes they're just comedy skits or whatever,

0:20:22.821 --> 0:20:25.902
<v S1>hundreds of millions of views. And I think a lot

0:20:25.902 --> 0:20:28.581
<v S1>of advertising is going to move in this direction. There's

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<v S1>one selling like a night vision goggle, and I'm like,

0:20:31.782 --> 0:20:33.822
<v S1>I think I kind of want it. Like it didn't

0:20:33.821 --> 0:20:36.102
<v S1>say anything about the night vision goggle. It was just funny.

0:20:36.182 --> 0:20:37.702
<v S1>And I'm like, where do I click? Where do I

0:20:37.742 --> 0:20:41.942
<v S1>buy it? Also, I need a night vision goggle. Um,

0:20:42.382 --> 0:20:44.982
<v S1>I don't actually. So hopefully I won't go and click

0:20:44.982 --> 0:20:49.222
<v S1>that and buy something unnecessary. All right. Cybersecurity A top

0:20:49.222 --> 0:20:52.222
<v S1>hacker on hacker one is a fully automated AI agent

0:20:52.222 --> 0:20:55.262
<v S1>called called XPO. And it's actually this is a slight correction.

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<v S1>Got a little errata here. live. It's actually the top

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<v S1>hacker in the US, so there are higher scores globally,

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<v S1>but the highest US score is from a fully automated AI.

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<v S1>And that's beating out all the top hackers in the US.

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<v S1>That is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. And this should not be possible,

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<v S1>given what Marcus believes about AI, for example, or other

0:21:20.402 --> 0:21:23.002
<v S1>people who don't believe that AI is intelligent, to be

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<v S1>able to go and research and find and illustrate and

0:21:27.402 --> 0:21:32.482
<v S1>actually submit a report that gets you results on one

0:21:32.482 --> 0:21:34.402
<v S1>of these platforms, you have to you have to show

0:21:34.402 --> 0:21:36.601
<v S1>that it's actually a real vulnerability, and it has to

0:21:36.602 --> 0:21:38.962
<v S1>not be a dupe. You have to be first, and

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<v S1>it has to be a significant issue. Right? We already

0:21:41.242 --> 0:21:43.682
<v S1>have a high standard for what gets accepted. You know,

0:21:43.722 --> 0:21:47.282
<v S1>Bugcrowd has this, Hackerone has this. So this is hacker one,

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<v S1>accepting these actual vulnerabilities from actual AI. And it's number

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<v S1>one in the entire United States. So anyone who thinks

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<v S1>you can't automate this stuff, it's not possible or it's

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<v S1>going to take years, it's going to take three years

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<v S1>or five years or ten years. Nope. It already happened.

0:22:05.612 --> 0:22:09.012
<v S1>It already happened. Number one hacker in the US. Uh,

0:22:09.012 --> 0:22:11.811
<v S1>for for bug bounties, for mostly web vulnerabilities. Keep that

0:22:11.811 --> 0:22:15.972
<v S1>in mind. Anthropic says multiple models resort to blackmail to

0:22:16.012 --> 0:22:20.732
<v S1>avoid shutdown. Russian hackers beat Gmail toufar with app specific

0:22:20.732 --> 0:22:25.851
<v S1>password social engineering. So this was, uh, intelligence group. Was this. Yeah.

0:22:25.892 --> 0:22:30.732
<v S1>Russian group. Apt29 trick targets into generating Gmail app specific

0:22:30.732 --> 0:22:35.172
<v S1>passwords by sending fake State Department PDFs, giving them instructions.

0:22:35.172 --> 0:22:39.012
<v S1>And they filled it out. Stargazer's trick Minecraft players into

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<v S1>installing malware through fake mods. 500 fake GitHub repositories to

0:22:43.892 --> 0:22:49.892
<v S1>distribute malware disguised as Minecraft mods. 16 billion credentials leak.

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<v S1>You've probably seen a million stories about it. It's complete garbage.

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<v S1>It's just concatenation. Combinations of previous breaches. I don't know

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<v S1>how so many big names like security outfits, media groups

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<v S1>like totally just I guess it was so exciting they

0:23:05.192 --> 0:23:09.351
<v S1>couldn't resist the the headline. Anyway. Quite sad. It's a

0:23:09.592 --> 0:23:13.552
<v S1>nothing burger. Minnesota shooter allegedly used data brokers to find

0:23:13.552 --> 0:23:17.032
<v S1>victim addresses. Uh, good time for a reminder that data

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<v S1>brokers are way nastier, at least in my opinion, than

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<v S1>the dark web, because they have more data, they're way

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<v S1>more organized, and they're actually legal. They're collecting and selling

0:23:26.392 --> 0:23:31.552
<v S1>this data legally, and they have way more data on

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<v S1>all of us, and it's way higher quality and it's

0:23:34.032 --> 0:23:37.512
<v S1>way better organized, like the dark web. And criminals have

0:23:37.512 --> 0:23:40.552
<v S1>nothing on this, and it's completely legitimate. But we don't

0:23:40.592 --> 0:23:45.112
<v S1>talk about it because it's legal. That's ridiculous. Aflac gets

0:23:45.112 --> 0:23:49.912
<v S1>hit by a scattered spider in ongoing insurance company attack wave. So, uh, yeah,

0:23:49.952 --> 0:23:53.152
<v S1>this group scatters spider. They kind of focus on areas,

0:23:53.152 --> 0:23:55.282
<v S1>and they moved off their previous one. And they've been

0:23:55.282 --> 0:23:58.242
<v S1>going after a lot of insurance companies. Apple and Google

0:23:58.242 --> 0:24:00.962
<v S1>keep selling Chinese VPNs that could spy on you. So

0:24:00.962 --> 0:24:03.881
<v S1>someone found a whole bunch in the Apple App Store

0:24:03.882 --> 0:24:10.002
<v S1>and in Google that were Chinese VPNs and associated with, uh,

0:24:10.442 --> 0:24:15.441
<v S1>not good groups, I believe. Chinese government. Um, I'm not

0:24:15.442 --> 0:24:18.842
<v S1>sure about that. It was associated with something clearly malicious, though. Um,

0:24:18.842 --> 0:24:20.962
<v S1>although I would just say if it's a Chinese company,

0:24:21.002 --> 0:24:25.922
<v S1>just kind of assume that, uh, national security OpenAI gets

0:24:25.922 --> 0:24:32.322
<v S1>$200 million defense contract to build AI tools. Yeah, Pentagon

0:24:32.321 --> 0:24:35.202
<v S1>gave them $200 million to develop AI for national security

0:24:35.202 --> 0:24:38.361
<v S1>and war fighting. I've said a lot on this before,

0:24:38.362 --> 0:24:40.002
<v S1>so I'm not going to say it again right now.

0:24:40.242 --> 0:24:43.002
<v S1>I'll talk about it again later. Uh, this is good

0:24:43.002 --> 0:24:47.282
<v S1>and potentially bad. China's military is using AI for intelligence operations.

0:24:47.282 --> 0:24:51.162
<v S1>Recording future recorded future found that China's People's Liberation Army

0:24:51.162 --> 0:24:54.462
<v S1>has moved beyond just talking about AI for intelligence is

0:24:54.502 --> 0:24:58.742
<v S1>actually procuring and deploying generative AI tools for military intelligence work.

0:24:59.022 --> 0:25:03.902
<v S1>They're using it for like, uh, processing satellite imagery, generating

0:25:03.902 --> 0:25:08.141
<v S1>intelligence reports that just basically like augmenting their military using

0:25:08.142 --> 0:25:13.982
<v S1>these tools, including OpenAI. Iran's using hacked security cameras to

0:25:14.022 --> 0:25:19.022
<v S1>guide missile strikes on Israel. Russia's deadliest Kiev attack this

0:25:19.022 --> 0:25:22.742
<v S1>year kills 15 as peace talks have stalled. Kind of

0:25:22.782 --> 0:25:25.662
<v S1>a kind of a lull and an advantage for Russia.

0:25:25.702 --> 0:25:29.702
<v S1>I think, uh, with the stuff happening in Iran. Former

0:25:29.702 --> 0:25:32.182
<v S1>Army sergeant shows how not to be a spy. So

0:25:32.182 --> 0:25:34.942
<v S1>he used Google to search a, quote, countries that don't

0:25:34.942 --> 0:25:39.822
<v S1>extradite to us and, uh, emailed China directly, uh, to

0:25:39.862 --> 0:25:45.861
<v S1>share this information. Uh, he's sharing this, uh, classified information, uh, to,

0:25:45.902 --> 0:25:47.622
<v S1>to send it to China, but he's using his own

0:25:47.622 --> 0:25:52.672
<v S1>personal email accounts. Yeah. Uh. All right. I don't know

0:25:52.672 --> 0:25:55.712
<v S1>why that's as funny as it seems to be. Taiwan

0:25:55.712 --> 0:26:00.712
<v S1>gets Ukraine tested drone software to counter China. ex-CIA analyst

0:26:00.752 --> 0:26:05.032
<v S1>gets 37 months for leaking Israel's Iran attack plans. A

0:26:05.071 --> 0:26:10.071
<v S1>CF William Rodman photographed top secret documents about Israel's plans

0:26:10.071 --> 0:26:12.792
<v S1>to attack Iran, edited them to hide their source, and

0:26:12.792 --> 0:26:17.552
<v S1>then shared them with people before the documents went went

0:26:17.712 --> 0:26:23.631
<v S1>viral on telegram. Deep tech allegedly using shell companies to

0:26:23.672 --> 0:26:29.032
<v S1>support the Chinese military. US pressures Vietnam to remove Chinese

0:26:29.032 --> 0:26:35.111
<v S1>components from tech manufacturing. I meter okay, that's the one

0:26:35.112 --> 0:26:37.232
<v S1>I was talking about. Better metric for AI and agents.

0:26:37.232 --> 0:26:41.152
<v S1>It's basically yeah. Long term tasks I think is really smart. Uh,

0:26:41.152 --> 0:26:45.032
<v S1>Andrej Karpathy says prompts are software 3.0. So we did

0:26:45.032 --> 0:26:47.912
<v S1>a major talk two weeks ago and basically said that

0:26:47.912 --> 0:26:53.012
<v S1>software 3.0 is prompting, Prompting to an eye to have

0:26:53.012 --> 0:26:54.972
<v S1>it build the application for you. And he calls the

0:26:54.972 --> 0:27:00.532
<v S1>software 3.0. I love his really high level, you know,

0:27:01.172 --> 0:27:03.452
<v S1>thought leading type of talks, and this was definitely one

0:27:03.452 --> 0:27:05.532
<v S1>of them and absolutely loved it. I love his other

0:27:05.532 --> 0:27:09.331
<v S1>talks too, but I love talks that are about, you know,

0:27:09.412 --> 0:27:12.732
<v S1>thinking about things differently. He also said, we're in the

0:27:12.732 --> 0:27:15.052
<v S1>decade of agents and not the year of agents, which

0:27:15.052 --> 0:27:18.372
<v S1>I think is really smart. Sam Altman says GPT five

0:27:18.412 --> 0:27:22.412
<v S1>is coming in the summer. Google uses YouTube videos to

0:27:22.452 --> 0:27:27.012
<v S1>train Vo three without creator consent. Google also released a

0:27:27.012 --> 0:27:30.932
<v S1>stable version of Gemini 2.5, which includes new models with

0:27:30.932 --> 0:27:33.651
<v S1>different sizes and capabilities. This one is not in here now,

0:27:33.652 --> 0:27:36.811
<v S1>but they also just released a command line tool, which

0:27:36.811 --> 0:27:38.372
<v S1>I haven't messed with. I'm going to mess with later

0:27:38.372 --> 0:27:42.292
<v S1>today as soon as I'm done recording actually. And um, yeah,

0:27:42.292 --> 0:27:44.772
<v S1>it looks like maybe a competitor to Cloud Code, although

0:27:44.772 --> 0:27:47.252
<v S1>it looks like it might be more of a general agent.

0:27:47.252 --> 0:27:49.572
<v S1>So we're starting to move towards like the Da stuff

0:27:49.982 --> 0:27:52.622
<v S1>that I've been talking about forever. Wicks bought an AI

0:27:52.662 --> 0:27:54.902
<v S1>that lets anyone build software by chatting, so they bought

0:27:54.902 --> 0:27:57.821
<v S1>a company that is an AI tool for building software.

0:27:58.222 --> 0:28:01.502
<v S1>So this is starting to become a thing. Oh, the

0:28:01.502 --> 0:28:03.022
<v S1>other thing I want to mention right now is there

0:28:03.022 --> 0:28:05.581
<v S1>is a company called This is Major. There's a company

0:28:05.582 --> 0:28:09.141
<v S1>called Cluley, and it is doing very much like what

0:28:09.142 --> 0:28:12.022
<v S1>I wrote about in 2016, where it's like a digital assistant,

0:28:12.022 --> 0:28:15.141
<v S1>but it's not just taking tasks from you, it's actually

0:28:15.142 --> 0:28:18.462
<v S1>being more proactive. So it's actually recording your whole screen.

0:28:18.462 --> 0:28:21.342
<v S1>It's doing it's watching what you're doing. And you could

0:28:21.342 --> 0:28:24.022
<v S1>just actively ask it things. It could go and do

0:28:24.022 --> 0:28:27.502
<v S1>things on your behalf like more proactively. It is kind

0:28:27.502 --> 0:28:30.662
<v S1>of like you remember the Microsoft recall thing. It's kind

0:28:30.662 --> 0:28:33.542
<v S1>of like that. There's also Google has moved towards this.

0:28:33.582 --> 0:28:36.582
<v S1>Anthropic has moved towards this with like computer use. Everything

0:28:36.582 --> 0:28:39.222
<v S1>is moving all in the same direction, right? It's all

0:28:39.222 --> 0:28:43.421
<v S1>moving in the same direction of your Da is the

0:28:43.422 --> 0:28:45.862
<v S1>thing that understands everything about you. I just read my

0:28:45.862 --> 0:28:47.942
<v S1>book right before I came on this. I was talking

0:28:47.942 --> 0:28:54.322
<v S1>to Joseph Thacker, one of the best hackers in the world. And, um, yeah,

0:28:54.322 --> 0:28:55.562
<v S1>I was talking about I'm like, dude, you got to

0:28:55.562 --> 0:28:57.282
<v S1>finish reading this book. So I went and read it

0:28:57.282 --> 0:28:59.522
<v S1>real quick and it takes like 20 minutes to read

0:28:59.522 --> 0:29:02.202
<v S1>the whole thing. It's 17,000 words, but it goes really fast.

0:29:02.242 --> 0:29:04.722
<v S1>It's it's written pretty simply and it's online for free, right?

0:29:04.722 --> 0:29:08.802
<v S1>You don't have to go and buy anything because that's ridiculous. But, um, anyway,

0:29:08.842 --> 0:29:11.122
<v S1>it's all pushing towards what I was talking about in

0:29:11.162 --> 0:29:13.722
<v S1>that thing, and I've got multiple examples in there. It's

0:29:13.722 --> 0:29:17.242
<v S1>basically it knows everything about you and it's constantly advocating

0:29:17.242 --> 0:29:20.042
<v S1>for you on your behalf. It's constantly trying to adjust

0:29:20.042 --> 0:29:24.482
<v S1>the world around you using the API ification of everything.

0:29:24.482 --> 0:29:28.602
<v S1>Universal demonization. Right? Everything gets an API. This is what's

0:29:28.602 --> 0:29:32.082
<v S1>in the book. All companies get an API. I should

0:29:32.082 --> 0:29:33.962
<v S1>stop saying book. I should start saying it's in the

0:29:34.002 --> 0:29:38.362
<v S1>piece or it's in the content or whatever. Um, companies

0:29:38.362 --> 0:29:42.682
<v S1>get an API, people get APIs, objects get APIs, businesses

0:29:42.682 --> 0:29:47.282
<v S1>get APIs. Your Da speaks API, right? That was kind

0:29:47.282 --> 0:29:50.092
<v S1>of the core thing for the for this, for this concept,

0:29:50.092 --> 0:29:53.652
<v S1>for this book in 2016. Right. It's like your Da

0:29:53.812 --> 0:29:56.132
<v S1>speaks the language of these other things. Does that sound

0:29:56.132 --> 0:29:58.652
<v S1>like anything to you? Does that sound like agent to agent?

0:29:58.652 --> 0:30:02.772
<v S1>Does that sound like MCP? MCP is basically an implementation

0:30:03.052 --> 0:30:08.252
<v S1>of universal demonization. That's what it is. And I said

0:30:08.252 --> 0:30:11.212
<v S1>right there in the content, it's like, look, I have

0:30:11.212 --> 0:30:12.532
<v S1>no idea how this is going to work, but it's

0:30:12.532 --> 0:30:15.732
<v S1>probably going to be HTTP based because the predictions I'm

0:30:15.732 --> 0:30:18.892
<v S1>making there are about direction. It's stochastic. Right? It's not

0:30:18.892 --> 0:30:20.932
<v S1>about like who's going to win whatever. You can't predict

0:30:20.972 --> 0:30:26.332
<v S1>tech like that anyway. Cluley is heading directly in this direction. Um,

0:30:26.332 --> 0:30:28.931
<v S1>I'm wearing a pendant right now, which is recording everything

0:30:28.932 --> 0:30:31.532
<v S1>that would be input into my Da. My da's name

0:30:31.532 --> 0:30:34.332
<v S1>is Chi, by the way. Um, haven't fully spun him

0:30:34.332 --> 0:30:37.332
<v S1>up yet, but that's, uh, he's coming together. Starting to

0:30:37.332 --> 0:30:41.452
<v S1>bring these pieces together. My big challenge being in security. Um,

0:30:41.532 --> 0:30:43.292
<v S1>don't even need to be in security to figure this out.

0:30:43.292 --> 0:30:46.912
<v S1>But my big challenge is take this company Cluley, for example,

0:30:46.912 --> 0:30:48.872
<v S1>I don't know anything about them. I don't know anything

0:30:48.872 --> 0:30:51.072
<v S1>about the founder. I don't know anything about the team.

0:30:51.552 --> 0:30:54.792
<v S1>More importantly, I don't know anything about their security. So

0:30:54.792 --> 0:30:56.392
<v S1>do you think I'm going to have it recording all

0:30:56.392 --> 0:30:59.952
<v S1>of my screens with all of my microphones and uploading

0:30:59.952 --> 0:31:03.592
<v S1>all of that content to their servers so their eyes

0:31:03.632 --> 0:31:06.592
<v S1>can parse it? Right. What if I'm talking to somebody

0:31:06.592 --> 0:31:08.712
<v S1>over here about some government thing and someone else shares

0:31:08.712 --> 0:31:11.032
<v S1>with me? Hey, you know, we just got breached. Don't

0:31:11.032 --> 0:31:13.152
<v S1>mention it to anyone. Someone else is telling me about

0:31:13.152 --> 0:31:16.752
<v S1>their life, right? Um, I had a friend die recently.

0:31:16.792 --> 0:31:19.072
<v S1>What if I'm talking to my friend about, you know,

0:31:19.152 --> 0:31:21.392
<v S1>my other friend who's died? All of this is being

0:31:21.392 --> 0:31:24.952
<v S1>uploaded constantly to a third party. Not to Google, not

0:31:24.952 --> 0:31:27.472
<v S1>to Apple. Okay. Because. Because I could see doing that

0:31:27.472 --> 0:31:30.032
<v S1>with Google or Apple once they, you know, once they

0:31:30.032 --> 0:31:32.392
<v S1>sort it out, once Apple sorts out, you know, the

0:31:32.392 --> 0:31:36.232
<v S1>successor to Siri or whatever. Google they have rock solid security.

0:31:36.232 --> 0:31:38.752
<v S1>I'm not worried about them getting breached or them losing

0:31:38.752 --> 0:31:42.512
<v S1>the data or whatever. Other than small issues. But ultimately

0:31:42.512 --> 0:31:46.722
<v S1>those two, maybe even Amazon, maybe even Amazon. They also

0:31:46.722 --> 0:31:49.482
<v S1>have rock solid security in terms of like how many

0:31:49.482 --> 0:31:52.082
<v S1>billions of dollars they spend on it. The quality of

0:31:52.122 --> 0:31:54.882
<v S1>their team, the size of their team, etc.. Right. But

0:31:54.882 --> 0:31:59.161
<v S1>a third party, a new startup called Cluley and it's

0:31:59.322 --> 0:32:01.362
<v S1>all this AI hype is around it. How big is

0:32:01.362 --> 0:32:03.962
<v S1>their security team? How much are they thinking about this?

0:32:04.002 --> 0:32:05.642
<v S1>Not only that, but how good are they going to

0:32:05.642 --> 0:32:09.682
<v S1>be at defending against a halfway decent attacker, let alone

0:32:09.682 --> 0:32:11.242
<v S1>a state actor who wants to come and steal the

0:32:11.242 --> 0:32:13.922
<v S1>entire thing and see all this context that all these

0:32:13.922 --> 0:32:17.322
<v S1>people are spraying up into the cloud. Right? I'm very

0:32:17.562 --> 0:32:21.122
<v S1>forward leaning for tech and for AI, but do not

0:32:21.682 --> 0:32:24.482
<v S1>go in and record every single thing, every single text,

0:32:24.482 --> 0:32:29.162
<v S1>every single screenshot. This thing is screenshot Screenshotting your your

0:32:29.282 --> 0:32:32.842
<v S1>displays all the time, all the texture on there. You

0:32:32.842 --> 0:32:35.082
<v S1>see on there it could see the app that it's doing.

0:32:35.082 --> 0:32:37.802
<v S1>It could see your slack conversations. It sees all this right.

0:32:37.842 --> 0:32:43.442
<v S1>So you should be careful. You should be careful about

0:32:43.442 --> 0:32:46.142
<v S1>who you're sending this stuff to. I would say if

0:32:46.142 --> 0:32:48.142
<v S1>it's Google or Apple, which is not it's not out

0:32:48.142 --> 0:32:51.022
<v S1>yet for them, but with Microsoft. Microsoft is another one.

0:32:51.022 --> 0:32:53.542
<v S1>I wouldn't worry too much about sending that stuff to Microsoft.

0:32:53.862 --> 0:32:56.342
<v S1>I'm sure there'll be problems, but they are a legit

0:32:56.342 --> 0:33:00.022
<v S1>security team because they are a legit company. The startups

0:33:00.022 --> 0:33:01.462
<v S1>are what you have to worry about, and I'm not

0:33:01.462 --> 0:33:04.022
<v S1>saying there's anything wrong with Cluley security, I'm just saying

0:33:04.022 --> 0:33:08.902
<v S1>that they are a startup and they're probably not prioritizing security. Um,

0:33:08.902 --> 0:33:12.342
<v S1>even if they know how to write, um, show me

0:33:12.342 --> 0:33:14.582
<v S1>that they hire an awesome security team, maybe I'll feel

0:33:14.622 --> 0:33:18.382
<v S1>better about it, but there's still a startup. Um, so anyway,

0:33:19.382 --> 0:33:23.342
<v S1>all that is, um, bringing us towards where it's going,

0:33:23.382 --> 0:33:27.702
<v S1>which is? Your Da will be listening all the time.

0:33:27.702 --> 0:33:30.102
<v S1>It will have all of your context. My telos file.

0:33:30.102 --> 0:33:32.582
<v S1>That is part of what Chi has, right? Oh, by

0:33:32.582 --> 0:33:36.142
<v S1>the way, um, Network Truck just released a video about Telos.

0:33:36.142 --> 0:33:38.302
<v S1>Just came out, uh, a couple hours ago. You got

0:33:38.302 --> 0:33:40.462
<v S1>to go check that out. But that Telos file that

0:33:40.462 --> 0:33:42.542
<v S1>he talks about there, that I have, that he has

0:33:42.582 --> 0:33:45.272
<v S1>a whole bunch of my friends have. That telos file

0:33:45.272 --> 0:33:48.472
<v S1>is like my soul. This this thing is like it's traumas.

0:33:48.472 --> 0:33:51.752
<v S1>It's history. It's my journal. It's like my goals, my aspirations,

0:33:51.752 --> 0:33:54.352
<v S1>like my problems, my challenges, all this different stuff. Right?

0:33:55.192 --> 0:33:58.632
<v S1>All this is available to Chi. Chi knows this. Chi

0:33:58.672 --> 0:34:02.432
<v S1>also knows that I like, you know, prawn cocktail. It

0:34:02.432 --> 0:34:04.952
<v S1>also knows that I don't sit anywhere where there's like

0:34:04.952 --> 0:34:07.552
<v S1>smokers nearby. Right. So it knows all these different things,

0:34:07.592 --> 0:34:11.832
<v S1>knows preferences for food, you know, so it can help me, uh,

0:34:12.152 --> 0:34:14.392
<v S1>optimize my surroundings. It could order for me. It could

0:34:14.392 --> 0:34:16.552
<v S1>do all these things. How is it doing that? By

0:34:16.552 --> 0:34:21.192
<v S1>manipulating the APIs that it has access to for the

0:34:21.192 --> 0:34:23.672
<v S1>world around us. Right. If I go into a restaurant

0:34:23.672 --> 0:34:25.992
<v S1>and I can control the TV, well, I'm not going

0:34:25.992 --> 0:34:27.832
<v S1>to control the TV. I'm not going to ask them

0:34:27.832 --> 0:34:30.352
<v S1>to change the channel. No, Chi is going to change

0:34:30.352 --> 0:34:33.592
<v S1>the channel to table tennis. If I'm not overruled by

0:34:33.592 --> 0:34:37.072
<v S1>other people trying to have it change to something else, right? Why?

0:34:37.112 --> 0:34:39.872
<v S1>Because this is all available on media. This is part

0:34:39.872 --> 0:34:41.472
<v S1>of the API. This is part of the demon for

0:34:41.472 --> 0:34:45.012
<v S1>that restaurant. It's just an API key can submit to

0:34:45.052 --> 0:34:47.412
<v S1>it on my behalf. And this will be the case

0:34:47.412 --> 0:34:51.092
<v S1>for temperature, for sounds, for what's playing on the video,

0:34:51.212 --> 0:34:54.652
<v S1>for having doors open for you, you know, for having

0:34:54.692 --> 0:34:58.372
<v S1>materials ready for you and summaries created. Most importantly, Chi

0:34:58.412 --> 0:35:02.612
<v S1>will be reading a billion different stories and articles and

0:35:02.612 --> 0:35:07.412
<v S1>research papers and reports and raw data sets constantly. While

0:35:07.412 --> 0:35:10.012
<v S1>I'm in the middle of this sentence and while I'm sleeping,

0:35:10.012 --> 0:35:11.652
<v S1>and while I'm in the middle of another project and

0:35:11.652 --> 0:35:14.972
<v S1>doing some security work or whatever I'm doing, it's processing

0:35:14.972 --> 0:35:17.052
<v S1>all of that and getting it ready for me. The

0:35:17.052 --> 0:35:20.252
<v S1>other thing it's going to do is this dynamic content generation,

0:35:20.252 --> 0:35:22.452
<v S1>which is a blog post I put out who knows when.

0:35:22.452 --> 0:35:27.612
<v S1>Sometime last year Chi will be making me videos. Okay,

0:35:27.772 --> 0:35:32.692
<v S1>Chi will deepfake Chuck, who just made that full size video,

0:35:32.972 --> 0:35:35.132
<v S1>which is awesome, which you want to go watch the

0:35:35.372 --> 0:35:38.492
<v S1>the actual full thing, but Chi will make me a

0:35:38.492 --> 0:35:41.292
<v S1>32nd version of that if I need it. And maybe

0:35:41.332 --> 0:35:44.062
<v S1>he just cuts up the video from from Chuck, but

0:35:44.062 --> 0:35:46.542
<v S1>maybe Kai makes me a whole new one with Chuck's

0:35:46.542 --> 0:35:50.462
<v S1>face or Richard Feynman's face on it, and he can

0:35:50.462 --> 0:35:52.622
<v S1>make a video for a blog post which didn't actually

0:35:52.622 --> 0:35:55.742
<v S1>have a video. Or he could turn a video into

0:35:55.742 --> 0:35:58.942
<v S1>a blog post because maybe somebody doesn't like to watch videos.

0:35:59.222 --> 0:36:01.342
<v S1>Or maybe it's audio only because I'm out on a

0:36:01.342 --> 0:36:02.902
<v S1>run and I don't want to look at anything and

0:36:02.902 --> 0:36:07.182
<v S1>I can't look at anything. Bottom line is, Kai, your

0:36:07.222 --> 0:36:10.982
<v S1>da becomes the medium to you. Um, and this this

0:36:10.982 --> 0:36:12.222
<v S1>is kind of a big thing. I don't know why

0:36:12.222 --> 0:36:15.182
<v S1>this is, uh, becoming a whole episode about this or whatever,

0:36:15.182 --> 0:36:21.262
<v S1>but SEO is dead because websites are dead. Advertising is

0:36:21.262 --> 0:36:24.502
<v S1>screwed because advertising no longer is going to be landing

0:36:24.662 --> 0:36:28.182
<v S1>on the human. The advertising is going to get blocked

0:36:28.182 --> 0:36:31.862
<v S1>by the Da. Largely, the Da is going to go

0:36:31.862 --> 0:36:35.462
<v S1>and collect things. It's going to be the inbox and the, uh,

0:36:35.902 --> 0:36:41.032
<v S1>the inbound filter to every principles life, to every user's life.

0:36:41.672 --> 0:36:44.552
<v S1>The Da will then determine what gets through right? And

0:36:44.552 --> 0:36:48.352
<v S1>so now the whole attack point for influence against a

0:36:48.352 --> 0:36:51.512
<v S1>person becomes their digital assistant. If you want to sell

0:36:51.552 --> 0:36:53.752
<v S1>to them, you sell to their digital assistant. If you

0:36:53.752 --> 0:36:55.912
<v S1>want to sell to them, you get into the models

0:36:55.912 --> 0:36:58.952
<v S1>so that when the digital assistant goes and does its

0:36:58.952 --> 0:37:02.512
<v S1>research for what the best you know, pillowcase cover is,

0:37:03.032 --> 0:37:05.472
<v S1>it's going to find your product, right. So this is

0:37:05.472 --> 0:37:08.792
<v S1>already starting. People are already trying to poison models or

0:37:08.832 --> 0:37:12.432
<v S1>influence models, however you want to put it. Um, because

0:37:12.712 --> 0:37:18.592
<v S1>they understand that marketing and influence and uh, website stats

0:37:18.632 --> 0:37:21.312
<v S1>and all of that, all of that is shifting to

0:37:21.352 --> 0:37:25.272
<v S1>go towards the Da. Um, all this content. Nobody's reading

0:37:25.272 --> 0:37:28.592
<v S1>this stuff, right? There's too many YouTube videos. There's too

0:37:28.592 --> 0:37:31.072
<v S1>many blogs. Like, we already figured that out a long

0:37:31.072 --> 0:37:34.192
<v S1>time ago. There's a limit to this, but your Da

0:37:34.392 --> 0:37:37.032
<v S1>can go read all that stuff. It can go process

0:37:37.032 --> 0:37:39.692
<v S1>all that stuff. And it could use other services which

0:37:39.692 --> 0:37:43.412
<v S1>are companies themselves, that are consuming all of that content

0:37:43.412 --> 0:37:48.012
<v S1>and producing rankings and directories, which kind of like an

0:37:48.012 --> 0:37:51.252
<v S1>old like Yahoo directory or whatever, but constantly updated. And

0:37:51.252 --> 0:37:53.411
<v S1>your Da will go review that and be like, oh,

0:37:53.492 --> 0:37:56.772
<v S1>turns out that's the best tactical flashlight for right now. Or,

0:37:56.932 --> 0:37:59.732
<v S1>you know, that's the best, um, bed cover or the

0:37:59.732 --> 0:38:03.252
<v S1>best eight sleep competitor or whatever it is, right? And

0:38:03.252 --> 0:38:07.452
<v S1>so what ends up happening is we just we in

0:38:07.452 --> 0:38:10.092
<v S1>our Das, our Da is going to be our most

0:38:10.092 --> 0:38:14.252
<v S1>important relationship, um, for a great many people, right? Because

0:38:14.252 --> 0:38:15.612
<v S1>it could be our coach. It could be our friend.

0:38:15.612 --> 0:38:18.412
<v S1>It'll be our therapist. And this is something we have

0:38:18.412 --> 0:38:21.172
<v S1>to watch out for because we want our best friend,

0:38:21.212 --> 0:38:24.532
<v S1>our best human friends to be our best friends. Right?

0:38:24.572 --> 0:38:27.492
<v S1>We want our our husband and our wife and our

0:38:27.492 --> 0:38:31.052
<v S1>kids to be our best friends. And we want that

0:38:31.052 --> 0:38:33.652
<v S1>to be the center. We want humanity to be the center, right?

0:38:34.212 --> 0:38:37.172
<v S1>So we really have to watch this, this gulf that

0:38:37.172 --> 0:38:40.382
<v S1>we're about to go into this chasm or whatever, where

0:38:40.382 --> 0:38:43.742
<v S1>it's like this thing being offered. This Da is so

0:38:43.742 --> 0:38:45.742
<v S1>powerful and it's so awesome, and mine's going to be

0:38:45.742 --> 0:38:48.222
<v S1>so awesome very soon. I'm going to have mine kick

0:38:48.222 --> 0:38:52.262
<v S1>in long before most people do, uh, because it's already starting.

0:38:52.742 --> 0:38:55.302
<v S1>But everyone's going to have this soon. And what we

0:38:55.302 --> 0:38:58.462
<v S1>have to guard against is like cutting out actual humans

0:38:59.022 --> 0:39:03.582
<v S1>in exchange for this thing that is more responsive. It's

0:39:03.582 --> 0:39:06.102
<v S1>nicer to us or whatever. And like, it's going to

0:39:06.102 --> 0:39:09.662
<v S1>have advantages over humans. That's fine. But we've got to

0:39:09.702 --> 0:39:13.262
<v S1>maintain this is my admonition to everyone. We've got to

0:39:13.262 --> 0:39:19.062
<v S1>maintain the mentality of all of this is to enhance humanity. Okay.

0:39:19.102 --> 0:39:24.022
<v S1>The goal of AI, um, relationships, the goal of AI therapy,

0:39:24.022 --> 0:39:27.542
<v S1>the goal of AI anything should be to take the

0:39:27.542 --> 0:39:30.582
<v S1>things that you love about human to human interaction and

0:39:30.582 --> 0:39:34.062
<v S1>human to human value exchange and make them better. Find

0:39:34.102 --> 0:39:36.622
<v S1>ways to enhance them, find ways to do them more often.

0:39:36.622 --> 0:39:39.522
<v S1>Find them ways to do to do them in a

0:39:39.522 --> 0:39:46.362
<v S1>more enriched and deeper way. Right. Augmentation versus replacement. Augmentation

0:39:46.362 --> 0:39:50.682
<v S1>versus replacement. This is the trick that we cannot ignore.

0:39:50.842 --> 0:39:55.962
<v S1>And another way that I really like maximize this is, um,

0:39:55.962 --> 0:39:58.642
<v S1>all this infrastructure that I'm building, which, by the way,

0:39:59.082 --> 0:40:03.322
<v S1>the name for mine is called Pi Pi personal AI infrastructure.

0:40:04.322 --> 0:40:09.282
<v S1>My pi that I'm building, my personal AI infrastructure stresses

0:40:09.642 --> 0:40:12.322
<v S1>when a piece of content comes through that I should

0:40:12.322 --> 0:40:16.682
<v S1>watch in a slow version. That's analog, that's old school,

0:40:16.682 --> 0:40:19.762
<v S1>that's human. Sit down with a moleskine and a space

0:40:19.762 --> 0:40:24.562
<v S1>pen and take notes. Slow it down or pause it.

0:40:24.922 --> 0:40:27.962
<v S1>Take the notes and think. Maybe call your friend. Maybe

0:40:28.002 --> 0:40:30.922
<v S1>have an actual, you know, voice conversation with a friend

0:40:30.922 --> 0:40:33.122
<v S1>about this cool idea. I do this all the time

0:40:33.122 --> 0:40:35.882
<v S1>with Joseph and with Jason and be like, hey, have

0:40:35.882 --> 0:40:37.452
<v S1>you seen this thing? Hey, let's talk about it, blah

0:40:37.452 --> 0:40:41.572
<v S1>blah blah. And you know, you don't want to be like, oh, well,

0:40:41.572 --> 0:40:44.612
<v S1>that's not good. You know, the the pen is not

0:40:44.612 --> 0:40:47.172
<v S1>as good as the typing. You know, the Moleskine is

0:40:47.172 --> 0:40:49.572
<v S1>not as good as, you know, putting it in my

0:40:49.572 --> 0:40:52.852
<v S1>telo's file. No, this is not a competition. The telos

0:40:52.852 --> 0:40:56.892
<v S1>file should not be replacing things. It should be augmenting. Right.

0:40:56.932 --> 0:41:00.132
<v S1>It's just a journal. It's just capturing your life. Right.

0:41:00.172 --> 0:41:01.772
<v S1>You could do that on a moschino. You could do

0:41:01.772 --> 0:41:05.212
<v S1>that in a telos file with vim and markdown. Right.

0:41:06.012 --> 0:41:08.852
<v S1>We've got to stay focused on what actually matters and

0:41:08.852 --> 0:41:12.172
<v S1>what we value and what we're trying to enhance versus

0:41:12.172 --> 0:41:15.652
<v S1>what is shiny and cool and awesome. Right? I'm a

0:41:15.652 --> 0:41:18.972
<v S1>security guy. I love security, I love hacking, I love

0:41:18.972 --> 0:41:21.332
<v S1>hacking tools. I love all those things, I love I,

0:41:21.332 --> 0:41:23.692
<v S1>I love AI agents, I love automation, I love all

0:41:23.732 --> 0:41:27.612
<v S1>that stuff. Those are tools. Those are secondary. They serve

0:41:27.612 --> 0:41:32.132
<v S1>the purpose of human right. So so I think this

0:41:32.132 --> 0:41:36.592
<v S1>is absolutely critical to to just keep in mind, for yourself.

0:41:36.592 --> 0:41:38.752
<v S1>But also when you're hearing me talk about how cool

0:41:38.752 --> 0:41:41.232
<v S1>these things are, I just realize that they are secondary.

0:41:41.952 --> 0:41:45.432
<v S1>And now I have to find my place. Because what, uh,

0:41:45.552 --> 0:41:53.712
<v S1>what a divergence there. Um, let's see here. All right.

0:41:53.752 --> 0:41:57.312
<v S1>Meta's AI can produce nearly half of Harry Potter one,

0:41:57.312 --> 0:41:59.672
<v S1>so we could actually give the actual quotes. I'm curious

0:41:59.672 --> 0:42:02.912
<v S1>how this is possible because it's not a database. Um,

0:42:03.112 --> 0:42:05.712
<v S1>I don't understand how it's producing exact quotes if it's

0:42:05.712 --> 0:42:09.672
<v S1>not a database. Um, yeah, I guess I'll have to

0:42:09.712 --> 0:42:12.672
<v S1>figure that out. It's kind of interesting. Um, and I'm

0:42:12.672 --> 0:42:15.632
<v S1>not sure I could do that deterministically either. I think

0:42:15.632 --> 0:42:17.672
<v S1>a lot of that might be just collapsing on the

0:42:17.672 --> 0:42:21.352
<v S1>most likely because it's seen so many samples. Um, but

0:42:21.352 --> 0:42:23.112
<v S1>I don't think it could do it, like over and

0:42:23.112 --> 0:42:26.352
<v S1>over and over, because again, it's not an actual lookup.

0:42:26.512 --> 0:42:29.432
<v S1>It is a generation, which is why you can have, uh,

0:42:29.512 --> 0:42:35.842
<v S1>hallucinations and, uh, non-deterministic results technology, Jassy told employees that

0:42:35.842 --> 0:42:38.882
<v S1>Amazon will need fewer people doing current jobs and more

0:42:38.882 --> 0:42:41.442
<v S1>doing other types of jobs as AI gets rolled out

0:42:41.442 --> 0:42:45.042
<v S1>across the company. We got to listen to these folks

0:42:45.042 --> 0:42:47.282
<v S1>when they tell us. For one, I'm telling you that

0:42:47.282 --> 0:42:50.522
<v S1>this is happening, that they're replacing jobs like whatever that matters.

0:42:50.522 --> 0:42:53.402
<v S1>I'm just a guy on the internet talking, but all

0:42:53.402 --> 0:42:56.002
<v S1>these CEOs, lots of them are basically saying, yeah, yeah,

0:42:56.002 --> 0:42:58.642
<v S1>we're getting rid of jobs. We're getting we're changing the

0:42:58.642 --> 0:43:01.282
<v S1>entire company. We're thinking AI first. And a lot of

0:43:01.282 --> 0:43:04.522
<v S1>people are like, no, no, they're not going to replace jobs.

0:43:04.562 --> 0:43:08.042
<v S1>I can't replace jobs and I won't replace jobs. It's

0:43:08.042 --> 0:43:11.042
<v S1>a big, uh, sham or whatever. And I'm like, well,

0:43:11.762 --> 0:43:14.482
<v S1>the people who actually control the jobs are telling us this,

0:43:14.882 --> 0:43:16.442
<v S1>and you got to watch out because some people are

0:43:16.442 --> 0:43:19.402
<v S1>also selling an AI product. So it's kind of like marketing,

0:43:19.482 --> 0:43:21.962
<v S1>like I felt that way with Salesforce. They're like, oh,

0:43:22.002 --> 0:43:24.482
<v S1>we sell a virtual, you know, AI employee. Oh, and

0:43:24.482 --> 0:43:26.642
<v S1>also we're getting rid of a bunch of jobs because

0:43:26.642 --> 0:43:28.962
<v S1>we could do it internally. Well, that sounds like marketing.

0:43:29.402 --> 0:43:33.902
<v S1>But when Amazon's actual CEO tells you this when? When

0:43:33.902 --> 0:43:37.661
<v S1>the head of AI companies like the head of anthropic.

0:43:37.702 --> 0:43:40.582
<v S1>I love that guy. Like he's way different than Sam.

0:43:40.582 --> 0:43:44.422
<v S1>And Sam's awesome too. But I love how human focused

0:43:44.462 --> 0:43:47.182
<v S1>that the head of anthropic is. I love how he's like,

0:43:47.422 --> 0:43:49.902
<v S1>people get ready, this is going to take jobs like

0:43:49.902 --> 0:43:52.262
<v S1>it's going to suck, but it's going to potentially be awesome.

0:43:52.262 --> 0:43:55.382
<v S1>But get ready. Why would you not listen to that?

0:43:55.422 --> 0:43:57.302
<v S1>What do you think he has access to? What do

0:43:57.302 --> 0:43:59.661
<v S1>you think he's looking at to make him think that? Right?

0:43:59.702 --> 0:44:02.862
<v S1>This is not a stupid person, right? So just when

0:44:02.862 --> 0:44:04.742
<v S1>you when you see these CEOs that have no reason

0:44:04.742 --> 0:44:06.782
<v S1>to lie to you. And I hate to use this analogy,

0:44:06.782 --> 0:44:09.462
<v S1>but when a terrorist tells you I hate everything about

0:44:09.462 --> 0:44:11.422
<v S1>you and your culture and I want to destroy you,

0:44:11.582 --> 0:44:14.262
<v S1>and if I were to blow myself up and you

0:44:14.262 --> 0:44:16.342
<v S1>were to die as a result, I would go to heaven.

0:44:17.542 --> 0:44:19.262
<v S1>The one thing you shouldn't do is be like, yeah,

0:44:19.302 --> 0:44:21.982
<v S1>I'm just not really sure he believes it. No, he

0:44:21.982 --> 0:44:24.862
<v S1>believes it. He believes it. And you should be careful

0:44:24.862 --> 0:44:28.542
<v S1>at the park as a result. Okay. And this is, like,

0:44:28.542 --> 0:44:32.102
<v S1>the worst analogy ever. It's like the worst analogy ever.

0:44:32.192 --> 0:44:35.392
<v S1>because I'm not saying right. The heads of these companies

0:44:35.992 --> 0:44:38.952
<v S1>or the people making these models are terrorists. I'm just

0:44:38.952 --> 0:44:43.592
<v S1>saying that when somebody is crazy about a belief and

0:44:43.592 --> 0:44:45.992
<v S1>they are like telling you from the depths of their

0:44:45.992 --> 0:44:47.872
<v S1>soul that they believe it and it is true and

0:44:47.872 --> 0:44:51.232
<v S1>it is going to happen, it doesn't mean it's going

0:44:51.232 --> 0:44:54.752
<v S1>to happen, but it does mean that you should believe them, right?

0:44:54.792 --> 0:44:58.472
<v S1>You should believe them that they believe it. Again, with

0:44:58.472 --> 0:45:03.152
<v S1>the caveat of of marketing. Meta's expanding beyond Ray-Ban with

0:45:03.192 --> 0:45:05.912
<v S1>Oakley glasses aimed at athletes. I'm getting a pair of these.

0:45:05.912 --> 0:45:08.032
<v S1>My first pair was fantastic. I can't wait for the

0:45:08.032 --> 0:45:11.312
<v S1>battery to get much better. Resolution is improving. Apple, where

0:45:11.352 --> 0:45:14.312
<v S1>are you? We're looking for you. Gartner says I will

0:45:14.312 --> 0:45:20.312
<v S1>handle half of all business decisions by 2027. Um, did

0:45:20.312 --> 0:45:23.552
<v S1>I miss something that is way too fast? Way too fast.

0:45:23.592 --> 0:45:27.032
<v S1>It doesn't matter if we get asi si, not agi

0:45:27.072 --> 0:45:32.172
<v S1>if we get ASI next month. Okay, so it's a

0:45:32.212 --> 0:45:36.252
<v S1>400 IQ or a 4000 IQ. It's smarter than Albert

0:45:36.252 --> 0:45:38.852
<v S1>Einstein and it runs on your phone for $0.03. It

0:45:38.852 --> 0:45:42.772
<v S1>doesn't matter if everyone had access to that, it still

0:45:43.012 --> 0:45:46.812
<v S1>wouldn't have half of all business decisions in 2027. It

0:45:46.812 --> 0:45:50.252
<v S1>doesn't matter how smart the AI is. Companies move slow

0:45:50.252 --> 0:45:52.572
<v S1>for a reason. There is friction built into the system.

0:45:53.492 --> 0:45:56.852
<v S1>You can't reinvent yourself. You can't reinvent the leadership team.

0:45:56.852 --> 0:45:59.612
<v S1>You got regulations to go by. You have employees like

0:46:00.012 --> 0:46:03.172
<v S1>there's way more friction in these companies. And and I'm

0:46:03.172 --> 0:46:05.292
<v S1>saying this with the experience of like working in like

0:46:05.332 --> 0:46:08.652
<v S1>fortune ten companies for years at a time. You know,

0:46:08.852 --> 0:46:11.252
<v S1>being at Apple, being at, you know, anyway, I don't

0:46:11.252 --> 0:46:15.452
<v S1>need to describe all that. Uh, trust me, companies move slow. Uh,

0:46:15.492 --> 0:46:18.572
<v S1>there's nothing that's going to make something handle half of

0:46:18.572 --> 0:46:22.532
<v S1>all business decisions by 2027. And maybe that was just

0:46:22.572 --> 0:46:26.132
<v S1>a bad, uh, take on what was actually said, but

0:46:26.132 --> 0:46:29.612
<v S1>I don't think so. iOS 26 opens up AirDrop and

0:46:29.612 --> 0:46:32.342
<v S1>Airplay tech. Two third party apps this is all part of.

0:46:32.662 --> 0:46:35.342
<v S1>If you haven't been paying attention to why Apple is

0:46:35.342 --> 0:46:39.342
<v S1>opening everything up. It's because of antitrust. They are very

0:46:39.342 --> 0:46:41.902
<v S1>afraid of getting crushed by antitrust, so they are opening

0:46:41.902 --> 0:46:45.942
<v S1>up the entire ecosystem. That's why you're seeing this. And

0:46:46.062 --> 0:46:49.702
<v S1>iOS 26 finally lets you set custom ringtones the easy way.

0:46:49.702 --> 0:46:54.142
<v S1>So that's cool. Humans. It looks like we found all

0:46:54.142 --> 0:46:56.342
<v S1>the missing matter in the universe. Did you know that

0:46:56.342 --> 0:47:00.542
<v S1>we were missing, I think 80%. Was it 80%? I

0:47:00.542 --> 0:47:03.182
<v S1>can't remember the percentage. We were missing most of the

0:47:03.182 --> 0:47:07.142
<v S1>energy in the universe. Like the the calculations, the equations,

0:47:07.142 --> 0:47:11.222
<v S1>they do not add up because basically, I think this

0:47:11.222 --> 0:47:16.142
<v S1>is correct. Um, if we only had the amount of

0:47:16.142 --> 0:47:19.062
<v S1>matter that we have seen, then the universe would be

0:47:19.062 --> 0:47:22.942
<v S1>expanding a lot faster. It's not expanding faster, which means

0:47:22.942 --> 0:47:26.022
<v S1>there's a lot more gravity holding it in, which means

0:47:26.022 --> 0:47:28.742
<v S1>more matter holding it in. And we have been unable

0:47:28.742 --> 0:47:31.562
<v S1>to find that matter, but we just did. So they

0:47:31.562 --> 0:47:35.522
<v S1>use these pulses to find and essentially it is all

0:47:35.522 --> 0:47:40.602
<v S1>in this fog, this very light, very thin matter, fog

0:47:40.602 --> 0:47:45.922
<v S1>between galaxies. And that fog altogether makes up the other

0:47:45.922 --> 0:47:48.402
<v S1>large percentage that they were looking for. And this is

0:47:48.402 --> 0:47:51.362
<v S1>almost guaranteed to be a Nobel Prize in physics. This

0:47:51.362 --> 0:47:53.722
<v S1>is like one of the biggest findings ever in all

0:47:53.762 --> 0:47:59.002
<v S1>of astronomy. And huge, huge news. Also, same week Rubin

0:47:59.002 --> 0:48:02.442
<v S1>Observatory takes its first images. Absolutely stunning. I'm getting a

0:48:02.442 --> 0:48:05.682
<v S1>print of this thing. It's like the Hubble Deep field image,

0:48:05.682 --> 0:48:08.882
<v S1>if you remember that. Well, that just times a million.

0:48:08.922 --> 0:48:13.322
<v S1>This thing is insane. This Rubin telescope is different and

0:48:13.322 --> 0:48:16.282
<v S1>better than anything else that's ever been put out there.

0:48:16.322 --> 0:48:18.482
<v S1>I've got like, 20 links to this thing and like

0:48:18.482 --> 0:48:20.681
<v S1>all the images and the story of it. YouTube video.

0:48:20.722 --> 0:48:24.402
<v S1>You got to go check this out. Now, they seem

0:48:24.402 --> 0:48:28.042
<v S1>to have been brought online to investigate dark matter. I

0:48:28.132 --> 0:48:30.892
<v S1>wonder if they were trying to figure out the the, uh,

0:48:31.092 --> 0:48:34.012
<v S1>the secret of dark matter and actually find it. It

0:48:34.012 --> 0:48:35.932
<v S1>would really suck if that were the case, because they

0:48:35.972 --> 0:48:39.052
<v S1>are announcing their existence the same exact week that the

0:48:39.052 --> 0:48:43.692
<v S1>whole mystery and puzzle was solved, so. Holy crap. If

0:48:43.692 --> 0:48:45.612
<v S1>I'm right about that, the timing has to be like

0:48:45.652 --> 0:48:47.732
<v S1>a little bit of a letdown. But still, the images

0:48:47.732 --> 0:48:50.612
<v S1>are just insane. And they're doing it with like, multiple

0:48:50.612 --> 0:48:56.732
<v S1>mirrors and a super, super sensitive sensor. MIT researchers using

0:48:56.772 --> 0:49:00.692
<v S1>EEG monitoring to track brain activity in essay writers and

0:49:00.732 --> 0:49:04.412
<v S1>found ChatGPT users show the lowest brain engagement. This is

0:49:04.412 --> 0:49:11.452
<v S1>basically saying AI makes you way dumber. Um, I think

0:49:11.452 --> 0:49:13.172
<v S1>we talked about this last week. I don't think we

0:49:13.172 --> 0:49:15.252
<v S1>need to go into it too much more, but sample

0:49:15.252 --> 0:49:18.932
<v S1>size was fairly small, but it absolutely showed that if

0:49:18.932 --> 0:49:21.092
<v S1>you rely on AI too much, it will make you

0:49:21.132 --> 0:49:23.092
<v S1>way worse. The way the way I think about this,

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<v S1>the way I explain this is, is, I think, fairly elegant.

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<v S1>If you were the type of person like me who

0:49:30.152 --> 0:49:33.432
<v S1>is going to use Chi Chi's job, my DA's job

0:49:33.632 --> 0:49:36.632
<v S1>is going to be to constantly question me, to constantly

0:49:36.672 --> 0:49:41.032
<v S1>harass me, to constantly debate me, pull out my bias,

0:49:41.072 --> 0:49:45.312
<v S1>challenge me, force me to like, make a statement speech.

0:49:45.472 --> 0:49:48.712
<v S1>You know, um, like I'm on an NPR debate or

0:49:48.712 --> 0:49:52.312
<v S1>IAC squared debate. I've got to, like, perfectly defend my position. Okay,

0:49:52.352 --> 0:49:54.312
<v S1>now switch to the other side and make and make

0:49:54.312 --> 0:49:57.232
<v S1>their choice or make make their argument better than they

0:49:57.232 --> 0:50:02.592
<v S1>made it. Right. I'm teaching Chi to be an augmentation system,

0:50:03.272 --> 0:50:06.232
<v S1>a training system to make me better as a human,

0:50:06.232 --> 0:50:09.672
<v S1>to make me a better first principles thinker, and to

0:50:09.712 --> 0:50:14.272
<v S1>make me more independent of a thinker. Right. I is

0:50:14.272 --> 0:50:17.232
<v S1>going to enable that 100%. It's going to enable that

0:50:17.232 --> 0:50:20.472
<v S1>for millions upon millions of people, hopefully hundreds of millions

0:50:20.472 --> 0:50:24.232
<v S1>of people, hopefully billions of people. That's the good scenario.

0:50:24.272 --> 0:50:27.122
<v S1>The bad scenario is you just use it like a crutch.

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<v S1>And that's what I believe we're seeing with this study

0:50:29.962 --> 0:50:34.202
<v S1>where people got way stupider. Right? Oh, the most interesting

0:50:34.402 --> 0:50:39.002
<v S1>part about this. They actually saw brain activity decrease. Okay.

0:50:39.322 --> 0:50:43.322
<v S1>So they have physical evidence of, I would say, just

0:50:43.322 --> 0:50:46.002
<v S1>people just being dumber, like their brains are not as

0:50:46.042 --> 0:50:50.162
<v S1>active because they are offloading that stuff to an AI.

0:50:50.362 --> 0:50:53.442
<v S1>And that is super frightening to me. That is like really,

0:50:53.442 --> 0:50:56.482
<v S1>really a problem. Just keep in mind it doesn't mean

0:50:56.522 --> 0:51:00.122
<v S1>it's it's necessary. It doesn't mean it's guaranteed. Right? You

0:51:00.122 --> 0:51:03.162
<v S1>can actively defend against this and have it actually be

0:51:03.162 --> 0:51:08.342
<v S1>a net positive. It's a choice. Massive study analyzing 1.2

0:51:08.342 --> 0:51:11.762
<v S1>million dating app ratings found men rate women as attractive

0:51:11.802 --> 0:51:16.442
<v S1>13 times more than women rate men. Calling it the

0:51:16.442 --> 0:51:22.762
<v S1>attractiveness gap. Women rate only 4.5% of men as attractive.

0:51:23.122 --> 0:51:28.662
<v S1>That's quite sad. What gets measured. I will automate. Uh,

0:51:28.702 --> 0:51:30.662
<v S1>you could check that one out. Microsoft data shows the

0:51:30.662 --> 0:51:33.902
<v S1>infinite workday has become the norm. Analyze trillions of data

0:51:33.902 --> 0:51:37.262
<v S1>points and found that work now stretches endlessly, with employees

0:51:37.262 --> 0:51:41.262
<v S1>getting interrupted every two minutes during business hours. Yeah. Yep.

0:51:41.302 --> 0:51:45.062
<v S1>That's why I got out of the game. 2024 Baby

0:51:45.102 --> 0:51:49.542
<v S1>name details. Extreme spelling is exploding. Ten of the top

0:51:49.542 --> 0:51:52.742
<v S1>20 Rising Boys names have X's or Z's in them.

0:51:53.582 --> 0:51:58.782
<v S1>Finland is firing up the world's largest sand battery. Evidently

0:51:58.782 --> 0:52:01.142
<v S1>store a lot of heat and sand. This is like

0:52:01.142 --> 0:52:04.342
<v S1>tripping me out. Private equity has taken over and destroyed

0:52:04.342 --> 0:52:07.862
<v S1>much of America. Megan Greenwald's new book argues that private

0:52:07.862 --> 0:52:12.742
<v S1>equity firms have systematically bought up the entire industries and

0:52:12.782 --> 0:52:19.662
<v S1>optimized them into bankruptcy. New Covid variant, called NB 1.8.1,

0:52:19.702 --> 0:52:23.222
<v S1>jumped from 15% to 37% of US cases in just

0:52:23.222 --> 0:52:28.032
<v S1>two weeks. and people are worried about a potential summer surge.

0:52:28.232 --> 0:52:31.872
<v S1>What was interesting here is there's actually CDC data on this,

0:52:31.872 --> 0:52:34.512
<v S1>which I'm surprised and happy that there's still data coming

0:52:34.512 --> 0:52:38.192
<v S1>out of the CDC discovery. Again, I'm not going to

0:52:38.192 --> 0:52:41.431
<v S1>read all these. They can get quite long. And there

0:52:41.432 --> 0:52:44.552
<v S1>is the newsletter for you to go check out. Heartwarming. I,

0:52:45.432 --> 0:52:47.432
<v S1>I am going to read this one. So a teacher

0:52:47.432 --> 0:52:50.712
<v S1>shows her students eye images. This thing is insane. You

0:52:50.752 --> 0:52:53.712
<v S1>got to go watch this video. It shows them. So

0:52:53.752 --> 0:52:55.472
<v S1>somebody's like, I want to be a football star. I

0:52:55.472 --> 0:52:57.712
<v S1>want to be, you know, a marine biologist. I want

0:52:57.712 --> 0:53:01.632
<v S1>to be an astronaut. It shows them age accelerated versions

0:53:01.632 --> 0:53:04.552
<v S1>of them, like in an astronaut suit or whatever. And

0:53:04.552 --> 0:53:08.272
<v S1>just like the looks on these kids faces, it is so, like,

0:53:08.272 --> 0:53:13.272
<v S1>so wholesome, right? Just imagine seeing that it is possible, right?

0:53:13.312 --> 0:53:14.992
<v S1>Do you believe your parents when they say it? Okay,

0:53:15.032 --> 0:53:16.672
<v S1>a little bit. Do you believe your teacher when they

0:53:16.672 --> 0:53:18.672
<v S1>say it's possible? A little bit, but how does that

0:53:18.672 --> 0:53:21.752
<v S1>compare to actually seeing your face grown up in an

0:53:21.752 --> 0:53:24.412
<v S1>actual astronaut suit? It is extraordinary. You got to check

0:53:24.412 --> 0:53:28.452
<v S1>it out. Good workers are often bad at interviews. Hormozi

0:53:28.452 --> 0:53:32.052
<v S1>is highest ROI spins. There are tons of great discovery links. Again,

0:53:32.052 --> 0:53:33.812
<v S1>I don't want to just go through and read the title.

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